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[mrmel29]

After watching my sickening giants grab their 5th defeat from the jaws of victory I've had enough football for today. Looking forward to rangers getting untracked with Kreids getting a hat trick and Big Mac getting his first career goal.

 

[chuckd3534]

Mel's duo....

Need to win tonight. No excuses as this is a back to back for the Sens and we have been off since Thursday and are home. Have a vintage performance and win this game without having to sweat it out late.

 

[chuckd3534]

BTW...Glass is here to stay. AV loves him again and thinks he has played so well in his two games:

Tanner Glass will remain with the Rangers when they leave for their trip to Western Canada this week. (Gross)

Alain Vigneault said that the team may call up an extra defenseman for the trip and if they do it won't be until closer to Wednesday's game so that they can save some money on the salary cap. (Gross)

The Rangers currently have $150,500 in cap space. (Hockey's Cap)

 

[chuckd3534]

On Tanner Glass bringing an edge, "I think that part of winning games is being able to wear the opposition down. You wear them down in different forms, sometimes through great puck management and you never turn it over and you are always making them go back for pucks, sometimes it's about putting the puck in an area where you can finish a few hits and wear some defensemen down. Tanner, no doubt, brings us that physicality. In the two games since he has been back, I liked the one in Brooklyn, I thought they spent some time in the other team's end and they did a pretty good job. In the last game it was a different type of game, in the third period we had 50% of the time in their zone where they had 35% in our zone but we didn't get much out of it. There is no doubt, I have never shied away from saying how I like what he can bring but there still needs to be more there offensively and maybe the fact that he has gotten some big minutes in Hartford and got his hands going, maybe he will be able to help us moving forward."

 

[cagedlion]

Time to get their heads out of their arses and get a W!

 

[Rangers94]

In regards to Glass, it is what it is. Other than a catastrophic injury to Glass, did anyone REALLY think AV wasn't going to call him up to stay at the first chance?? He's AV's boy and AV would play him over Nash I almost feel like. It's ridiculous. To say Glass is going to bring in a forecheck presence is idiotic. He's doing to bring in bad play, an inability to finish in the ozone and awful penalties.

In regards to tonight's game...does anyone miss the net more than Kreider? Jesus. This kid couldn't hit water if he fell off a boat.

 

[Rangers94]

PP looked good there. Good luck movement and they threw it at the net and Kreider actually is right in front of the goalie's eyes for the first time this season.

 

[chuckd3534]

Notice how both of our goals were scored...throwing pucks on net with people in front. Nothing fancy, not trying to be pretty, just shoot the puck on goal and good things can happen. Someone should also tell McIlrath that when he passed up a great chance. SHOOT the puck. Once again the evidence is there.

Excellent 1st period thus far. I like the aggressive way we are playing. I like how the D is playing. I like how McIlrath is jumping into the rush.

Good stuff.

 

[Ranger71]

Man is this an awful shooting team..

 

[chuckd3534]

I think it is mainly Kreider...guy cannot hit the net. How can you miss the net as often as he does...unreal. He actually has a really good shot, but it doesn't mean sh*t because he cannot hit the net.

Rangers need to play in the Sens end more, a lot of play in the Rangers zone in the 2nd with the Rangers getting pinned in for long stretches. Seems like that has been a theme this season.

Big 3rd...cannot afford to lose this game, especially after leading 2-0.

 

[Stepupstepan]

This team just checks out mentally in the second period ALL THE TIME.

 

[chuckd3534]

Excellent 3rd period. Very well played game tonight. Controlled the 1st and 3rd periods. Sens came hard in the 2nd, but that is to be expected I guess since they are a good team which has been playing well.

Overall I would call this a pretty vintage performance despite the hiccup in the 2nd period. Well done, now onto Western Canada. Hopefully we can take 2 of 3 at least.

 

[cagedlion]

Tonight the Rangers beat the Sens in regulation time at MSG.
Last time they did that was in 2009.

Good to see a D man in the scoring column.

Did anyone notice that when Glass got into an altercation,
no Ranger came into the fracas. I thought his team mates
liked him?

A rested Ranger team helped greatly with tonight's outcome.
It was Ottawa who played tired tonight.

Now team goes to Western Canada on winning note.

Wishing them well.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

After watching my sickening giants grab their 5th defeat from the jaws of victory I've had enough football for today. Looking forward to rangers getting untracked with Kreids getting a hat trick and Big Mac getting his first career goal.

what a terrific game J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

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[BigDaddyAl1973]

client gave me 2 row tickets at the game

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[kreidertime]

The Jets f'n suck. The reality is that within 3 years Eli will have his 3rd SuperBowl because the Giants keep getting high draft picks they have no business getting. That will eventually bring them a 3rd title. The Jets will still be looking for a QB and sucking. Once Reese especially is fired, the Giants will put it together. Not until that moron is g0ne. The Giants are a disgrace now. However, with sucking comes high picks.

As far as Glass. He freakin sucks. Gorton must save the team and get rid of this asswipe.

 

[chuckd3534]

The positive from a Giants POV is Coughlin will 100000000% be fired after this season (actually I am sure he will "retire"). And 80% sure Reese will be gone also.

Some of the "decisions" Coughlin has made this season have been terrible...game has passed him by. His call to go for it on 4th and 2 yesterday was one of the worst "decisions" I have ever seen. Single handedly changed the whole game and gave the Jets all the mo.

Better draft pick here we come...how about a LB or a S...LOL.

 

[cagedlion]

^^^^^CBs, LBs, , TE, RBs................oh yeah, how about OT that doesn't get hurt.

 

[mrmel29]

Coughlin gone but mara already sent in the trial balloon thru serby that reese is safe….GOD DAMN IT. So if only coughlin goes we're still stuck with brain dead reese who despite drafting low lately due to the giants suckball record still needs by my count 2 de's, 1dt, 2 linebackers, a safety and a cornerback on defense alone. On offense they need either another guard or tackle especially if they cut ties with beattie, 2 rb's, a te and probably 2 receivers. This team is in full rebuild mode and even though they won't, should consider trading eli for assets and move up and draft their new franchise qb as there are a few out there this year. If reese stays mara will show no balls and giants will continue with their 6-10 to 9-7 records of mediocrity. Thanks for rubbing it in AL You suck!!!

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

The positive from a Giants POV is Coughlin will 100000000% be fired after this season (actually I am sure he will "retire"). And 80% sure Reese will be gone also.

Some of the "decisions" Coughlin has made this season have been terrible...game has passed him by. His call to go for it on 4th and 2 yesterday was one of the worst "decisions" I have ever seen. Single handedly changed the whole game and gave the Jets all the mo.

Better draft pick here we come...how about a LB or a S...LOL.

Giants execute the play and its gsme over. Never mind the fact that they could have gotten a first down, 2 yards we are talking about.
Never mind the fact that the giants defense which should have been as full of energy being they were on the bench for what seemed like an hour, couldnt make 3 stops.
Lets say he kicks and is up 13...what makes you think the jets dont drive...which they did...and score 14 and you never get to OT.
U go up 17 u win.

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[chuckd3534]

You can say that about any play Al. Go for it on 4th and 15 and you can say if you execute the play yada yada yada.

Is was a terrible decision and there is no way to argue it. Kick the FG, keep the mo, pay off a 9 minute drive, and force the Jets to get 2 TD's to win...not just a FG and a TD to tie.

 

[chuckd3534]

All about risk/reward, and if Coughlin weighed that out during the TO the decision is to kick the FG.

The reward is 99% you end the game if you get a TD there. The risk is way greater when you factor in mo, and only needing 10 points, and not paying off a 9 minute drive with any points.

Giants kick a FG there and the Jets have no life. MAYBE they drive the field twice and score 2 TD's to win...possible but not probable. FG gives the Giants a 13 point lead and the Jets stay lifeless as the Giants just took 9 + minutes off the clock and scored points.

Stopping the Giants there on 4th and 2 (not 4th and inches or a 1/2 yard) is the only way the Jets get life at that point and get fired up by the D to get things going.

Risk/reward says you must kick the FG there. Keep the mo, and don't allow the Jets to only need to get to the 35 yard line for one of the two scores they need since one could be a FG if you get stopped on 4th down.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

The jets drive down the field both times, that's on rhe defense. Its not like they tird it on a 52 yrd field goal and a hail mary at the end of the game.
That's all on the pathetic pass defense, the one ranked dead last on nfl.
The one the head coach knows better than anyone else as he put it.

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[chuckd3534]

100% the Giants D is awful, you will get no argument from me. BUT that is even more reason not to potentially give the Jets mo by going for it AND give the Jets the chance to tie it with a TD and a FG rather than needing 2 TD's.

If I don't trust my D I say I need to pay off this drive with points and give the Jets no life AND I need to force the Jets to score 2 TD's and not get an easier road by only needing a FG as one of their scores.

Agree to disagree on this one Al. It was a terrible decision by Coughlin. Take it from a Giants fan who watches all their games...it was a crap decision. But everyone is entitled to their opinions of course. I would say if the Giants kick a FG though I don't think we are having this discussion after a Giants win because there would be nothing to discuss about a ho hum win.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

Kick field goal and u lose by 1pt as defense didnt stop shit.

Agree to disagree

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[chuckd3534]

Agreed. If the Jets never get the mo they got off a 4th down stop they don't score 2 TD's IMO. As it was they only scored 10 points not 13 and that is with the life they got from getting the stop.

All good. Most people think it was a terrible decision and Coughlin has been ripped for it this week, but no doubt the Giants D does stink, so yeah the Jets could have scored 2 TD's and won anyway...certainly possible.