Question for you cap smart guys.

[Tyler_Hansbrough]

If we do NOTHING this year in the FA market. No signings and no trades. How much money will we have next year? Miles 9 million comes off the books. So does that mean we will have appx. 19 million to spend on a FA?

How much of that 19 million do we spend on extending contracts?

Basically what I am getting at, is it better for us to go after someone NOW, or wait for next year?

It seems like the FA market is getting thin. and why should we make a move just to make a move? Would it be better to wait?

 

[B-Roy]

If we do NOTHING this year in the FA market. No signings and no trades. How much money will we have next year? Miles 9 million comes off the books. So does that mean we will have appx. 19 million to spend on a FA?

How much of that 19 million do we spend on extending contracts?

Basically what I am getting at, is it better for us to go after someone NOW, or wait for next year?

It seems like the FA market is getting thin. and why should we make a move just to make a move? Would it be better to wait?

We will have zero. Roy and Aldridge will have their extensions kick in.

If you don't extend them, they are going to have a caphold 3x their contract value.

 

[Tyler_Hansbrough]

We will have zero. Roy and Aldridge will have their extensions kick in.

If you don't extend them, they are going to have a caphold 3x their contract value.

So it would be better to make a move now, even if it wasn't the 'right' move?

 

[illmatic99]

http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143587

 

[B-Roy]

So it would be better to make a move now, even if it wasn't the 'right' move?

Yes.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Not really anything.

Roy and Aldridge will sign extensions this summer and their cap hold will be somewhere in the 15 million dollar range.


This is it.

 

[Entity]

Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge will have cap holds in the tens of millions when their contracts expire if they aren't extended before then (which they most certainly will). There will be no cap space in 2010, unless Portland renounces them both.

(edit): Ugh, too slow.

 

[ABM]

Not really anything.

Roy and Aldridge will sign extensions this summer and their cap hold will be somewhere in the 15 million dollar range.


This is it.

I'm holding out for a big-time (lopsided salaries) trade this summer.

 

[Tyler_Hansbrough]

http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143587

Sorry, I just saw that.

My bad!!!!!!

 

[Sug]

If we wait we will have zero space as everyone has pointed out. We are actually in a position of strength right now. We have a great deal of cap space and young talent. We will make a nice trade in the next two weeks.

 

[Minstrel]

Not zero, as yuyuza points out. But not enough to land a major free agent.

 

[Stepping Razor]

There is one interesting wrinkle to this, though. If we don't do anything at all this summer, we would still remain ~9M under the cap throughout the season and, in fact, until June 30, 2010. That means that we would be, quite likely, the one and only team in the NBA that could take on another team's salary dump at the trade deadline *and at the time of the 2010 draft*.

If, say, Washington ends up with a poor record halfway through the season and decides to blow it all up rather than paying luxury tax for a non-playoff team, they could send us Caron Butler for the much cheaper expiring contract of Travis Outlaw. (Not necessarily that one scenario, but something like that from any of the league's high-salary teams that might underperform.)

And, if a team with a high draft pick doesn't like what's on the board before next year's draft, we'd be in a position to take a salary dump plus their high pick in exchange for nothing. (Sort of like the Minnesota/Washington deal that got the Wolves Rubio this year...) Also, a team looking to clear extra cap space to make a run at the 2010 FA class could send us someone for nothing, right up to June 30, 2010.

I'm not saying that either of these scenarios is especially likely to result in us making a major acquisition, but it would certainly be possible. Our cap space *could* still help us at this year's trade deadline, or at next year's draft, or in the last days before next year's free agency bonanza begins.

Once we hit July 1, 2010, though, we got nothin'.

SR

 

[Sug]

There is one interesting wrinkle to this, though. If we don't do anything at all this summer, we would still remain ~9M under the cap throughout the season and, in fact, until June 30, 2010. That means that we would be, quite likely, the one and only team in the NBA that could take on another team's salary dump at the trade deadline *and at the time of the 2010 draft*.

If, say, Washington ends up with a poor record halfway through the season and decides to blow it all up rather than paying luxury tax for a non-playoff team, they could send us Caron Butler for the much cheaper expiring contract of Travis Outlaw. (Not necessarily that one scenario, but something like that from any of the league's high-salary teams that might underperform.)

And, if a team with a high draft pick doesn't like what's on the board before next year's draft, we'd be in a position to take a salary dump plus their high pick in exchange for nothing. (Sort of like the Minnesota/Washington deal that got the Wolves Rubio this year...) Also, a team looking to clear extra cap space to make a run at the 2010 FA class could send us someone for nothing, right up to June 30, 2010.

I'm not saying that either of these scenarios is especially likely to result in us making a major acquisition, but it would certainly be possible. Our cap space *could* still help us at this year's trade deadline, or at next year's draft, or in the last days before next year's free agency bonanza begins.

Once we hit July 1, 2010, though, we got nothin'.

SR

It might make some sense to keep it, but mid-season trades tend to push the teams progress back a bit. It is a relevant and valid point, thanks for bringing it up.

 

[alex42083]

It's been like a big huge tease these past six months, being involved in every trade rumor possible it seems like for every available player out there, and yet we've had none of it accomplished. Kind of frustrating.

 

[Idog1976]

There is one interesting wrinkle to this, though. If we don't do anything at all this summer, we would still remain ~9M under the cap throughout the season and, in fact, until June 30, 2010. That means that we would be, quite likely, the one and only team in the NBA that could take on another team's salary dump at the trade deadline *and at the time of the 2010 draft*.

If, say, Washington ends up with a poor record halfway through the season and decides to blow it all up rather than paying luxury tax for a non-playoff team, they could send us Caron Butler for the much cheaper expiring contract of Travis Outlaw. (Not necessarily that one scenario, but something like that from any of the league's high-salary teams that might underperform.)

And, if a team with a high draft pick doesn't like what's on the board before next year's draft, we'd be in a position to take a salary dump plus their high pick in exchange for nothing. (Sort of like the Minnesota/Washington deal that got the Wolves Rubio this year...) Also, a team looking to clear extra cap space to make a run at the 2010 FA class could send us someone for nothing, right up to June 30, 2010.

I'm not saying that either of these scenarios is especially likely to result in us making a major acquisition, but it would certainly be possible. Our cap space *could* still help us at this year's trade deadline, or at next year's draft, or in the last days before next year's free agency bonanza begins.

Once we hit July 1, 2010, though, we got nothin'.

SR

That's a great point about having the cap space until June 30th 2010 that could be huge.