Rank the Top 10 NBA PGs.............

[THE HCP]

Watching this Raptors vs Rockets game and it just looks like Lin was a "flash in the pan" as my pops would say. Wondering what your rankings are since our up and coming star is a PG. Not looking at stats, here are mine......

DWill
CP3
Rose
Rondo
Westbrook
Tony Parker
Dame
Irving
Wall
Holiday

 

[THE HCP]

shit...... I forgot about Nash and Lowry.

 

[handiman]

Seven seems about right for Lillard. That's exactly where I pegged him when thinking about it recently. But, that top-6 is a complete crap shoot. And no way is DWill #1. He should be at the bottom of that top tier, even with Parker.

 

[THE HCP]

Seven seems about right for Lillard. That's exactly where I pegged him when thinking about it recently. But, that top-6 is a complete crap shoot. And no way is DWill #1. He should be at the bottom of that top tier, even with Parker.

You could make an argument for who the top 5 could be. Those guys are all about the same. You aren't a DWill fan? Had you told me our pick from this past draft would be a top 10 PG a month into this season, I would have thought you were crazy though.

 

[Darkwebs]

CP3
Rondo
D-Will
Westbrook
Rose (if he comes back to form)
Lowry
Irving
Nash
Parker
Conley Jr.

 

[THE HCP]

CP3
Rondo
D-Will
Westbrook
Rose (if he comes back to form)
Lowry
Irving
Nash
Parker
Conley Jr.

You'd take all those guys over Dame right now to start for us tomorrow night?

 

[MickZagger]

I love Lillard and all. Think he can be top 3 PG possibly someday. But, there is now way you can put him ahead of Irving right now.

Also, Holliday has been playing great this year. He's still ahead of Lillard.

Lillard has to prove himself more.

 

[handiman]

You could make an argument for who the top 5 could be. Those guys are all about the same. You aren't a DWill fan? Had you told me our pick from this past draft would be a top 10 PG a month into this season, I would have thought you were crazy though.

I like Deron, but he's not the game changer he was 4 years ago. All those other guys in the top 6 dominate nightly.

I was firmly on the Lillard bandwagon over the summer, but I agree, I probably wouldn't have predicted top-10 status this early. I certainly didn't figure he'd be making us forget about Nash already.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I love Lillard and all. Think he can be top 3 PG possibly someday. But, there is now way you can put him ahead of Irving right now.

Also, Holliday has been playing great this year. He's still ahead of Lillard.

Lillard has to prove himself more.

All of this seems imminently reasonable and far too reserved to have come from a Blazers fan.

 

[Darkwebs]

You'd take all those guys over Dame right now to start for us tomorrow night?

I think it's too early to judge Damian right now. He needs to prove he can be this good for at least a year. He's only played 14 NBA games. Look at Lin last year, when he played over a month of great ball and now he just looks average.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I think it's too early to judge Damian right now. He needs to prove he can be this good for at least a year. He's only played 14 NBA games. Look at Lin last year, when he played over a month of great ball and now he just looks average.

It's going to be easier to determine where Lillard fits by the end of the season: right now, the Blazers are 1-8 when Lillard's ORtg is below his DRtg (the win against the Lakers where they lost Nash after a half). Basically, if he gets outplayed by his opposition, we lose. If he outplays them, we win. From there we can kind of determine his floor as a point guard based on the worst PG who he outplayed.

 

[THE HCP]

I love Lillard and all. Think he can be top 3 PG possibly someday. But, there is now way you can put him ahead of Irving right now.

Also, Holliday has been playing great this year. He's still ahead of Lillard.

Lillard has to prove himself more.

Oh, i love Kyrie's game...... I just think Dame is more under control. (Didn't look at head to head stats) just my opinion.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I'm surprised there has been no mention of Dragic. He has been playing great this year.

The truth is the PG position is very deep.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Lillard was top-10 before his last two bombs.

 

[KingSpeed]

Rondo
Rondo
Rondo
Rose at 100%
Nash (if same as last year)
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Damian Lillard
Russell Westbrook
********************

Jrue Holliday
Kyrie Irving
Jeremy Lin
Kyle Lowry

 

[mook]

It's pretty stunning how many high quality point guards there are in this league now. A decade ago it seemed like there was Kidd and Payton, and a pretty steep dropoff to Andre Miller and Bibby and me-first guys like Steve Francis and Marbury.

I don't feel like I've watched enough of the current crop of PG's to truly evaluate them against Lillard. I would venture to say that Damian may have the most complete game of all but a couple of those guys. He's got size, speed, perimeter shooting, passing, athleticism....he still defends like a rookie and he lacks NBA experience, but those are less concerning holes in comparison to, say, Westbrook's me-first attitude or Rondo's perimeter shot or Nash's age or Rose's health.

 

[RR7]

As 2 have mentioned now, PG is relatively deep. I mentioned that a while back, someone talking about how it's the most difficult position to fill. A top 10 list of PGs looks SOOOO much better than a top 10 list of SGs, IMO. Hell, probably a top 15 list of PGs.

 

[KingSpeed]

As 2 have mentioned now, PG is relatively deep. I mentioned that a while back, someone talking about how it's the most difficult position to fill. A top 10 list of PGs looks SOOOO much better than a top 10 list of SGs, IMO. Hell, probably a top 15 list of PGs.

Which leads us to...

http://sportstwo.com/threads/225335-Rank-the-Top-10-SGs?p=2901590#post2901590

 

[craigehlo]

Rondo
CP3
Westbrook
Rose
Parker
Irving
Wall
Lowrey
Jennings
Conley

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Rondo
CP3
Westbrook
Rose
Parker
Irving
Wall
Lowrey
Jennings
Conley

No Deron?

 

[MickZagger]

Lowry's not even the starter in Toronto. How is he top 10?

 

[THE HCP]

Rondo
CP3
Westbrook
Rose
Parker
Irving
Wall
Lowrey
Jennings
Conley

You don't have DWill in your top 10?

 

[RR7]

Lowry's not even the starter in Toronto. How is he top 10?

I don't think he's top 10, but he's started 8 of the 9 games he's played in, with the only game off the bench after he missed two weeks. Yes, he is the starter.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

It's hard to rank a top 10....I think it's easier to rank guys in Tiers (in no order)

Tier 1
CP3
Rondo
Rose
Deron

Tier 2
Irving
Parker
Westbrook

Tier 3
Nash
Lowry
Lillard
Wall
Dragic
Rubio
Jennings
Conley
Holliday
Curry
Lawson

Tier 4
Mo Will
Jeff Teague
Kemba Walker
George Hill
Jeremy Lin

Lillard could jump up to Tier 2 by next year if he keeps this up imo.

There are so many good PG's in the league right now.

 

[NOVoodoo]

It's pretty stunning how many high quality point guards there are in this league now. A decade ago it seemed like there was Kidd and Payton, and a pretty steep dropoff to Andre Miller and Bibby and me-first guys like Steve Francis and Marbury.

I don't feel like I've watched enough of the current crop of PG's to truly evaluate them against Lillard. I would venture to say that Damian may have the most complete game of all but a couple of those guys. He's got size, speed, perimeter shooting, passing, athleticism....he still defends like a rookie and he lacks NBA experience, but those are less concerning holes in comparison to, say, Westbrook's me-first attitude or Rondo's perimeter shot or Nash's age or Rose's health.

I was noticing that. I clicked on this thread to see where everyone had Mike Conley. I figured that he'd probably crack most top 10's, figuring that he was #11 in apg, #2 in spg, and very efficient, but after looking at the lists, he's got to be on the outside looking in. The league went from a very shallow PG pool to a very deep PG pool seemingly overnight. It seems like it was just yesterday that the most valuable asset a team could have was a good floor-general type PG, but I guess every team has one nowadays.

It's hard to rank a top 10....I think it's easier to rank guys in Tiers (in no order)

I actually agree with your assessment and your tiers 100%. The only thing I might change would be dropping John Wall to Tier 4, just because I hate his style of play and think he'd be much better off at the two, like a less talented version Westbrook. However, with his talent level, I guess you have to put him in at least Tier 3, just like you have to at least have Westbrook in Tier 2.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Rajon Rondo
Chris Paul
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Steve Nash
Kyrie Irving
John Wall
Ty Lawson

Mike Conley
Goran Dragic
Jrue Holliday
Brandon Jennings


Lillard comes in right after that, IMO

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Funny how many people have forgotten Stephen Curry. And Jeff Teague, who is kicking ass for Atlanta. And remember when Tyreke Evans was ROY at PG? And there's also Brandon Knight, who looked pretty damn good against Lillard, and Darren Collison (who's dropped off a cliff recently, but looked great at the start of the season), and Brandon Jennings (looking more like the rookie version) and George Hill, who displaced Collison, and who looked pretty good against the Lakers. If you rank the PGs by PER, here's what you get:

1	Chris Paul, LAC	14	34.7	.577	36.7	9.4	22.5	2.1	10.5	6.5	24.43	97.4	3.2
2	Jimmer Fredette, SAC	12	9.4	.646	15.2	11.4	25.3	1.0	4.3	2.6	23.28	20.7	0.7
3	Eric Bledsoe, LAC	14	18.9	.584	20.1	14.2	24.1	9.2	8.8	9.0	23.26	48.3	1.6
4	Kyle Lowry, TOR	9	32.8	.563	25.6	10.0	23.9	3.4	19.4	10.9	22.89	52.3	1.7
5	Goran Dragic, PHX	15	32.9	.593	30.8	10.1	22.0	3.2	7.4	5.2	22.73	86.3	2.9
6	Russell Westbrook, OKC	15	35.9	.512	26.7	9.1	29.4	4.6	9.9	7.5	22.33	91.0	3.0
7	Jason Kidd, NY	12	26.1	.761	36.6	7.1	11.1	1.8	12.8	7.2	21.32	48.2	1.6
8	Rajon Rondo, BOS	13	38.5	.552	46.9	11.3	20.9	2.0	13.5	7.8	21.02	74.8	2.5
9	Kyrie Irving, CLE	10	35.2	.567	18.7	13.7	29.4	1.6	11.9	6.3	20.37	49.2	1.6
10	Tony Parker, SA	14	31.9	.521	27.4	8.2	26.6	1.4	9.8	5.8	20.03	60.2	2.0
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
11	Mike Conley Jr., MEM	11	33.7	.599	30.0	13.3	20.8	1.9	8.3	5.1	19.79	48.7	1.6
12	Deron Williams, BKN	13	35.8	.521	31.9	11.0	25.9	2.0	7.8	4.9	19.71	60.4	2.0
13	Brandon Jennings, MIL	12	35.7	.485	27.2	8.2	23.5	1.6	8.5	4.9	19.50	54.3	1.8
14	Jeff Teague, ATL	12	30.6	.551	31.9	13.2	23.2	1.9	8.1	5.1	19.00	43.8	1.5
15	Damian Lillard, POR	14	36.8	.566	23.4	12.5	24.2	1.9	9.0	5.2	18.97	61.2	2.0
16	Ramon Sessions, CHA	13	28.5	.503	17.9	9.0	27.0	2.1	13.3	7.5	18.69	42.6	1.4
17	Jrue Holiday, PHI	15	38.5	.535	29.5	14.3	26.1	2.3	8.6	5.4	18.28	62.7	2.1
18	Tyreke Evans, SAC	14	32.4	.527	18.8	10.7	21.8	2.7	16.3	9.2	17.95	47.0	1.6
19	Brian Roberts, NO	13	14.6	.553	24.0	9.7	24.5	1.9	4.9	3.4	17.86	19.5	0.6
20	Beno Udrih, MIL	11	18.5	.523	28.6	12.6	22.1	3.3	14.4	8.7	17.64	20.2	0.7
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
21	Raymond Felton, NY	13	33.5	.491	28.4	9.9	24.6	1.8	7.3	4.5	16.92	38.4	1.3
22	Nate Robinson, CHI	13	21.5	.534	22.1	11.6	25.4	2.1	10.4	6.2	16.85	24.5	0.8
23	Kemba Walker, CHA	13	36.9	.481	22.4	9.7	23.0	2.3	9.1	5.6	16.79	41.5	1.4
24	Jose Calderon, TOR	15	30.3	.548	40.6	10.4	18.6	1.5	7.1	4.1	16.75	39.0	1.3
25	Jerryd Bayless, MEM	12	17.4	.559	26.9	13.5	21.1	0.6	8.5	4.6	16.34	16.7	0.6
26	Monta Ellis, MIL	12	35.3	.476	17.9	10.2	27.1	1.8	8.6	5.1	15.81	30.3	1.0
27	Mo Williams, UTAH	12	32.6	.502	28.8	10.7	22.5	2.3	5.6	3.9	15.80	28.0	0.9
28	Alexey Shved, MIN	13	22.9	.496	26.0	10.7	22.0	3.4	9.5	6.5	15.40	19.6	0.7
29	Darren Collison, DAL	15	32.7	.526	29.8	12.1	20.2	0.7	6.7	3.8	15.37	31.9	1.1
30	Shannon Brown, PHX	15	22.9	.508	14.3	9.1	24.0	2.3	8.8	5.4	15.36	22.3	0.7
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
31	George Hill, IND	15	35.1	.503	25.1	9.5	20.2	2.2	10.1	6.2	15.25	33.4	1.1
32	Greivis Vasquez, NO	13	33.4	.505	34.4	14.1	24.7	1.4	12.5	7.1	14.97	25.7	0.9
33	Andre Miller, DEN	15	25.3	.541	33.2	15.3	19.2	4.4	8.2	6.3	14.93	22.2	0.7
34	Jose Juan Barea, MIN	8	20.5	.495	32.0	13.0	22.5	4.8	12.4	8.6	14.77	9.2	0.3
35	Gary Neal, SA	13	21.5	.580	15.3	9.7	18.4	1.7	13.3	7.8	14.64	15.2	0.5
36	Jameer Nelson, ORL	7	33.1	.507	28.2	12.1	20.7	2.0	12.9	7.7	14.41	11.8	0.4
37	Luke Ridnour, MIN	13	31.5	.526	26.4	9.7	17.6	1.7	9.1	5.4	14.06	18.7	0.6
38	Ty Lawson, DEN	15	36.5	.460	29.8	12.5	21.9	2.9	4.7	3.8	14.02	24.7	0.8
39	Sebastian Telfair, PHX	15	17.3	.478	27.9	8.8	18.2	2.6	9.8	6.0	13.55	9.9	0.3
40	Jarrett Jack, GS	14	24.6	.513	31.3	11.1	18.0	0.7	12.0	6.5	13.54	13.1	0.4
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
41	Aaron Brooks, SAC	14	21.7	.558	21.5	7.2	15.8	1.8	8.3	5.0	13.53	11.5	0.4
42	Jeremy Lin, HOU	14	33.9	.460	30.5	14.0	19.0	2.6	12.2	7.5	12.87	13.3	0.4
43	Brandon Knight, DET	15	31.6	.543	27.9	16.0	21.5	1.2	12.0	6.6	12.60	11.3	0.4
44	Randy Foye, UTAH	15	24.7	.561	12.7	8.5	18.7	0.9	4.4	2.6	12.52	8.4	0.3
45	A.J. Price, WSH	12	29.9	.468	31.3	10.1	18.5	2.4	10.0	6.0	12.18	6.3	0.2
46	Isaiah Thomas, SAC	12	20.4	.560	17.5	16.8	20.7	2.3	5.4	3.8	12.04	3.8	0.1
47	Mario Chalmers, MIA	13	26.4	.501	35.5	13.0	15.0	0.8	10.8	6.1	12.02	5.2	0.2
48	C.J. Watson, BKN	13	20.4	.478	21.1	10.5	18.1	4.4	2.2	3.3	11.78	3.1	0.1
49	Jeremy Pargo, CLE	8	24.0	.511	19.5	13.8	22.1	1.7	7.5	4.3	11.64	1.8	0.1
50	Patrick Mills, SA	13	11.5	.543	17.0	17.0	19.5	3.3	8.1	5.8	11.51	1.1	0.0

 

[Mediocre Man]

Funny how many people have forgotten Stephen Curry. And Jeff Teague, who is kicking ass for Atlanta. And remember when Tyreke Evans was ROY at PG? And there's also Brandon Knight, who looked pretty damn good against Lillard, and Darren Collison (who's dropped off a cliff recently, but looked great at the start of the season), and Brandon Jennings (looking more like the rookie version) and George Hill, who displaced Collison, and who looked pretty good against the Lakers. If you rank the PGs by PER, here's what you get:

1	Chris Paul, LAC	14	34.7	.577	36.7	9.4	22.5	2.1	10.5	6.5	24.43	97.4	3.2
2	Jimmer Fredette, SAC	12	9.4	.646	15.2	11.4	25.3	1.0	4.3	2.6	23.28	20.7	0.7
3	Eric Bledsoe, LAC	14	18.9	.584	20.1	14.2	24.1	9.2	8.8	9.0	23.26	48.3	1.6
4	Kyle Lowry, TOR	9	32.8	.563	25.6	10.0	23.9	3.4	19.4	10.9	22.89	52.3	1.7
5	Goran Dragic, PHX	15	32.9	.593	30.8	10.1	22.0	3.2	7.4	5.2	22.73	86.3	2.9
6	Russell Westbrook, OKC	15	35.9	.512	26.7	9.1	29.4	4.6	9.9	7.5	22.33	91.0	3.0
7	Jason Kidd, NY	12	26.1	.761	36.6	7.1	11.1	1.8	12.8	7.2	21.32	48.2	1.6
8	Rajon Rondo, BOS	13	38.5	.552	46.9	11.3	20.9	2.0	13.5	7.8	21.02	74.8	2.5
9	Kyrie Irving, CLE	10	35.2	.567	18.7	13.7	29.4	1.6	11.9	6.3	20.37	49.2	1.6
10	Tony Parker, SA	14	31.9	.521	27.4	8.2	26.6	1.4	9.8	5.8	20.03	60.2	2.0
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
11	Mike Conley Jr., MEM	11	33.7	.599	30.0	13.3	20.8	1.9	8.3	5.1	19.79	48.7	1.6
12	Deron Williams, BKN	13	35.8	.521	31.9	11.0	25.9	2.0	7.8	4.9	19.71	60.4	2.0
13	Brandon Jennings, MIL	12	35.7	.485	27.2	8.2	23.5	1.6	8.5	4.9	19.50	54.3	1.8
14	Jeff Teague, ATL	12	30.6	.551	31.9	13.2	23.2	1.9	8.1	5.1	19.00	43.8	1.5
15	Damian Lillard, POR	14	36.8	.566	23.4	12.5	24.2	1.9	9.0	5.2	18.97	61.2	2.0
16	Ramon Sessions, CHA	13	28.5	.503	17.9	9.0	27.0	2.1	13.3	7.5	18.69	42.6	1.4
17	Jrue Holiday, PHI	15	38.5	.535	29.5	14.3	26.1	2.3	8.6	5.4	18.28	62.7	2.1
18	Tyreke Evans, SAC	14	32.4	.527	18.8	10.7	21.8	2.7	16.3	9.2	17.95	47.0	1.6
19	Brian Roberts, NO	13	14.6	.553	24.0	9.7	24.5	1.9	4.9	3.4	17.86	19.5	0.6
20	Beno Udrih, MIL	11	18.5	.523	28.6	12.6	22.1	3.3	14.4	8.7	17.64	20.2	0.7
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
21	Raymond Felton, NY	13	33.5	.491	28.4	9.9	24.6	1.8	7.3	4.5	16.92	38.4	1.3
22	Nate Robinson, CHI	13	21.5	.534	22.1	11.6	25.4	2.1	10.4	6.2	16.85	24.5	0.8
23	Kemba Walker, CHA	13	36.9	.481	22.4	9.7	23.0	2.3	9.1	5.6	16.79	41.5	1.4
24	Jose Calderon, TOR	15	30.3	.548	40.6	10.4	18.6	1.5	7.1	4.1	16.75	39.0	1.3
25	Jerryd Bayless, MEM	12	17.4	.559	26.9	13.5	21.1	0.6	8.5	4.6	16.34	16.7	0.6
26	Monta Ellis, MIL	12	35.3	.476	17.9	10.2	27.1	1.8	8.6	5.1	15.81	30.3	1.0
27	Mo Williams, UTAH	12	32.6	.502	28.8	10.7	22.5	2.3	5.6	3.9	15.80	28.0	0.9
28	Alexey Shved, MIN	13	22.9	.496	26.0	10.7	22.0	3.4	9.5	6.5	15.40	19.6	0.7
29	Darren Collison, DAL	15	32.7	.526	29.8	12.1	20.2	0.7	6.7	3.8	15.37	31.9	1.1
30	Shannon Brown, PHX	15	22.9	.508	14.3	9.1	24.0	2.3	8.8	5.4	15.36	22.3	0.7
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
31	George Hill, IND	15	35.1	.503	25.1	9.5	20.2	2.2	10.1	6.2	15.25	33.4	1.1
32	Greivis Vasquez, NO	13	33.4	.505	34.4	14.1	24.7	1.4	12.5	7.1	14.97	25.7	0.9
33	Andre Miller, DEN	15	25.3	.541	33.2	15.3	19.2	4.4	8.2	6.3	14.93	22.2	0.7
34	Jose Juan Barea, MIN	8	20.5	.495	32.0	13.0	22.5	4.8	12.4	8.6	14.77	9.2	0.3
35	Gary Neal, SA	13	21.5	.580	15.3	9.7	18.4	1.7	13.3	7.8	14.64	15.2	0.5
36	Jameer Nelson, ORL	7	33.1	.507	28.2	12.1	20.7	2.0	12.9	7.7	14.41	11.8	0.4
37	Luke Ridnour, MIN	13	31.5	.526	26.4	9.7	17.6	1.7	9.1	5.4	14.06	18.7	0.6
38	Ty Lawson, DEN	15	36.5	.460	29.8	12.5	21.9	2.9	4.7	3.8	14.02	24.7	0.8
39	Sebastian Telfair, PHX	15	17.3	.478	27.9	8.8	18.2	2.6	9.8	6.0	13.55	9.9	0.3
40	Jarrett Jack, GS	14	24.6	.513	31.3	11.1	18.0	0.7	12.0	6.5	13.54	13.1	0.4
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
41	Aaron Brooks, SAC	14	21.7	.558	21.5	7.2	15.8	1.8	8.3	5.0	13.53	11.5	0.4
42	Jeremy Lin, HOU	14	33.9	.460	30.5	14.0	19.0	2.6	12.2	7.5	12.87	13.3	0.4
43	Brandon Knight, DET	15	31.6	.543	27.9	16.0	21.5	1.2	12.0	6.6	12.60	11.3	0.4
44	Randy Foye, UTAH	15	24.7	.561	12.7	8.5	18.7	0.9	4.4	2.6	12.52	8.4	0.3
45	A.J. Price, WSH	12	29.9	.468	31.3	10.1	18.5	2.4	10.0	6.0	12.18	6.3	0.2
46	Isaiah Thomas, SAC	12	20.4	.560	17.5	16.8	20.7	2.3	5.4	3.8	12.04	3.8	0.1
47	Mario Chalmers, MIA	13	26.4	.501	35.5	13.0	15.0	0.8	10.8	6.1	12.02	5.2	0.2
48	C.J. Watson, BKN	13	20.4	.478	21.1	10.5	18.1	4.4	2.2	3.3	11.78	3.1	0.1
49	Jeremy Pargo, CLE	8	24.0	.511	19.5	13.8	22.1	1.7	7.5	4.3	11.64	1.8	0.1
50	Patrick Mills, SA	13	11.5	.543	17.0	17.0	19.5	3.3	8.1	5.8	11.51	1.1	0.0

I totally forgot Curry

 

[Wizard Mentor]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/pg/sort/VORPe

Lillard looks good from an "ESTIMATED WINS ADDED" POV.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

His "Value Added" gives him a rank of 6th too.