Question about cap space and salaries

[<-=*PdX*=->]

So, I was looking at a list of the highest paid players in the league that don't play that had Darius Miles, RLEC and Steve Francis on it. When do the 3 of those contracts come off Portland's books? Rafe's and Steve's were like 14 million plus a year.

I know Rafe is this year, but when the other 2 come off shouldn't we still have a decent amount of cap space? I thought this would be around 2010, the big off-season.

 

[BrianFromWA]

In the future, storytellerscontracts.com is a great site.

For now, it's usually more helpful (when judging cap space) to look at what contracts are still on the books rather than who's coming off. Raef and Francis come off the books this year, and Miles next summer. With Miles on our books this summer, and renouncing Frye's and Diogu's cap holds, we should be committed to about 50.5M. Cap is projected to be at around 58-60M.

By not picking up options on Blake and Outlaw, that can be down at 43M.

 

[<-=*PdX*=->]

In the future, storytellerscontracts.com is a great site.

For now, it's usually more helpful (when judging cap space) to look at what contracts are still on the books rather than who's coming off. Raef and Francis come off the books this year, and Miles next summer. With Miles on our books this summer, and renouncing Frye's and Diogu's cap holds, we should be committed to about 50.5M. Cap is projected to be at around 58-60M.

By not picking up options on Blake and Outlaw, that can be down at 43M.

Cool. I have never heard of that website. I am gonna take a look at it

 

[barfo]

Cool. I have never heard of that website. I am gonna take a look at it

And by the way, there is a version of Storyteller's data on this site. If you go to the topmost red menu bar, and go to the next to last item (SportsTwo), and click on NBA Salaries, you'll get Storyteller's spreadsheet.

barfo

 

[MikeDC]

And by the way, there is a version of Storyteller's data on this site. If you go to the topmost red menu bar, and go to the next to last item (SportsTwo), and click on NBA Salaries, you'll get Storyteller's spreadsheet.

barfo

I keep this one updated, so if anyone ever sees a problem or discrepancy, just PM me

 

[Nikolokolus]

In the future, storytellerscontracts.com is a great site.

For now, it's usually more helpful (when judging cap space) to look at what contracts are still on the books rather than who's coming off. Raef and Francis come off the books this year, and Miles next summer. With Miles on our books this summer, and renouncing Frye's and Diogu's cap holds, we should be committed to about 50.5M. Cap is projected to be at around 58-60M.

By not picking up options on Blake and Outlaw, that can be down at 43M.

the url is actually http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/08-09salaries.htm

The bottom line is that Blazers could potentially have up to around 15 million in cap room if they choose to let both Travis and Blake go (along with Ike and Channing almost certainly renounced) but I tend to think they'll retain one or the other since both provide production well beyond what they are payed.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Didn't know that, guys. Thanks.

 

[STOMP]

So, I was looking at a list of the highest paid players in the league that don't play that had Darius Miles, RLEC and Steve Francis on it. When do the 3 of those contracts come off Portland's books? Rafe's and Steve's were like 14 million plus a year.

I know Rafe is this year, but when the other 2 come off shouldn't we still have a decent amount of cap space? I thought this would be around 2010, the big off-season.

for 2010 you presumably add on new max type contracts for Roy and Aldridge or Qualifying Offers which would have cap holds far above the face value figures. I'm pretty sure doing either scenario wipes out potential cap space that summer.

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

The bottom line is that Blazers could potentially have up to around 15 million in cap room if they choose to let both Travis and Blake go (along with Ike and Channing almost certainly renounced) but I tend to think they'll retain one or the other since both provide production well beyond what they are payed.

retaining TO next season would run 3.8M and Blake 4.9M so if both are retained they'll have 6.3M of cap space which is still above the MLE (possibly enough to lure Josh Childress). Retain only one of the two and they've max type room for either a FA or a lopsided trade (from a financial perspective).

STOMP

 

[Nikolokolus]

retaining TO next season would run 3.8M and Blake 4.9M so if both are retained they'll have 6.3M of cap space which is still above the MLE (possibly enough to lure Josh Childress). Retain only one of the two and they've max type room for either a FA or a lopsided trade (from a financial perspective).

STOMP

Unless Storyteller has it wrong, Blake is (supposedly) due 4 million next year and Travis 3.6 ... but I agree with the rest of what you had to say in principle.

 

[STOMP]

Unless Storyteller has it wrong, Blake is (supposedly) due 4 million next year and Travis 3.6 ... but I agree with the rest of what you had to say in principle.

huh... there seems to be a disagreement between the Storyteller direct link you're referring to and the Storyteller spreadsheet short cut through S2 that barfo gave directions to. But using the direct link figures would give the Blazers even more capspace (7.4M) if they retained both TO and Blake so the point I was trying to make still stands

STOMP

 

[Nikolokolus]

huh... there seems to be a disagreement between the Storyteller direct link you're referring to and the Storyteller spreadsheet short cut through S2 that barfo gave directions to

STOMP

Well, the difference is pretty negligible, and the point remains the same that neither is particularly expensive for the production they give.

KP is going to have some really tough choices to make this off-season depending on what happens before the trade deadline with Raef's contract, and if there is some free agent out there that he'd really like to get.

Childress is probably at least due the full MLE and I still think this team needs to go out and get a good, bruising, backup power forward ... unless Freeland is ready to come over.

The next six months are going to be really interesting insofar as roster changes and the complexion of this team for the next few years.