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Since a good many of us on this board are 50+ I was wondering what trade or decision did the Yankees make over say the last 30-40 years that had you asking...."WTF are you guys thinking?"


For me there's been several but I'd have to say the handling of the way Bernies career came to an end after the 2006 season. 131 games 12 / 61 / 281 and he wasn't worthy of another year. It just seemed to happen way to quick & I thought he deserved more. JMO.
 
Rick2583 said:




Since a good many of us on this board are 50+ I was wondering what trade or decision did the Yankees make over say the last 30-40 years that had you asking...."WTF are you guys thinking?"


For me there's been several but I'd have to say the handling of the way Bernies career came to an end after the 2006 season. 131 games 12 / 61 / 281 and he wasn't worthy of another year. It just seemed to happen way to quick & I thought he deserved more. JMO.
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Very well put Rick...

Hmm, I'm going to have to think hard on this one. I gotta' take Kim to the Dr. here soon for most of the day, today. I will give this one some serious thought today, and get back to you. (you didn't think I wouldn't bite like a fish on this one did you, as long as I'm not flapping around on the shore)...LOL.
 
Rick2583 said:
Wasn't he signed as a free agent?

I got one for you, Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps. I mean really was George smoking something?
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I remember hearing him as the player who hit the most HRs after being a Yankee... but I don't remember him while with the Yankees or in the farm... or the circumstances...

And... I know I'm not 50+, hell, not even 40+, but I was thinking from my very early years there were a number of situations handled poorly... Gene the Stick Michaels, Dave Winfield, Rickey Henderson coming and going... Or even more recently, how things were left with both Don Zimmer and Joe Torre...
 
Hammerojustice said:
I remember hearing him as the player who hit the most HRs after being a Yankee... but I don't remember him while with the Yankees or in the farm... or the circumstances...

And... I know I'm not 50+, hell, not even 40+, but I was thinking from my very early years there were a number of situations handled poorly... Gene the Stick Michaels, Dave Winfield, Rickey Henderson coming and going... Or even more recently, how things were left with both Don Zimmer and Joe Torre...
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And as much as I didn't like the guy I think letting Reggie walk was a mistake. And I think years later George even admitted to that.
 
Rick2583 said:
And as much as I didn't like the guy I think letting Reggie walk was a mistake. And I think years later George even admitted to that.
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That was before my time... no doubt about that...
 
OK, I'm not 50 yet (46 going on 47), but my trilogy of WTF are pitchers: Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson and Carl Pavano.
 
Oh...and as for the big fish that got away....Fred McGriff.
 
Rick2583 said:
And as much as I didn't like the guy I think letting Reggie walk was a mistake. And I think years later George even admitted to that.
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totus44 said:
OK, I'm not 50 yet (46 going on 47), but my trilogy of WTF are pitchers: Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson and Carl Pavano.
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totus44 said:
Oh...and as for the big fish that got away....Fred McGriff.
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I got to agree on the above. The Pitcher's noted, never performed to expectations, or previous accomplisments. Pava-NO, utterly pissed me off, so did K.Brown. Johnson was a dud, and washed up.

McGriff would of made an awesome DH, and 1st bagger backup. I read in SI, when McGriff was still a Minor Leaguer, and Top Prospect, how he would hit balls up and over, the 3rd deck in RF. Many a Yank, said they had never seen anything like the Crime Dogs HR's.

Yep, letting Reggie come to Anaheim was a mistake on George's part.

Obtaining "The Chemist" Jose Canseco.in 2000,off of waivers, was a joke. To bad we didn't know what we know now, or Jose would of never been able to come out of the Clubhouse.

I loved seeing P. O'Neill being signed. He was a stud in Cincy and The Bronx.

Buehner's little brother (a spitting image clone of his big brother Jay), played 1st base in Lancaster, for the JetHawks in 96. He could smash a ball, yet never was his big brother either, also little brother was a dud, but in the M's Org.

Of course, my favorite acquisitions were seeing Catfish, Reggie, come to NY, from Oakland, a great score or pickup of Free Agency, in your face.

I wasn't happy to see Doug Drabek get traded either for (Pat Clements, Cecilio Guante and Rick Rhoden). I never like Rhoden's lazy sloppy approach or ways, I despised everything about Rhoden. Drabek had one nasty curve-ball, one of the best for His Time, a big mistake letting Doug go.!!

Getting Pinella, "Sweet Lou" for Lindy McDaniel in a trade was an utter steal....!!!

Letting Goose Gossage go to San Diego was a joke.

So was letting Nettles go, traded for Dennis Rasmussen, and a player to be named later, who was that player anyway??

I also was glad to see Sparky Lyle come to NY for Danny Cater.

I also enjoyed seeing Sudden Sam McDowell come to NY, although he was pretty muich washed up, and a alcoholic by then. Nothing of his glory years in Cleveland. His 1-6 record, was nothing to what we were used to seeing, in a once great Lefty.


I enjoyed seeing Bobby Bonds come to NY as a FA, also.
 
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I got to agree on the above. The Pitcher's noted, never performed to expectations, or previous accomplisments. Pava-NO, utterly pissed me off, so did K.Brown. Johnson was a dud, and washed up.

McGriff would of made an awesome DH, and 1st bagger backup. I read in SI, when McGriff was still a Minor Leaguer, and Top Prospect, how he would hit balls up and over, the 3rd deck in RF. Many a Yank, said they had never seen anything like the Crime Dogs HR's.

Yep, letting Reggie come to Anaheim was a mistake on George's part.

Obtaining "The Chemist" Jose Canseco.in 2000,off of waivers, was a joke. To bad we didn't know what we know now, or Jose would of never been able to come out of the Clubhouse.

I loved seeing P. O'Neill being signed. He was a stud in Cincy and The Bronx.

Buehner's little brother (a spitting image clone of his big brother Jay), played 1st base in Lancaster, for the JetHawks in 96. He could smash a ball, yet never was his big brother either, also little brother was a dud, but in the M's Org.

Of course, my favorite acquisitions were seeing Catfish, Reggie, come to NY, from Oakland, a great score or pickup of Free Agency, in your face.

I wasn't happy to see Doug Drabek get traded either for (Pat Clements, Cecilio Guante and Rick Rhoden). I never like Rhoden's lazy sloppy approach or ways, I despised everything about Rhoden. Drabek had one nasty curve-ball, one of the best for His Time, a big mistake letting Doug go.!!

Getting Pinella, "Sweet Lou" for Lindy McDaniel in a trade was an utter steal....!!!

Letting Goose Gossage go to San Diego was a joke.

So was letting Nettles go, traded for Dennis Rasmussen, and a player to be named later, who was that player anyway??

I also was glad to see Sparky Lyle come to NY for Danny Cater.

I also enjoyed seeing Sudden Sam McDowell come to NY, although he was pretty muich washed up, and a alcoholic by then. Nothing of his glory years in Cleveland. His 1-6 record, was nothing to what we were used to seeing, in a once great Lefty.


I enjoyed seeing Bobby Bonds come to NY as a FA, also.
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Bobby Bonds wasn't off the FA pile, he was aquired via a trade with the Giants. Bobby (Bonds) for Bobby (Murcer). As both a Giant & Yankee fan I hated to see the Giants trade him. But seeing him go to the Yankees softened the blow. And after a good season with the Yankees (30-30) The Yankees used him to pull of the trade that would put them into the world series. Trading Bonds to the Angels for Mick the quick & Ed Figarora. Again for the 2nd year in a row I hated losing Bonds but It ended up being one of the greatest trades George ever pulled off.

Bonds was one of my favorite players & had he stayed with the Giants he probably would not only have been in the HOF today but I've no doubt he would also have been a member of the 500 HR club. I'm not sure why Bonds played for so many teams over the years (I believe 8) but I heard he had his demons that mostly came from a bottle. A great talent. which became a great waste after only (I believe) 14 seasons.
 
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Rick2583 said:
Wasn't he signed as a free agent?

I got one for you, Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps. I mean really was George smoking something?
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Thats the one for me also. One of worst deals in baseball history
 
Rick2583 said:
Bobby Bonds wasn't off the FA pile, he was aquired via a trade with the Giants. Bobby (Bonds) for Bobby (Murcer). As both a Giant & Yankee fan I hated to see the Giants trade him. But seeing him go to the Yankees softened the blow. And after a good season with the Yankees (30-30) The Yankees used him to pull of the trade that would put them into the world series. Trading Bonds to the Angels for Mick the quick & Ed Figarora. Again for the 2nd year in a row I hated losing Bonds but It ended up being one of the greatest trades George ever pulled off.

Bonds was one of my favorite players & had he stayed with the Giants he probably would not only have been in the HOF today but I've no doubt he would also have been a member of the 500 HR club. I'm not sure why Bonds played for so many teams over the years (I believe 8) but I heard he had his demons that mostly came from a bottle. A great talent. which became a great waste after only (I believe) 14 seasons.
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Ooops, my bad, I meant to say that....I don't know what got into me, late night, bloodshot eyes, and a lethargic mind, I guess.

Your right, I honestly enjoyed seeing Bonds in NY, but thought he should of never left Frisco, he seemed at home there. His day with Mays, were incredible. Bonds was (from what I heard in the area that time) supposed to be heir apparent to May's throne. He was fast as a greased bug, a decent glove, and fielder, when he wasn't running into Mays. His hitting was streaky, a good line drive hitter, with some pop, but his batting avg. suffered, from his trying to hit a HR every AT Bat.

Good morning Rick, sent you a PM.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Ooops, my bad, I meant to say that....I don't know what got into me, late night, bloodshot eyes, and a lethargic mind, I guess.

Your right, I honestly enjoyed seeing Bonds in NY, but thought he should of never left Frisco, he seemed at home there. His day with Mays, were incredible. Bonds was (from what I heard in the area that time) supposed to be heir apparent to May's throne. He was fast as a greased bug, a decent glove, and fielder, when he wasn't running into Mays. His hitting was streaky, a good line drive hitter, with some pop, but his batting avg. suffered, from his trying to hit a HR every AT Bat.

Good morning Rick, sent you a PM.
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Not many realize that he was well on his way becoming the 1st 40-40 player. I think it was in 73 when he finished with 39 HRs & 43 SBs. He had I think 10 games left in the season to hit #40 but it never happened.

SHIT!, there was suppose to be a sad face at the end. I copied & pasted by no luck. Oh well.
 
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Rick2583 said:
Not many realize that he was well on his way becoming the 1st 40-40 player. I think it was in 73 when he finished with 39 HRs & 43 SBs. He had I think 10 games left in the season to hit #40 but it never happened.

SHIT!, there was suppose to be a sad face at the end. I copied & pasted by no luck. Oh well.
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I may of forgot to say, when placing smileys, ensure your cursor or mouse click where you want the smiley, then click on the smiley icon...When highlighting text for color or font types, then highlight the field of words, then click on the color or bold, or size you want the text to be...but opposite for smileys, just ensure your cursor is where you want the smiley...:cowboy:
 
Mattingly23NY said:
:cowboy:


I may of forgot to say, when placing smileys, ensure your cursor or mouse click where you want the smiley, then click on the smiley icon...When highlighting text for color or font types, then highlight the field of words, then click on the color or bold, or size you want the text to be...but opposite for smileys, just ensure your cursor is where you want the smiley...:cowboy:
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I think that's EXACTLY! what I did. but STILL no smiley face.
 
1. Letting Reggie go. (Mistake)
2. Trading Buhner for Phelps (Mistake)
3. Trading Kelly for O'Neill (Glad I was wrong on that one).
4. Passing up Jack Morris' discount (Mistake)
5. Passing up Carlos Beltran's discount (mistake)
6. Letting Pettitte go after 2003 (Mistake)
7. Signing Dave Collins (Mistake)
8. Signing the Goose after Lyle was the Cy Young (Glad I was wrong about that)
9. Firing Dick Howser after he won 103 games (Mistake)
10. The last 3 Billy Martin hires (Really?)
 
vette322 said:
1. Letting Reggie go. (Mistake)
2. Trading Buhner for Phelps (Mistake)
3. Trading Kelly for O'Neill (Glad I was wrong on that one).
4. Passing up Jack Morris' discount (Mistake)
5. Passing up Carlos Beltran's discount (mistake)
6. Letting Pettitte go after 2003 (Mistake)
7. Signing Dave Collins (Mistake)
8. Signing the Goose after Lyle was the Cy Young (Glad I was wrong about that)
9. Firing Dick Howser after he won 103 games (Mistake)
10. The last 3 Billy Martin hires (Really?)
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I actually agree with ALL of that.
 
vette322 said:
1. Letting Reggie go. (Mistake)
2. Trading Buhner for Phelps (Mistake)
3. Trading Kelly for O'Neill (Glad I was wrong on that one).
4. Passing up Jack Morris' discount (Mistake)
5. Passing up Carlos Beltran's discount (mistake)
6. Letting Pettitte go after 2003 (Mistake)
7. Signing Dave Collins (Mistake)
8. Signing the Goose after Lyle was the Cy Young (Glad I was wrong about that)
9. Firing Dick Howser after he won 103 games (Mistake)
10. The last 3 Billy Martin hires (Really?)
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Best posting yet Vette, good going, why in the hell did Dick Howser get fired, any one know?
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Best posting yet Vette, good going, why in the hell did Dick Howser get fired, any one know?
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Yeah, how the hell do you fire Howser & hire Billy 5 times? I'm convinced George was snorting horse manure.
 
Rick2583 said:
I think that's EXACTLY! what I did. but STILL no smiley face.
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Aaahh, I see you do have the magic touch with color.....when you go advanced, and hit see more, it takes a moment, to open a whole new window for those smiley faces, are you getting a 2nd new window when you hit see more?/

I often get that 2nd window and at times, it winds up behind my Window for the Board, and I have to look at my toolbar at the bottom of my Computer Window,which differs from the board window, where I will see a new tab, or icon for that second window. You can also minimize you Window by clicking on the 1st of three icons, and it is the little slot looks like this _ , or you can minimize the screens by hitting the middle button, but be careful not to hit the X far right button or that will blow you out and close your windows. Again this differs from the screen window.

by hit, I mean, take the mouse to the icon and press, in my case I just use a baseball bat to hit these things...
 
Berra_10_W.S.Rings said:
Can someone please tell me why Yogi was fired after 64, after the team winning 99 games, and lost in the Series in 7 games??????

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Honestly, I don't have a clue, and have wondered the same thing, most of my life.....a true knowledge procrastinator, as you would think by now, I would have and own the Yankees book 59 put up, in the Books Post...I got to get my hands on that book, come next payday and its mine........
 
Hammerojustice said:
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I like your new Avitar Hammer, it makes me hear Sand Man, and have visual memories of Mo'....but then I liked your last Avitar, ......the Viking pre-dating Thor.

This post makes me think of old Yankee 60s-Dynasties, we were treated to see in person. The Orioles of those late 60s-early 70s, the Athletics, Giants, Dodgers, Tigers, Big Red Machine.....a ton of Hall of Famers, from all Teams in that era, 60-80.
Seems no Teams really dominated in the 80s, we had the Roid Bash Brothers, which one never took steroids of course, and deserves to be hung by the Maris Boys.
The Cards, Tigers, Twins, yet no one really dominated the 80s decade.

The 90s began a new era of dominance, from the Jays, to the Yankees and Braves.

An Open Question For Anyone-(maybe grounds for a new post).

Who will be the next dominating Dynasty of a TEAM, and NO please don't say the Bosox Bozo Boys...!!!!
 
Hammerojustice said:
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You've got a lot of good years ahead of you Steve. Get the most out of it because it does go by very fast. So enjoy what you have everyday. And I hope the wife is feeling better in dealing with her pregnancy. Good luck.
 
vette322 said:
1. Letting Reggie go. (Mistake)
2. Trading Buhner for Phelps (Mistake)
3. Trading Kelly for O'Neill (Glad I was wrong on that one).
4. Passing up Jack Morris' discount (Mistake)
5. Passing up Carlos Beltran's discount (mistake)
6. Letting Pettitte go after 2003 (Mistake)
7. Signing Dave Collins (Mistake)
8. Signing the Goose after Lyle was the Cy Young (Glad I was wrong about that)
9. Firing Dick Howser after he won 103 games (Mistake)
10. The last 3 Billy Martin hires (Really?)
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I asked earlier, but I don't really recall how Buhner was viewed by the organization prior to trading him for Phelps... Obviously, in hindisight, he shouldn't have been traded...
 
Mattingly23NY said:
I like your new Avitar Hammer, it makes me hear Sand Man, and have visual memories of Mo'....but then I liked your last Avitar, ......the Viking pre-dating Thor.
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Thank you and Thank you!

Mattingly23NY said:

An Open Question For Anyone-(maybe grounds for a new post).

Who will be the next dominating Dynasty of a TEAM, and NO please don't say the Bosox Bozo Boys...!!!!
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I really have no clue...
 
Rick2583 said:
You've got a lot of good years ahead of you Steve. Get the most out of it because it does go by very fast. So enjoy what you have everyday. And I hope the wife is feeling better in dealing with her pregnancy. Good luck.
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Thanks... today was opening day of trout season up here, and I have to say it was the worst EVER.... next year, on opening day, I'll go without the boys.... WAY too stressful...
 
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