Stepupstepan
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MSL is old and small. Who knows if he scores 30 goals again. I love zucc but you cant have two tiny finesse guys in your top 9.
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I was huge supporter of both Nash and St Louis trades but one thing is consistent w this team past 20 years:
When established vets come to the Rangers they play WORSE here after they come here then before. It's fucking amazing.
When established vets come to the Rangers they play WORSE here after they come here then before. It's fucking amazing.
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Very true, dis.
This organization never learns. It is like beating the dead horse over and over. Build the team for once the right way and not the half ass way.
This organization never learns. It is like beating the dead horse over and over. Build the team for once the right way and not the half ass way.
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Dis nailed it really. It almost seems like no matter what big player we bring in they struggle.
As for MSL we again agree to disagree. 102, 83, 80, 94, 99, 74, 60 (in 48 games), 61 (in 62 games with TB this season).
Those are his point totals year after year. 8 straight big years. If you want to believe it was a bad move to deal Cally, a 1st, and another mid pick for him go right ahead and believe that. Totally your right to feel that way.
I simply disagree 100%. Double so when you understand it was re-sign Cally for 6 years at 6 mill or more per OR deal him. Sather was never going to let him just walk this summer for nothing.
Unless we have a very bad team next season which makes that a top 5-7 pick, which I do NOT see, I think it was a HR deal. On top of that if Cally re-signs in TB we get a 2nd round pick back from them, so we are covered there as well.
It has been 5 games with MSL...5. I like that trade a lot.
As for MSL we again agree to disagree. 102, 83, 80, 94, 99, 74, 60 (in 48 games), 61 (in 62 games with TB this season).
Those are his point totals year after year. 8 straight big years. If you want to believe it was a bad move to deal Cally, a 1st, and another mid pick for him go right ahead and believe that. Totally your right to feel that way.
I simply disagree 100%. Double so when you understand it was re-sign Cally for 6 years at 6 mill or more per OR deal him. Sather was never going to let him just walk this summer for nothing.
Unless we have a very bad team next season which makes that a top 5-7 pick, which I do NOT see, I think it was a HR deal. On top of that if Cally re-signs in TB we get a 2nd round pick back from them, so we are covered there as well.
It has been 5 games with MSL...5. I like that trade a lot.
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Only a moron would have given Callahan that idiotic contract.
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As for Nash, he needs to man up. It is truly amazing how poorly he is playing. Again, outside of that hot 15 games he has really done NOTHING since the playoffs last season. Maybe it is fear of another concussion, but whatever it is he needs to be much better or we are F'd.
That trade has been terrible. The guys who we dealt are performing better than Nash. Plus we gave up picks as well. And a solid young dman in Erixon. And took an important element off the team as well. That one has blown up in our faces no doubt.
That trade has been terrible. The guys who we dealt are performing better than Nash. Plus we gave up picks as well. And a solid young dman in Erixon. And took an important element off the team as well. That one has blown up in our faces no doubt.
Ok, I will be the voice of reason. We are still making the playoffs and once in we will be a tough out for someone. I like Kreids switching to richards and St. Louis line and hope AV lets them play together a little. Need to get off nash, step line. Biggest problem to me outside of currently not scoring goals again is the lack of physicality of our defense in clearing and for that matter even trying to clear the crease. Don't know why management is not seeing this and could use big mac up here to help take care of that. We are still too pass happy on offense and need to take good shots when we have them and not look for the sports center highlight play. I still think we will be fine.
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I think we get in still as well, win tonight please, but we are not a legit SC threat. That's just reality IMO.
This team can def be a legit SC contender this year. We are have some obvious flaws, but so do the other teams. Other than the B's, who i think are a terrific team, i don't see anyone in the West that i don't think we can beat. Fleury will meltdown like he usually does in the playoffs so i don't expect much out of PIT, but perhaps i'm underrating them. But after PIT and BOS there's no one out there that's really good. No one. Of course, for us to make a run we need MSL, Nash and Henrik to play up to or near the usual levels.
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At this point the way they are playing. I don't think they would even beat either Montreal or Toronto in 7 game series.
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This team is far too inconsistent to think they're going to go on a sustained run in the playoffs.
Step, just need to get in and you have the best goalie in the playoffs. With guys like nash, St.Louis, zucc, kreider you have firepower there that if clicking will be tough for any team to handle. The playoffs are always a crapshoot and anyone can win if you get in.
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This team has zero chance of beating Boston or Pitt in a seven game series. That's just reality that has to be faced. The rest is all matchup dependent.
Right, i think BOS and PIT are the top teams, though i'm not a full buyer on the Pens b/c of Fleury, but i think the B's are a great all-around team. However, the B's went on a deep run last year, so if you get them this year in the ECF's maybe you catch them with tired legs.
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Funny thing is, despite the fact we have had back to back 1 goal games, I am more concerned about the D. After the big 3 I don't love our D.
I think Stralman is a 6th dman.
I like Moore, but he is also a clear 3rd pair guy, and toughness clear the net wise is soft.
I would say the same thing about Klein as well. A little tougher, and to me he'd be the 4th dman with Staal, but still more of a 3rd pair guy.
I REALLY worry about this D in the playoffs against good deep teams, especially if they are big and physical. I think we'll get pounded on D.
That is my way bigger concern than upfront believe it or not.
I think Stralman is a 6th dman.
I like Moore, but he is also a clear 3rd pair guy, and toughness clear the net wise is soft.
I would say the same thing about Klein as well. A little tougher, and to me he'd be the 4th dman with Staal, but still more of a 3rd pair guy.
I REALLY worry about this D in the playoffs against good deep teams, especially if they are big and physical. I think we'll get pounded on D.
That is my way bigger concern than upfront believe it or not.
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With that all being said, you get into the playoffs and anything can happen. I have said this for a while, but you want that 2 spot in the Met division. With that spot we get home ice round 1, and avoid Pitt/Boston for sure.
These games are ALL huge now. We need 2 points tonight. If we lose that leaves us in a tough spot. With games in hand Philly could move 5 ahead of us. With games in hand CBJ can move 4 ahead of us. That is a lot of points with only 14 games left for us after tonight.
On top of that we have very tough SJ next on a 44 hour turnaround after we fly across the country after the game tonight, meanwhile SJ is in the area already playing the Isles tonight.
I think tonight is a huge 2 points for us.
These games are ALL huge now. We need 2 points tonight. If we lose that leaves us in a tough spot. With games in hand Philly could move 5 ahead of us. With games in hand CBJ can move 4 ahead of us. That is a lot of points with only 14 games left for us after tonight.
On top of that we have very tough SJ next on a 44 hour turnaround after we fly across the country after the game tonight, meanwhile SJ is in the area already playing the Isles tonight.
I think tonight is a huge 2 points for us.
