Question about Przybilla's contract

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Is Joel's contract covered by insurance if he stays injured? That is, would the team that acquired him have to pay him, or would the insurance company pay him? I remember hearing something that made it sound like his contract was very attractive.

Also, is it fully or only partially guaranteed?
 
Is Joel's contract covered by insurance if he stays injured? That is, would the team that acquired him have to pay him, or would the insurance company pay him? I remember hearing something that made it sound like his contract was very attractive.

Also, is it fully or only partially guaranteed?

His contract is fully guaranteed, and as far as insurance picking up the tab I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think he's missed enough games yet for it to be paid for by insurance ... another weird thing I heard about a month or so ago is that the company that insures these contracts has exemptions on something like 20 players in the league and Joel could be one of them (there was no definitive list that the person reporting this had seen).
 
Here's the snippet from Larry Coon's FAQ that clarifies things: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q60

There is a league-wide policy that insures the contracts of around 150 players each season. The five most expensive contracts for each team are included, and teams have the option of submitting additional names for coverage. The carrier has the right to exclude 14 contracts per season, such as when they consider a player with a very large remaining contract to be a medical risk. For example they excluded Luol Deng in 2008-09 because he had $71 million remaining and a history of back injuries. The list of excluded players changes each year, so a player who is not covered one season might be covered the following season.

If an insured player is disabled, then there is a 41 game waiting period, after which the insurance company will pay 80% of the guaranteed portion of the player's base salary. Once a player is covered, the carrier can't exclude the player for the remainder of his current contract.

If the player is traded, his new team receives the beneft -- for example, even though Cuttino Mobley's heart condition was discovered prior to his trade to the Knicks, the Knicks received the insurance payout.
 
I was wondering the same thing today. If insurance pays for some of his salary, his contract would be even more desirable to a team such as, oh I'll just pick any old team....the hornets.
 
There are 12 exceptions the insurance company can make, and they make them the year that the contract is signed. AFAIK, they don't publish the list of exceptions. After 41 games out, insurance picks up 80% of each game he's out. Even if he comes back and plays, and then re-injures himself, the insurance pays 80% of each game he's out.

I DON'T know what that means with regards to his trade kicker.
 
Well, according to hoopshype Joel is our 4th largest contract....so he should be covered.
 
Well, according to hoopshype Joel is our 4th largest contract....so he should be covered.

Unless he's one of the fourteen contracts around the league that was exempted (I tend to think not, given the modest size of his deal).
 
Well, according to hoopshype Joel is our 4th largest contract....so he should be covered.

But if he gets traded to a team where he's NOT in the top five, does that mean that insurance wouldn't cover it then?
What about if we acquired two players higher-paid (or, as might actually happen, their rookie deals expire and they get paid a shitload more), does that mean he would cease to be paid? Does it vary like that, or is it fixed by whether or not he's in the top five when the contract was signed?
 
Larry Coon said:
If an insured player is disabled, then there is a 41 game waiting period, after which the insurance company will pay 80% of the guaranteed portion of the player's base salary. Once a player is covered, the carrier can't exclude the player for the remainder of his current contract.

Does the bolded part make Joel's contract extra attractive, because we've suffered either all, or nearly all (do our playoff games count?) of that 41, so if he misses more next season, they're covered?

Might this be a case where a team would only do the trade if he failed a physical?
 
But if he gets traded to a team where he's NOT in the top five, does that mean that insurance wouldn't cover it then?
What about if we acquired two players higher-paid (or, as might actually happen, their rookie deals expire and they get paid a shitload more), does that mean he would cease to be paid? Does it vary like that, or is it fixed by whether or not he's in the top five when the contract was signed?

This should make it clear:

If an insured player is disabled, then there is a 41 game waiting period, after which the insurance company will pay 80% of the guaranteed portion of the player's base salary. Once a player is covered, the carrier can't exclude the player for the remainder of his current contract.

Since Joel was one of the top paid Blazers in the past couple of years I'm pretty sure his deal was covered when he went down last December.
 
Bye the bye, Brandon Roy is one of those 14 excluded contract.
 
I don't know that Oden would be guaranteed. I'd imagine Bynum is.
 

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