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So this is not like a mock because are not guessing where players end up, we are just listing the top 11 players. So if players a b d f g when our sixth pick comes, we j ust select player c because they are earliest on the big board.


Here is my big board (subject to change)
Ansthony Davis
Thomas Robinson
Beal
lillard
Drummond
MKG
Waiters
Sulinger
Meyers leonard
Barns
Rivers

Honerble mention-aren't moultire, lamb, Ross
 
Mine is

Davis
Robinson
Drummond
Barnes
Lillard
Beal
Ross
MKG
Moultrie
PJIII
Rivers
 
So far a lot of love for a Syracuse player and an American born white center. Interesting to see if that trend continues. Also where MKG falls on peoples draft boards. So far high, medium and low on the first three.

This is a fun thread. Always great to see how different fans rank different players
 
1. Anthony Davis
2. Bradley Beal
3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Thomas Robinson
5. Damian Lillard
6. Jared Sullinger
7. John Henson
8. Dion Waiters
9. Draymond Green
10. Royce White
11. Tyler Zeller

No Andre Drummond or Harrison Barns in my top 11.
 
1. Anthony Davis
2. Thomas Robinson
3. MKG
4 .Bradley Beal
5. Damian Lillard
6. Jared Sullinger
7. John Henson
8. Dion Waiters
9. Drummond
10. Royce White
11. Tyler Zeller
 
So far a lot of love for a Syracuse player and an American born white center. Interesting to see if that trend continues. Also where MKG falls on peoples draft boards. So far high, medium and low on the first three.

This is a fun thread. Always great to see how different fans rank different players

That always seems to happen as guys get mentioned about us. Same way everyone began nutting about Dragic, all seemingly at the same time. If it is mentioned we are high on Moultrie, he'll show up more and more.
 
That always seems to happen as guys get mentioned about us. Same way everyone began nutting about Dragic, all seemingly at the same time. If it is mentioned we are high on Moultrie, he'll show up more and more.

I really hope we are high on Moultrie. personally
 
1. Anthony Davis
2. Thomas Robinson
3. Bradley Beal
4. Damian Lillard
5. Harrison Barnes
6. MKG
7. Andre Drummond
8. Terrence Jones
9. Dion Waiters
10. Austin Rivers
 
1 Robinson - Will be the best player in 5 years, a team will be able to run their offense through him
2 Davis - He won't be as good offensively as Robinson but better defensively
3 Rivers - He has all the intangibles like toughness and heart to go along with top level skills
4 Lillard - He is the prototypical PG in the new NBA. Good quickness and good outside shooter
5 Barnes - He will be solid on both sides of the court, he will be a good 2nd or 3rd option
6 Beal - Really good form on his shot but didn't get top level results last year. Don't think he can create as well as Rivers
7 MKG - Defensive stud but will be lacking in offense so that will hold him back, I just really see him becoming a Gerald Wallace type player and will excel on a team with shooters
8 PJIII - I think he is starting to get the fact that he needs to be more aggressive, he has crazy size and athletic ability and he will come around mentally
9. Jeff Taylor - He is a guy who has gotten better every year and will continue to get better. Good shooter and athlete that will play even better in the NBA
10. Royce White - He is the somewhat undersized PF from this class that will do the dirty work and has good bball IQ. Maybe borderline all-star level but a good player to have that does a lot of things good but not really great at anything
 
-Anthony Davis
-Thomas Robinson
-Bradley Beal
-MKG
-Andre Drummond
-Harrison Barnes
-Kendall Marshall
-Damian Lillard
-Jared Sullinger
-Meyers Leonard
-Perry Jones lll
-Terrence Jones
-John Henson
-Austin Rivers
-Tyler Zeller
 
Interesting that there are many different versions.

-Anthony Davis (unanimous)
-Thomas Robinson (like his energy)
-MKG (like his leadership and hope the rest will develop)
-Andre Drummond (size matters)
-Damian Lillard (best PG and scorer in one package)
-Bradley Beal (not a believer yet)
-Perry Jones lll (based on up side)
-Austin Rivers (can he play the team game?)
-Harrison Barnes (reminds me of Martell too much)
-Kendall Marshall (love his passing, not convinced he can play D)
-Meyers Leonard (strong and athletic with touch, could he be a success)
-Moultrie
-White
 
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Lillard as the 4th or 5th best player in this draft?

lol, you guys are insane.....

"This time we got him, we got our future franchise PG!!!"


"Oh shit...."
 
Lillard as the 4th or 5th best player in this draft?

lol, you guys are insane.....

"This time we got him, we got our future franchise PG!!!"


"Oh shit...."

Back it up. Lead the nation in scoring, top 5 in fouls drawn, 41% for threes, NBA body, 24.5 pts on 15.5 attempts (very efficient). Show me who belongs above him that has numbers like that.
 
1) Thomas Robinson (Kansas players seemingly are always at least serviceable in the NBA, polished, T-Rob has a good frame, polished game, rebounds, works hard - look what he did vs. Kentucky)
2) Anthony Davis (Think he is somewhat overrated. Great defender, not sure I trust someone with a unibrow though.)
3) Andre Drummond (Big, athletic, talented. Needs to work hard, but no matter what his defense and size will always be there, unlike thabeet, doesn't have a horrendous frame)
4) Barnes (Least bust potential in the draft IMO, solid #3 option, maybe #2. Isn't overly athletic, doesn't wow you, but he can certainly shoot. Also, not a great dribbler and not aggressive enough - and not sure he realizes that.)
5) Lillard (Truthfully, I probably could have put him higher, just because of what I've been hearing from reports - but I'd need to see it first hand first. Talented scorer, elite first step, great athleticism, great court vision ***supposedly***)
6) MKG (Jack of all trades, solid on D, not so sure I believe that he is the next greatest wing defender or anything as I believe Davis really helped that team cover some major defensive flaws, has a weird hitch in his shot, but has heart AND talent, something that cannot be taught. He will be alright. Wes Matthews has heart, but not the talent this guy possesses. Could be a special player if he ever fixes that J.)
7) Ross (great size, length, athleticism, smart with the ball, can create for himself)
8) Beal (Didn't shoot overly well, but really came on at the end of the year. Honestly, he could be much higher, but it really depends on what a team is looking for. If you need an all around SG, this is probably your guy. If you need an elite scorer Ross, Waiters, Rivers are probably better at pure scoring ability - being able to get inside as well as shoot midrange and three.)
9) Perry Jones (Sounds like he understands he needs to be more aggressive, not sure how I feel about him thinking he needs to play similar to KD, but if the shot is there, would be a VERY interesting player to have on your team. Athleticism for days.)
10) Sullinger (Polished post game. Big body. Slow. Not overly athletic. Smart.)
11) Waiters (This could really go to about 4 players, Waiters, Zeller, Leonard, Terrence Jones, Marshall, Moultrie - Went with Waiters because although he is a Syracuse guy *beware* I watched a few of his games and the dude can flat out BALL with the rock. Probably the best pure scorer. Seems to know people think he has attitude issues, but whatever. Jones would probably be second at this spot for me, with Marshall last - because he is so unathletic and won't be able to defend.
 
Back it up. Lead the nation in scoring, top 5 in fouls drawn, 41% for threes, NBA body, 24.5 pts on 15.5 attempts (very efficient). Show me who belongs above him that has numbers like that.

Honestly, he played in the Big Sky, but him opting to play in the combine and still torching people shows me that it wasn't just the competition and that he was, in fact, very talented despite the league he played in.
 
Back it up. Lead the nation in scoring, top 5 in fouls drawn, 41% for threes, NBA body, 24.5 pts on 15.5 attempts (very efficient). Show me who belongs above him that has numbers like that.

All those numbers against the likes of basketball powerhouses like Sacramento State, Eastern Washington, Montana and Portland State....

How about these numbers:

4-17/3-10 3pt 14pts 3 boards 3 assists in loss to Cal (PAc 10, 24-16, 1st round loss to Sth Florida)

5-12/1-4 3pt 15pts 10 boards 2 asst/3 TO's in a loss to BYU (WCC 26-9, 2nd round loss in tourney)

vs LMU in conference tourney 6-17/1-9 3pt 27pts 6 rbds 2 asst 5 turnovers

This isn't the 2nd coming of Russell Westbrook or Derrick Rose....This is a shooting guard in a PG body, who when faced with better competition underperfomed and "suddenly" looked a lot more pedestrian....you'd be lucky to get Mo Williams....
 
Lillard as the 4th or 5th best player in this draft?

lol, you guys are insane.....

"This time we got him, we got our future franchise PG!!!"


"Oh shit...."

So you think no player that comes from a small school should be a top 10 draft pick. They should all come from from the "big schools". If there was ever going to be a guy drafted from a small school in the top 6 Lillard has all the game and stats to warrant it. There are always guys from small schools that end up being better then a lot of players drafted in the top 10. From just the last few years both Faried and Milsap came from small schools and are in the top 10 of their respective classes. I don't think Portland should pass on the best player available just because he went to a small school. Just like they shouldn't take a PG if there is a better player available.
 
All those numbers against the likes of basketball powerhouses like Sacramento State, Eastern Washington, Montana and Portland State....

How about these numbers:

4-17/3-10 3pt 14pts 3 boards 3 assists in loss to Cal (PAc 10, 24-16, 1st round loss to Sth Florida)

5-12/1-4 3pt 15pts 10 boards 2 asst/3 TO's in a loss to BYU (WCC 26-9, 2nd round loss in tourney)

vs LMU in conference tourney 6-17/1-9 3pt 27pts 6 rbds 2 asst 5 turnovers

This isn't the 2nd coming of Russell Westbrook or Derrick Rose....This is a shooting guard in a PG body, who when faced with better competition underperfomed and "suddenly" looked a lot more pedestrian....you'd be lucky to get Mo Williams....

Ouch.
 
He won't be the BPA at #6 though.....

Fans here just like to overreach\lust for a PG b\c this team's recent history has been so pathetic in regards to that position....

What if Marquis Teague didn't play for UK and instead went to Weber State...and then stayed there for three years...I bet his stats would look pretty damm good as well and people would be clamoring for him at #6....I think he will be a better PG in the NBA than Lillard will... and you don't need to waste the 6th pick on him....
 
All those numbers against the likes of basketball powerhouses like Sacramento State, Eastern Washington, Montana and Portland State....

How about these numbers:

4-17/3-10 3pt 14pts 3 boards 3 assists in loss to Cal (PAc 10, 24-16, 1st round loss to Sth Florida)

5-12/1-4 3pt 15pts 10 boards 2 asst/3 TO's in a loss to BYU (WCC 26-9, 2nd round loss in tourney)

vs LMU in conference tourney 6-17/1-9 3pt 27pts 6 rbds 2 asst 5 turnovers

This isn't the 2nd coming of Russell Westbrook or Derrick Rose....This is a shooting guard in a PG body, who when faced with better competition underperfomed and "suddenly" looked a lot more pedestrian....you'd be lucky to get Mo Williams....

He also had zero help around him. It's hard to get assists when the people around you can't make shots. Also defenses were keying on him the whole year. I talked to coaches that were game planning for Weber St. and everything was all about stopping Lillard. Also a guy is going to have an off game, I wouldn't expect him or anyone else to score 25 every game. If he wasn't hitting in a game he had to keep shooting because he was the only one that could create shots.
 
He won't be the BPA at #6 though.....

Fans here just like to overreach\lust for a PG b\c this team's recent history has been so pathetic in regards to that position....

What if Marquis Teague didn't play for UK and instead went to Weber State...and then stayed there for three years...I bet his stats would look pretty damm good as well and people would be clamoring for him at #6....I think he will be a better PG in the NBA than Lillard will... and you don't need to waste the 6th pick on him....

What have you seen from Teague that makes you think he will be better? And if Teague would have stayed around and proven that he was better then what he showed this last year then he would be deserving of a top pick. Teague hasn't shown the ability or skills that will translate to the NBA, Lillard has.
 
lol, he just happened to have off games against when he faced better competition...ok....

How about his sophmore year vs ASU? 2-17/0-8 12pts 3boards 5 asst 5 to in a loss...I know, just happened to be an off night....

and I don't buy rthe zero help arguement, he played against inferior talent....You think that b\c Teague played at UK and played the elite teams of the NCAA he had it easy? lol....I don't think so...and he did it as a freshman with several other freshman, not as a junior....
 
He also had zero help around him. It's hard to get assists when the people around you can't make shots. Also defenses were keying on him the whole year. I talked to coaches that were game planning for Weber St. and everything was all about stopping Lillard. Also a guy is going to have an off game, I wouldn't expect him or anyone else to score 25 every game. If he wasn't hitting in a game he had to keep shooting because he was the only one that could create shots.

Same could be said for Curry, but he didn't have the big drop off in games against better competition that Lillard did.
 
lol, he just happened to have off games against when he faced better competition...ok....

How about his sophmore year vs ASU? 2-17/0-8 12pts 3boards 5 asst 5 to in a loss...I know, just happened to be an off night....

and I don't buy rthe zero help arguement, he played against inferior talent....You think that b\c Teague played at UK and played the elite teams of the NCAA he had it easy? lol....I don't think so...and he did it as a freshman with several other freshman, not as a junior....

So are you saying Lillard won't be good in the NBA? What is your Big board, just wondering who you got above him.
 
1. AD
2. TROB
3. MKG
4. DRUMMOND
5. BEAL
6. SULLINGER
7. MOULTRIE
8. RIVERS
9. PJ3
10. LILLARD
11. BARNES
12. ROYCE WHITE
 
What have you seen from Teague that makes you think he will be better? And if Teague would have stayed around and proven that he was better then what he showed this last year then he would be deserving of a top pick. Teague hasn't shown the ability or skills that will translate to the NBA, Lillard has.

He got better as the year improved, increased his average by over 5ppg in the NCAA tourney (when it maters most), 2nd leading scorer for UK in the championship game...was a top 5 HS coming out of high school (I think top hs recruits generally translate to good pros), he is young (19), better assist\to ratio than Lillard and much better than Lillard had when he was a freshman and more athletic than Lillard...
 
So are you saying Lillard won't be good in the NBA? What is your Big board, just wondering who you got above him.

He may be ok, but I don't see him as a top 1/2 of the league starting PG, which if you are going to draft at #6, you better be getting a core player (one of your best 3 players) on your team....I think there are better options to choose there, and I am not convinced that he is so good he deserves to be chosen in the high lottery over other guys Teague, Taylor who could end up being as good or better pros than he is at 10-20 slots lower in the draft....or an established free agent that POR could pick up with thier available cap space....

All the stats, watching him play looks to me like a SG in a PG body...How good of one? I don't see Stephon Curry like someone mentioned, and the fact that he struggled vs better competition has to be concerning does it not? Or when you watch him shoot he doesn't seem to get great elevation and he tends to hold\shoot the ball low and out in front of him and a lot of his finishes in the paint are finger rolls\lay in types that I see getting stuffed in the NBA...very hard to successfully do that unless you are exceptionally crafty like Nash\Miller and I don't see that with Lillard..and he doesn't really have a floater or advanced mid range game, so if NBA teams play him up tight, don't let him take open shots or close out quickly and force him to readjust which again I am not sure he will be able to do with frequent success and if gets in the paint close in on him and make him have to ake the correct pass, which I think is another question mark...

He just seems to be more athletic\quick than the competition so he can get in the lane and finish over\around guys right now...against elite big men or PG guarding him though? I see a lot more jump shots in his NBA future...which reminds me of a best case Mo Williams...Who is an ok player, but not worth selecting at #6...
 
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