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It’s funny how little faith there is in anything politics related anymore. No matter what happens on either side, half the country flat out refuses to accept it.

Any history buffs in here?

Remember all those civilizations that got to this point, then everything turned out fine? I’m still trying to find an example.
 
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jonnyboy said:
It’s funny how little faith there is in anything politics related anymore. I would call this country a banana republic but we don’t even have bananas to sell.
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We have a lot of weapons to sell though.
 
Republicans, as a party, have been traveling down this road for generations--making one Faustian bargain after another to add to their coalition. Q Anon is the most embarrassing--remains to be seen how much it hurts them.
 
Good luck with that Marj.
 
Minstrel said:
Republicans, as a party, have been traveling down this road for generations--making one Faustian bargain after another to add to their coalition. Q Anon is the most embarrassing--remains to be seen how much it hurts them.
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That's big picture wisdom, and here's some more. A lawyer is highly-paid to represent his client against the world. For most lawyers, the client is rich, whether corporate or individual. After years of practice in arguing for the rich, he runs for Congress. The average Republican Congressman is a lawyer; the average Democratic one isn't. One side represents the rich, the other, the people. Mercenaries without conscience.
 
I do believe that traitors like Biden should be barred from holding any political office. But impeaching Biden before he even has a chance to do an impeachable offense as President, is about as illogical as it gets.
 
Road Ratt said:
I do believe that traitors like Biden should be barred from holding any political office. But impeaching Biden before he even has a chance to do an impeachable offense as President, is about as illogical as it gets.
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Wait.... wut?
 
Strenuus said:
Wait.... wut?
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Every president beyond Jimmy Carter is a traitor to America.

Sorry if everyone else can't see it.

(America is a lie right in front of our faces, and we don't see it. Actually... Yes, we do. We just see America's problems... as the other parties fault, and move on from there...)
 
Road Ratt said:
Every president beyond Jimmy Carter is a traitor to America.

Sorry if everyone else can't see it.

(America is a lie right in front of our faces, and we don't see it. Actually... Yes, we do. We just see America's problems... as the other parties fault, and move on from there...)
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Jimmy Carter is a good man but as president bowed to pressure from China to remove Taiwan from the United Nations and remove our embassy from the true democracy in Taiwan....Nixon was before Carter and Kennedy was assasinated in office so I think your view of presidential turmoil is a bit skewed timewise.....we've always had problems but they can't be compared with what we're witnessing today in govt...my 2 cents and only my opinion. The age of McCarthyism was one of the most corrupt in our history as well....I grew up in the 50s during that era...Truman could have stopped the cold war before it started but the commie witchhunt fever was really popular then
 
riverman said:
Jimmy Carter is a good man but as president bowed to pressure from China to remove Taiwan from the United Nations and remove our embassy from the true democracy in Taiwan....Nixon was before Carter and Kennedy was assasinated in office so I think your view of presidential turmoil is a bit skewed timewise.....we've always had problems but they can't be compared with what we're witnessing today in govt...my 2 cents and only my opinion. The age of McCarthyism was one of the most corrupt in our history as well....I grew up in the 50s during that era...Truman could have stopped the cold war before it started but the commie witchhunt fever was really popular then
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I am only going from after Jimmy Carter. If we go before Carter, there were plenty of problems. But, Ronald Reagan put America on the path, that it is currently still on, and Trump is the culmination of 40 years of our two-party corruption.

I could point out the corrupt corporate buybacks that Ronald Reagan brought back during his administration. Corporations use them like candy nowadays to "reward" their shareholders. Ronald Reagan started many policies that are still going on to this day, right through two "democrat" presidents. The democrats are fine with it, since they haven't changed America's path. But you can't point out real things to "people with a belief".

If people could talk real, rather than always from a partisan position, people might see how little their party truly cares. But, people can't see from the proper perspective, is my only guess. If we could take away the (D) and (R), than maybe we could end "Team Politics" in America, and fight for America rather than... a team and their agenda.

We live in a sick society, right in front of our eyes. And we have all been conditioned to accept it. If we can't see how sick our society is, and that our government isn't doing anything about it... because they literally don't care. How can any of us possibly claim that we see what is going on in the first place?!?
 
Road Ratt said:
I am only going from after Jimmy Carter. If we go before Carter, there were plenty of problems. But, Ronald Reagan put America on the path, that it is currently still on, and Trump is the culmination of 40 years of our two-party corruption.

I could point out the corrupt corporate buybacks that Ronald Reagan brought back during his administration. Corporations use them like candy nowadays to "reward" their shareholders. Ronald Reagan started many policies that are still going on to this day, right through two "democrat" presidents. The democrats are fine with it, since they haven't changed America's path. But you can't point out real things to "people with a belief".

If people could talk real, rather than always from a partisan position, people might see how little their party truly cares. But, people can't see from the proper perspective, is my only guess. If we could take away the (D) and (R), than maybe we could end "Team Politics" in America, and fight for America rather than... a team and their agenda.

We live in a sick society, right in front of our eyes. And we have all been conditioned to accept it. If we can't see how sick our society is, and that our government isn't doing anything about it... because they literally don't care. How can any of us possibly claim that we see what is going on in the first place?!?
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I worked during a war for Nixon's propoganda machine ...I think I have some perspective on govt corruption and am qualified to talk about it without being clueless about corruption in politics...my view is that since Carter we've had both a black president and black female vice president....something that would never have happened before Carter..in my lifetime that's some major political progress
 
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jonnyboy said:
It’s funny how little faith there is in anything politics related anymore. No matter what happens on either side, half the country flat out refuses to accept it.
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Everyone has their own news sources nowadays. Corporate media news (CNN, MSNBC and Fox) all teach you to hate other peoples viewpoints. So everyone is intolerant of other peoples positions.
 
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Road Ratt said:
Every president beyond Jimmy Carter is a traitor to America.

Sorry if everyone else can't see it.
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I am going to argue that your definition of traitor is different than most. What you call a traitor, I would call a flawed human being, which frankly, is every human being. It is just a measure of how flawed they are.
 
riverman said:
I worked during a war for Nixon's propoganda machine ...I think I have some perspective on govt corruption and am qualified to talk about it without being clueless about corruption is politics...my view is that since Carter we've had both a black president and black female vice president....something that would never have happened before Carter..in my lifetime that's some major political progress
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And yet we still don't see it, from the proper perspective. Most Americans don't see it, at all. We have all been taught wrong perspectives, all of our lives.

America is a lie right in front of our eyes, and both parties are fine with it.

America's biggest lie. America fights for freedom and democracy. Bullshit, America fights for corporations and it's own self interests (And we all know it). And if people can't follow that line of thinking. Follow this: America is the #1 leading seller of weapons around the world. If you are truly fighting for peace, selling weapons to other countries to fight their wars, or any reason should never be on the table. Until people can wake up to America's lies, and that neither party works to correct the problems. They will never see past their own party line.

I woke up to the only factor that matters. The life on this planet (the only planet in the universe with life, far as we know to this point). And now, I literally don't care about either party. I don't care about country, or any monetary value. The human equation is all that matters. If your party isn't working for all Americans and the rest of the humans/life on this planet... they don't care (that might be my severe black and white thinking, but that is the way I see things now).

America has some of the highest rates of homelessness than most any other industrialized nation. The richest country in history, has homeless Americans. Most people wouldn't throw their animals out in the cold, yet we have all been conditioned to accept that America can do nothing about our humans that we consign to living on it's sidewalks?

If we can't see that this is wrong. I think that we have all been blind (just my opinion). :baby:
 
Road Ratt said:
Everyone has their own news sources nowadays. Corporate media news (CNN, MSNBC and Fox) all teach you to hate other peoples viewpoints. So everyone is intolerant of other peoples positions.
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It's not that cut and dried my friend....not everyone is taught their logic or belief system by the mainstream media....certain impressionable personality types are but there are still plenty of people who are smart and draw their own conclusions about filtering the news and keeping it in perspective. I used to argue with Denny here about independent thought and cut and paste arguments....one uses media as an argument...the other uses their own brain and weighs the information around the topic. Creative thinking is a dying concept with the hyper info sharing internet these days....I recommend step one to most people....shut off the tv...the internet I can filter and control....I choose my content...tv just blares at you until you hit the mute button
 
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