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I was trying to get a rough idea as to the Yankees payroll so far for 2015 & the obvious ones total $169M between only 11 players.......

A-Rod $21M
Tiexeira $22.5M
Sabathia $23M
Tanaka $22M
Ellsbury $21M
McCann $17M
Beltran $15M
Gardner $12M
Prado $11M
Ryan $2.5M
Young $2.5M

However the ones I don't see with a $ amount for 2015 are.........

Nova, Pineda, Phelps, Kelley, Warren, Betances & Greene. Now I know they're not FA so how do there salaries work out?
 
I think Pineda's still pre-arbitration, so he'd be in the 580k range, iirc. I don't know enough about the rest to know which pre-arb year they're in.
 
Phelps, Pineda, Warren, Betances are all in the 500-600k range, depending on their service year. Kelley had a 1.7M contract this year. Can't find Greene and Nova.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Phelps, Pineda, Warren, Betances are all in the 500-600k range, depending on their service year. Kelley had a 1.7M contract this year. Can't find Greene and Nova.
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I know what they earned in 2014 Kelley 1.7M, Nova 3.3M etc but I can't find what they're due in 2015
 
I think he meant "delete the *top* 3". :dunno:
 
totus44 said:
Sure like to delete the to 3....
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We share the exact same thought on this one Tote.....the exact words out of my mouth; as soon as I saw the list. Top 3 be-gone.

1-Put Alex in Jail, or find a legal loophole, (A-Roid seems to be making available) to shit can Alex.

2-Ship Tex back to Tex, for a loss at that. Shit throw in a few lifetime Minor Leaguers to take him, if possible, on top of maybe paying just a small bit of his pay. Tho' that much is impossible, they'd have to eat what about 2/3rds of Tex's due pay, per year, to Texas?

3-CC, shit, give him some strong tranquilizers; with a continuous release, lasting until his contract expires. Find a by law to DFA CC, for no loss, and/or gain his Insurance Losses. Some juice to lose his memory of everything including how to throw a ball. NO WAIT, CC already does just that....who spiked his Kool-Aid? :koolaid::breakdance:
 
Mattingly23NY said:
We share the exact same thought on this one Tote.....the exact words out of my mouth; as soon as I saw the list. Top 3 be-gone.

1-Put Alex in Jail, or find a legal loophole, (A-Roid seems to be making available) to shit can Alex.

2-Ship Tex back to Tex, for a loss at that. Shit throw in a few lifetime Minor Leaguers to take him, if possible, on top of maybe paying just a small bit of his pay. Tho' that much is impossible, they'd have to eat what about 2/3rds of Tex's due pay, per year, to Texas?

3-CC, shit, give him some strong tranquilizers; with a continuous release, lasting until his contract expires. Find a by law to DFA CC, for no loss, and/or gain his Insurance Losses. Some juice to lose his memory of everything including how to throw a ball. NO WAIT, CC already does just that....who spiked his Kool-Aid? :koolaid::breakdance:
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Yeah, $66M dollars. Just think what the Yankees can do with that.
 
Rick2583 said:
Yeah, $66M dollars. Just think what the Yankees can do with that.
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Hell, I'd take 10 percent of that, to sit on the bench the rest of my life too. Maybe play 1st on occasion too. I may be too old to play, but Tex has looked like he's forgotten how to play ball, maybe he's too old too?
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Hell, I'd take 10 percent of that, to sit on the bench the rest of my life too. Maybe play 1st on occasion too. I may be too old to play, but Tex has looked like he's forgotten how to play ball, maybe he's too old too?
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Texeria has blamed his deteriorating performance on advancing "age" for a couple of seasons. As far as I'm concerned they can take that trio and cast them as the new 3 stooges. Heard a disturbing comment on Tampa Bay News 9 that Girardi is elated to see the pharmacist come back. Political correctness hell, tell it like it is, "scumbag we don't want you back" can you imagine Billy Martin as manager awaiting A-holes alleged return.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
Texeria has blamed his deteriorating performance on advancing "age" for a couple of seasons. As far as I'm concerned they can take that trio and cast them as the new 3 stooges. Heard a disturbing comment on Tampa Bay News 9 that Girardi is elated to see the pharmacist come back. Political correctness hell, tell it like it is, "scumbag we don't want you back" can you imagine Billy Martin as manager awaiting A-holes alleged return.
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I think A-Rod & Martin would have killed each other.
 
What I've found so far:

Yanks' projected payroll including guaranteed, est arbitration (MLB Trade Rumors),
.. and options = 186.2 mil

Nova, arbitration 3.3 mil
Pineda, " 2.10
Phelps, " 1.3
Kelley, " 2.5
Warren, pre arb
Betances, "
Greene "
 
blgridesagain said:
What I've found so far:

Yanks' projected payroll including guaranteed, est arbitration (MLB Trade Rumors),
.. and options = 186.2 mil

Nova, arbitration 3.3 mil
Pineda, " 2.10
Phelps, " 1.3
Kelley, " 2.5
Warren, pre arb
Betances, "
Greene "
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Okay, according to this there team payroll for 2014 was $197M. If we're at $186M now its a safe bet to say that we'll exceed last years numbers after a few deals.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/al-east/new-york-yankees/
 
Rick2583 said:
I was trying to get a rough idea as to the Yankees payroll so far for 2015 & the obvious ones total $169M between only 11 players.......

A-Rod $21M
Tiexeira $22.5M
Sabathia $23M
Tanaka $22M
Ellsbury $21M
McCann $17M
Beltran $15M
Gardner $12M
Prado $11M
Ryan $2.5M
Young $2.5M

However the ones I don't see with a $ amount for 2015 are.........

Nova, Pineda, Phelps, Kelley, Warren, Betances & Greene. Now I know they're not FA so how do there salaries work out?
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BrianFromWA said:
Phelps, Pineda, Warren, Betances are all in the 500-600k range, depending on their service year. Kelley had a 1.7M contract this year. Can't find Greene and Nova.
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I'd love to eliminate A-Rod, Tex, CC, and Beltran...

According to http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/al-east/new-york-yankees/ & https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html

Tex = $23.125M ($22.5M + bonus of $0.625M)
CC = $25M
A-Rod = $22M ($21M + $1M bonus paid each January)
Tanaka = $22M
Ellsbury = $21.14285715M
McCann = $17M
Beltran = $15M
Gardner = $12.5M ($12M + $0.5M bonus)
Prado = $11M
Chris Young = $2.5M
Brendan Ryan = $2M
DePaula = ??
Aside from DePaula, this comes to $168,767,857


Nova got $3.3M in 2014 and avoided arbitration
Esmil Rodgers (was re-signed by Toronto last year) got $1.85M in 2014 & avoided arbitration
Kelley got $1.765M in 2014 and avoided arbitration
Phelps got $541,425 in 2014
Pineada got $538,475 in 2014
Warren got $0.5274M in 2014
Justin Wilson got $0.515M in 2014
Huff got $0.505M in 2014
Betances got $0.5021M in 2014
Banuelos = ???
Campos = ???
Preston Claiborne got $511,325 in 2014
Ramon Flores = ???
Shane Greene got $0.5M in 2014
Slade Heathcott = ???
Bryan Mitchell = ???
J.R. Murphy got $0.5027M in 2014
Eury Perez = ???
Jose Pirela = ???
Jose A. Ramirez = ???
Austin Romine got $0.5248M in 2014
Gary Sanchez = ???
Zelous Wheeler = ???
Chase Whitley = ???

And then the minor league kids which I won't type out
 
Hammerojustice said:
I'd love to eliminate A-Rod, Tex, CC, and Beltran...

According to http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/al-east/new-york-yankees/ & https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html

Tex = $23.125M ($22.5M + bonus of $0.625M)
CC = $25M
A-Rod = $22M ($21M + $1M bonus paid each January)
Tanaka = $22M
Ellsbury = $21.14285715M
McCann = $17M
Beltran = $15M
Gardner = $12.5M ($12M + $0.5M bonus)
Prado = $11M
Chris Young = $2.5M
Brendan Ryan = $2M
DePaula = ??
Aside from DePaula, this comes to $168,767,857


Nova got $3.3M in 2014 and avoided arbitration
Esmil Rodgers (was re-signed by Toronto last year) got $1.85M in 2014 & avoided arbitration
Kelley got $1.765M in 2014 and avoided arbitration
Phelps got $541,425 in 2014
Pineada got $538,475 in 2014
Warren got $0.5274M in 2014
Justin Wilson got $0.515M in 2014
Huff got $0.505M in 2014
Betances got $0.5021M in 2014
Banuelos = ???
Campos = ???
Preston Claiborne got $511,325 in 2014
Ramon Flores = ???
Shane Greene got $0.5M in 2014
Slade Heathcott = ???
Bryan Mitchell = ???
J.R. Murphy got $0.5027M in 2014
Eury Perez = ???
Jose Pirela = ???
Jose A. Ramirez = ???
Austin Romine got $0.5248M in 2014
Gary Sanchez = ???
Zelous Wheeler = ???
Chase Whitley = ???

And then the minor league kids which I won't type out
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Steve what am I missing on CC Your link (cots) has him at 23M not 25M. Not that it matters since he's overpaid by about 20M anyway.
 
It's always blown me away how much filthy money these Free Agents get, compared to the Minimum Minor League wage(s)....

I guess that's one reason to have Arbitration. Makes me focus on Miguel Cabrera when he was the Marlins 3rd bagger, and got to arbitration, and got 7 Mil, when he was not even making $472,000...!!!
 
Mattingly23NY said:
It's always blown me away how much filthy money these Free Agents get, compared to the Minimum Minor League wage(s)....

I guess that's one reason to have Arbitration. Makes me focus on Miguel Cabrera when he was the Marlins 3rd bagger, and got to arbitration, and got 7 Mil, when he was not even making $472,000...!!!
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Yeah I hear you Rob. I don't know who decides on these arbitration's but really some of these increases are just ridiculous. Imean if you're making 2M a season & they up you to 4M a season DAMN! that's one helleva raise. But going from 1M to 8M is just plain stupid.


I know its collusion but I've said all along that if a player is looking for 20M dollars & all the owners decided not to go higher then 10M what's the player going to do quit? No, he'd have to settle for the 10M from the team he chooses. But there always seems to be that one asshole owner that says, "Okay, we'll give you the 20M"
 
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Rick2583 said:
Steve what am I missing on CC Your link (cots) has him at 23M not 25M. Not that it matters since he's overpaid by about 20M anyway.
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Both links show $23M for 2015 and $25M for 2016... maybe you were looking at the 2016 #s? But yes, he's definitely over paid
 
I don't know who's really responsible for these exaggerated over blown salaries, I'm guessing much of the blame goes to our own George Stienbrenner & even the A's owner I think his name was Charles Finley but somewhere its really going to kill the game because its getting way out of hand. I'm guessing we're maybe only 10 years away from someone getting 40-50M a year. And the fans are the one's who'll be paying for it. Its a real shame.
 
Rick2583 said:
I don't know who's really responsible for these exaggerated over blown salaries, I'm guessing much of the blame goes to our own George Stienbrenner & even the A's owner I think his name was Charles Finley but somewhere its really going to kill the game because its getting way out of hand. I'm guessing we're maybe only 10 years away from someone getting 40-50M a year. And the fans are the one's who'll be paying for it. Its a real shame.
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I remember reading how George Stein told the Owners in the 74 Season Meetings, Free Agency would cost them all. It would make them dig out their wallets, and George was going to take advantage of the new by-law, which he did pretty effectively in his reign.

As you said, owners rarely can agree to anything. Collusion, not sure its a bad word or process. At times it seem fair to collude. Yet, as you said, there will always be one Owner willing to pay ridiculous prices for Atheletes...!

then those High Priced FA's usually make more on commercials or endorsements, than their Team paychecks, ie Michael Jordan...!
 
Rick2583 said:
I don't know who's really responsible for these exaggerated over blown salaries, I'm guessing much of the blame goes to our own George Stienbrenner & even the A's owner I think his name was Charles Finley but somewhere its really going to kill the game because its getting way out of hand. I'm guessing we're maybe only 10 years away from someone getting 40-50M a year. And the fans are the one's who'll be paying for it. Its a real shame.
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Don't forget Marvin Miller !

Charles O Finley, what a character.
Brought in the first ultra specialist- pinch runner Herb Washington a world class sprinter, remember?
He proposed having ONLY one year contracts and allowing the players to be free agents afterwards which would've (obviously) made them play for their "money" every year. lol
And, imo, his multi-colored/combination uniforms with white shoes and players with facial hair added a healthy spice to the game.
As a fan, I liked Charlie Finley.

Yes, The Boss did bring up the salaries..but he was merely ahead of the curve.
Once the players earned the right to free agency, it was only a matter of time before other/most owners were willing to bid on players in the open market.
And, as Yankee fan, I liked The Boss, alot!
 
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Regarding arbitration would it be considered collusion if it was agreed that arbitration settlements cannot exceed say 30% or even 50%. That would certainly cut down (though only a small degree) on the higher salaries.
 
The money MANY of these players in the mediocre category are making is OBSCENE.
I mean, we're talking about tens and tens of millions of dollars for players who aren't much more than roster fillers/ "roll players".

lmao...I guess it isn't "obscene" if It were me.
BUT- trust me, I can make it on less than 5-30 million per year. lol


I would lean towards promoting "my" better young minor league players much sooner than later and keep my payroll down.
 
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