Politics President Pelosi?!?

[SlyPokerDog]

From J. Michael Straczynski

Sticking my neck out (and likely into a noose) here's my prediction on how the whole Trump thing will roll out.

Republicans in Congress are already scared out of their wits that Trump will bring them down in the 2018 midterms if he's still in office by that point. If that happens, they could lose the House and the Senate.

Trump will not be impeached, but rather will resign under pressure by no later than mid-November or early December. He will cite health reasons, or not wanting to be a distraction to the American people.

The Republicans will push for this because that way they would get to keep Pence (assuming he comes through the Russia thing clean, and there's no guarantee). Or, if Pence also has to go, Paul Ryan becomes President.

That gives the Republican party the Christmas break to let things die down, take the position that they cleaned up their own house, and hope everyone forgives and forgets by the time the November midterms come along.

This is absolutely essential to them for one reason above all: if Trump hangs on through the midterms, and they lose the House and/or Senate, and Trump/Pence are impeached afterward, it means that a (potentially) Democratic Speaker of the House would become president.

Which is precisely what could happen if Trump hangs on through the impeachment process.

So one way or another, they are gonna want Trump *gone* by late November or early December.

Now let's see if I'm right....

 

[SlyPokerDog]

This frightens me. Don't like Pelosi at all.

 

[bulls_with_booz]

All forms of media are turning into Democrat fan fiction message boards now lmao

 

[barfo]

I think the wheels of justice turn slower than this.

Plus, the only way the speaker gets to be president is if both POTUS and vice POTUS get removed pretty much at the same time. Otherwise, a new VP gets introduced into the mix, like Jerry Ford did.

barfo

 

[Dougnsalem]

Huh? I don't follow politics much, but he seems cool to me. It's this dude, right????

 

[Further]

OK, so we making this a prediction thread?

Trump hangs on with just enough support to make it past the midterms. Meanwhile, Dems take over the Senate by a good amount but just shy of taking back the house. After the midterms a while, the last shoe drops and Trump is forced to step down or be impeached. President Pence takes over and in 2020 The Dems take President and Senate but the House still stays Republican insuring that gridlock stays the norm till the waters rise and the polar bears learn to drive tanks and take over DC, costing us millions of lives but leaving behind a budding new political system built on free salmon for everyone.

 

[julius]

My prediction: Trump finishes his 4 years, and then loses the 2020 election to Elizabeth Warren.

And I'll be on my 2nd marriage by then.

 

[lawai'a]

My prediction: Trump finishes his 4 years, and then loses the 2020 election to Elizabeth Warren.

And I'll be on my 2nd marriage by then.

loses to michelle Obama pres. warren vp

 

[Further]

Loses to Pres Oprah and VP Melissa McCarthy

 

[Jade Falcon]

loses to michelle Obama pres. warren vp

Dear God. That actually frightens me. It could be possible. And I completely believe that Michelle is a vindictive, petty woman who will be absolutely ruthless to the middle class and middle America for what they did this past election. And especially towards white people in the fly-over states for what she sees as racism towards her husband.

That would be pretty goddamn ugly. And because her last name is "Obama", she'd win an election in a landslide. Nobody actually cares about her policies or political experience....just the fact that she's popular with celebrities and elitist snowflakes is more than enough to win her the presidency. And the GOP has absolutely nobody who can stand up to the sheer popularity that she brings to the table.

The question would be: would the Democrats allow her and Warren to survive the Primaries? Because that would be an ultra, far-left duo the likes of which has never been seen in this country. So do the Democrats want that, or do they want a more moderate candidate?

Interesting indeed.

 

[Further]

Dear God. That actually frightens me. It could be possible. And I completely believe that Michelle is a vindictive, petty woman who will be absolutely ruthless to the middle class and middle America for what they did this past election. And especially towards white people in the fly-over states for what she sees as racism towards her husband.

That would be pretty goddamn ugly. And because her last name is "Obama", she'd win an election in a landslide. Nobody actually cares about her policies or political experience....just the fact that she's popular with celebrities and elitist snowflakes is more than enough to win her the presidency. And the GOP has absolutely nobody who can stand up to the sheer popularity that she brings to the table.

Well at least you got Trump who was so obviously elected for his policies and political experience and not his celebrity

The question would be: would the Democrats allow her and Warren to survive the Primaries? Because that would be an ultra, far-left duo the likes of which has never been seen in this country. So do the Democrats want that, or do they want a more moderate candidate?

Interesting indeed.

I hope fucking so! I'd volunteer for that ticket.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Well at least you got Trump who was so obviously elected for his policies and political experience and not his celebrity



I hope fucking so! I'd volunteer for that ticket.

....you WANT an ultra, far-left duo? Why? For the entertainment value? Or just to watch the country burn?

Oh wait, I'm sorry....Conservatives and Republicans don't riot, so there would be no burning. Nevermind.

 

[Minstrel]

Trump will not be impeached, but rather will resign under pressure by no later than mid-November or early December. He will cite health reasons, or not wanting to be a distraction to the American people.

One thing we've definitely learned about Trump, is that he cares what the Republican establishment thinks of him or wants him to do.

I don't think he'll be impeached, even if the Democrats take control after the 2018 midterms. First of all, these types of investigations often take years. Second of all, from a purely gamesmanship standpoint, the Democrats have little to gain and a significant amount to lose by pushing Trump out of office via impeachment. A President Pence wouldn't be any more positive towards their agenda--he could well be more hostile than Trump is (as Trump has few ideological leanings; just a desire to enrich himself and his family). A President Pence would likely work much more comfortably with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. And, last of all, a President Pence would likely present a more serious/dignified image, ending the slow bleed of absurd behavior and petty (and not-so-petty) scandals.

I really don't see any upside for Democrats to successfully booting Trump out of office, other than through the 2020 election, and plenty of downside.

I think Trump will go into the 2020 election season with approval ratings between 35% and 40% and he might actually face a primary challenge. It takes a lot for a party to primary their own sitting President, but being sub-40% approval rating could do it. If George W. Bush had been eligible to run for re-election in 2008, I have little doubt that other Republicans--like McCain--would have entered the field.

 

[Further]

....you WANT an ultra, far-left duo? Why? For the entertainment value? Or just to watch the country burn?

Oh wait, I'm sorry....Conservatives and Republicans don't riot, so there would be no burning. Nevermind.

to perhaps get this country run correctly. Especially if Warren has a real part in policy.

 

[Jade Falcon]

One thing we've definitely learned about Trump, is that he cares what the Republican establishment thinks of him or wants him to do.

I don't think he'll be impeached, even if the Democrats take control after the 2018 midterms. First of all, these types of investigations often take years. Second of all, from a purely gamesmanship standpoint, the Democrats have little to gain and a significant amount to lose by pushing Trump out of office via impeachment. A President Pence wouldn't be any more positive towards their agenda--he could well be more hostile than Trump is (as Trump has few ideological leanings; just a desire to enrich himself and his family). A President Pence would likely work much more comfortably with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. And, last of all, a President Pence would likely present a more serious/dignified image, ending the slow bleed of absurd behavior and petty (and not-so-petty) scandals.

I really don't see any upside for Democrats to successfully booting Trump out of office, other than through the 2020 election, and plenty of downside.

I think Trump will go into the 2020 election season with approval ratings between 35% and 40% and he might actually face a primary challenge. It takes a lot for a party to primary their own sitting President, but being sub-40% approval rating could do it. If George W. Bush had been eligible to run for re-election in 2008, I have little doubt that other Republicans--like McCain--would have entered the field.

EDIT: Sorry Minstrel, I thought you were Rasta.

to perhaps get this country run correctly. Especially if Warren has a real part in policy.

.....and then there's this nonsense.

Warren is the LAST thing that this country needs. You do realize that most middle-class Democrats can't stand that woman, right? Do you think the middle class enjoys having a multi-millionaire elitist who got into college on bogus Native American claims pretend to claim that she knows what's best for them?

I don't think so. She's far too batshit crazy. Honestly, I'd rather see Sanders become president LONG before she does. And that's saying something, because his tax reforms are pretty batshit crazy too.

 

[barfo]

Do you think the middle class enjoys having a multi-millionaire elitist who got into college on bogus Native American claims pretend to claim that she knows what's best for them?

They prefer to have a billionaire egotist who got into college on daddy's money claim that he knows what's best for them?

barfo

 

[Jade Falcon]

They prefer to have a billionaire egotist who got into college on daddy's money claim that he knows what's best for them?

barfo

....who's not a career politician, and who doesn't associate with elitist celebrities who label you if you don't live to their standards.

That's a huge part of the equation that you conveniently left out.

 

[MarAzul]

....who's not a career politician, and who doesn't associate with elitist celebrities who label you if you don't live to their standards.

That's a huge part of the equation that you conveniently left out.

Don't feed the fish!

 

[MARIS61]

It should be obvious to anyone that Pelosi has dementia. She can't even remember who's President let alone be one. Reps will gain seats not lose in 2018. Dems are done.

 

[Jade Falcon]

It should be obvious to anyone that Pelosi has dementia. She can't even remember who's President let alone be one. Reps will gain seats not lose in 2018. Dems are done.

I hope you're right. But it's not looking pretty.

 

[MarAzul]

I hope you're right. But it's not looking pretty.

Oh I don't know...
http://www.newsmax.com/Surveys/Results/id/368/

 

[stampedehero]

EDIT: Sorry Minstrel, I thought you were Rasta.



.....and then there's this nonsense.

Warren is the LAST thing that this country needs. You do realize that most middle-class Democrats can't stand that woman, right? Do you think the middle class enjoys having a multi-millionaire elitist who got into college on bogus Native American claims pretend to claim that she knows what's best for them?

I don't think so. She's far too batshit crazy. Honestly, I'd rather see Sanders become president LONG before she does. And that's saying something, because his tax reforms are pretty batshit crazy too.

Sanders is all about what happens here. Unfortunately he would be 103 years old.

 

[stampedehero]

From J. Michael Straczynski

Sticking my neck out (and likely into a noose) here's my prediction on how the whole Trump thing will roll out.

Republicans in Congress are already scared out of their wits that Trump will bring them down in the 2018 midterms if he's still in office by that point. If that happens, they could lose the House and the Senate.

Trump will not be impeached, but rather will resign under pressure by no later than mid-November or early December. He will cite health reasons, or not wanting to be a distraction to the American people.

The Republicans will push for this because that way they would get to keep Pence (assuming he comes through the Russia thing clean, and there's no guarantee). Or, if Pence also has to go, Paul Ryan becomes President.

That gives the Republican party the Christmas break to let things die down, take the position that they cleaned up their own house, and hope everyone forgives and forgets by the time the November midterms come along.

This is absolutely essential to them for one reason above all: if Trump hangs on through the midterms, and they lose the House and/or Senate, and Trump/Pence are impeached afterward, it means that a (potentially) Democratic Speaker of the House would become president.

Which is precisely what could happen if Trump hangs on through the impeachment process.

So one way or another, they are gonna want Trump *gone* by late November or early December.

Now let's see if I'm right....

My take is that Trump will not be in 8 years. He will drag the Presidency into a deep abyss for four total years. The next Republican candidate will absolutely be a politician. The Democrats have very weak candidates and if Michelle Obama is nominated it would stun me.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Sanders is all about what happens here. Unfortunately he would be 103 years old.

His "Make America Europe" plan is wrong for this country, and his tax plans are absolutely appalling. I don't think he would ever win based on the fact that pretty much all business in this country would be against him. And if the lower class were any kind of smart, they'd vote against him too, since they would be paying much higher taxes on pretty much everything.

My take is that Trump will not be in 8 years. He will drag the Presidency into a deep abyss for four total years. The next Republican candidate will absolutely be a politician. The Democrats have very weak candidates and if Michelle Obama is nominated it would stun me. View attachment 14491

It wouldn't stun me, and I actually think it will happen sometime within the next 20 years. I think the Democrats are that desperate, and don't care about actual policy and competence, as long as they elect a popular candidate. They still haven't gotten over their "we need to be popular" mentality.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

LOL

The hypocrisy is so fucking over the top I can't tell if it's a joke or not. But either way it's still hilarious!

 

[Jade Falcon]

LOL

The hypocrisy is so fucking over the top I can't tell if it's a joke or not. But either way it's still hilarious!

Anyone who's a Democrat right now is in no position to lecture anyone about hypocrisy.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Anyone who's a Democrat right now is in no position to lecture anyone about hypocrisy.

lol stop! I can't take it!

 

[Jade Falcon]

lol stop! I can't take it!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

 

[riverman]

Either Kasich or some Celebrity will run against Trump if he survives his first term...Kasich is leaning towards running as an independent and I think he can beat Trump and appeal to conservatives. If the Dems run Oprah or Tom Hanks I won't be surprised