Read: The Rangers In The Low End Of The Team Prospect Rankings

[chuckd3534]

Hockey’s Future has ranked the Rangers 27th overall in their rankings of NHL farm systems.

They say that the Rangers strengths are having various prospects who look to be able to fill different roles at the NHL level.

They say that the Rangers lack depth at each position, the defense is in need of a puck mover and there is no prospect who has shown the potential to be a starting goalie.

HF does say that prospects Anthony Duclair and Pavel Buchnevich are high-potential prospects but at this point they are projects

 

[chuckd3534]

Not saying I buy this, but I wonder why they have us rated so low? Seems a little odd to me.

 

[Ranger71]

They have good depth, but no 1st line prospects or impact offensive dmen. Skjei and Andersson should be solid pros, but I'm still not sold on McIlrath. Guys like Kristo, Nieves, Buchnevich, Duclair have pretty good offensive potential but aren't stars in the making most likely. I'd think they'd be in the16-20 range just based on the overall quality but I guess with no real all-star type they penalized them. They desperately need a puck mover in the system, which is why they should deal with someone like Colorado(Elliott, Barrie)Phoenix(Rundblad)or maybe Winnipeg(Morrisey). Teams with an excess of offensive dmen who you might be able to add into the system. I really like Elliot's game, I think he'll be better than DZ, er Del "Dopo".
I'm not including CK or Miller who I don't really consider prospects since they've been up now. Kreider certainly has top line ability. They mention no goalie in the system, could Talbot shock everyone and become an NHL starter and fetch a good return?

 

[Ranger71]

Not saying I buy this, but I wonder why they have us rated so low? Seems a little odd to me.

Not that HF ratings matter, but I think it's because alot of teams top 5-6 prospects are higher end, though the Rangers probably have better depth than most.

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't see why this thread would be deleted.

Carry on.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Because it's stupid crap from a dumb site that is run by morons. HF was built by polesmokers who hate NY.

 

[Denny Crane]

But our guys are posting their brilliant analysis in response.

 

[Ranger71]

27th lol..that's only 2 spots ahead of the Devils and Flyers, who have a god awful system.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

I take nothing HF says seriously. They hate the Rangers and always have. They basically ignored McDonagh, Girardi, Callahan, Dubinsky, Del Zotto, Stepan, Hagelin, Lundqvist, Anisimov, Miller, ect.. the entire time. Like some of those guys or not, they are all in the NHL getting a ton of ice time other than Miller who is in the NHL at 20.

 

[Ranger71]

I'm surprised they're that low, with the overall depth even w/o any major starts on the horizon. I'd figure maybe 20-24 range.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

Dump it is funny how you bash other sites. ..wfan...and brooks all the time. .. but you still go back to them. . For what just entrainment?

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[dumpstralmannow]

Pretty much. It's funny to see stupidity. I'm easily amused by the dumb trade offers on HF. It's mind boggling. One moron Rangers fan had us giving up MDZ, Stepan and Staal for E. Kane. LMAO!

 

[jamsim67]

They have good depth, but they never get that one great player who can QB ( I hate saying QB) and make the other players on the ice that much better. You don't get the high draft picks when you constantly make the playoffs as the 7th or 8th seed. You get that one player, and everybody on the ice with him will be scoring more goals.

Avery could have been that player (or close to it), but it more was important for him to act like a total azz clown ... what a waste of a career.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Avery never had that ability. He was a role player. Nash has that ability. When he joined the team, Stepan was above a PPG after a slow start even with Torts dumb system.

 

[jamsim67]

Avery maybe? However I won't dispute it, because what's the point? But you can't deny that he did have skills that he let go to waste, as he preferred to turn the game into his own private circus.

As for Nash, he has trouble creating for himself and needs a more complete team around him in order for him to be more successful. Now granted I am basing my opinion on last years team, with Tort's as the coach. Who knows how he will perform once he makes it out on the ice with this team. I hope he proves me wrong.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Nash has no trouble creating for himself. Gimme a break. The guy took over about 12 third periods by himself last year. Against the Kings this year, he won the game by himself. He completely dominated the Kings.

 

[Disturbed]

Nash has no trouble creating for himself. Gimme a break. The guy took over about 12 third periods by himself last year. Against the Kings this year, he won the game by himself. He completely dominated the Kings.

Yep. Nash is like the only player on this team who can create on his own

 

[truebluefan]

I take nothing HF says seriously. They hate the Rangers and always have. They basically ignored McDonagh, Girardi, Callahan, Dubinsky, Del Zotto, Stepan, Hagelin, Lundqvist, Anisimov, Miller, ect.. the entire time. Like some of those guys or not, they are all in the NHL getting a ton of ice time other than Miller who is in the NHL at 20.

You may not....but dont tread on what others want to say. We dont censor any site.

Mods opinion should never be absolute. I agree with Denny this thread should have never been closed.

Dumpy we talked via pm before I found out about this thread.

As I said in the pm...you would not want another mod to do you this way.

 

[truebluefan]

Pretty much. It's funny to see stupidity. I'm easily amused by the dumb trade offers on HF. It's mind boggling. One moron Rangers fan had us giving up MDZ, Stepan and Staal for E. Kane. LMAO!

Is this remnants from ESPN atmosphere? You may not like the trade offers, but you should never censor someone else for posting them.

As for moron Ranger fans. it is ok to have that idea or thought, it is another thing to call them morons on a public board. How can you edit anyone in good faith ever again if they see you calling some other Ranger fans morons? Think about it. You can't edit anyone honestly because you do the same thing.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

We are all used to dump calling us morons. I am a bit surprised that this talk about what should be edited/deleted and what shouldn't. ..isn't there a mod forum to discuss? Usually outsiders never hear mod talks.

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[mrmel29]

Maybe its me but I could care less what any site says when they denigrate our farm. However, if their positive I'm all ears. LOL

 

[Puckmeat]

I'm used to everyone else bashing Ranger fans, it seems like a motif that's been around since before I was a fan, and that's pushing 25 years now. As for dump, him calling people morons is just his way, really, lol. I don't think he means any real harm by it, besides, that person who suggested that trade is a moron, no doubt about it.

I can't speak for the modding, but he's always been this way since I started posting on the ESPN boards, and it probably stems from that place being so god awful, with no moderation to speak of. I can relate to that, there where some absolute morons over there, to the point where a few members had multiple accounts to trash talk us with themselves. It was really bad, I actually called ESPN to have them do something about it, there was some seriously anti-Semitic action going on. They, of course, did nothing. I, of course, was really glad when this board came about.

 

[theProdigy223]

Disagree with the idea that Nash has trouble creating his own chances. Nash is one of the only guys we've have here in awhile who can do that on a consistent basis. Gaborik, as much as I stuck up for him, was a guy who often had trouble making his own chances. He was more of a sniper and his game depended on finding open space and having someone get him the puck. He was ineffective when teams stuck to him and didn't let him get open. Nash has the size and puck handling ability to create his own space.

 

[Denny Crane]

We are all used to dump calling us morons. I am a bit surprised that this talk about what should be edited/deleted and what shouldn't. ..isn't there a mod forum to discuss? Usually outsiders never hear mod talks.

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We're pretty open about how we do things here.

As a rule, we pretty much let people post what they want, where they want.

The ideal is to not have friction between mods and the posters. A LOT of trust in the poster. Side with the poster.

 

[jamsim67]

Disagree with the idea that Nash has trouble creating his own chances. Nash is one of the only guys we've have here in awhile who can do that on a consistent basis. Gaborik, as much as I stuck up for him, was a guy who often had trouble making his own chances. He was more of a sniper and his game depended on finding open space and having someone get him the puck. He was ineffective when teams stuck to him and didn't let him get open. Nash has the size and puck handling ability to create his own space.

Like Gaborik, Nash when blanketed defensively, has trouble creating for himself. More scorers consistent scoring, means he's watched less and much better scoring chances.

 

[cagedlion]

Rangers top farm team scores goals like the parent club..........0 goals.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Nash has no trouble creating his own chances. You obvious watch the games drunk with a hat pulled over your eyes.