Religion and Faith. Difference?

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I have been reading all this religious stuff on this site and it is very interesting. But nothing has been mentioned about faith. I would just like to hear what you guys have to say on the difference between religion and faith.
 
interesting point. I've come to the realization that all religion is, is the practice of faith. different religions may have different origins, different traditions, but it all leads up to one thing. Faith in their God.
 
<span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">That's why Atheists prosper. We get to spend our Sunday mornings in bed or doing some sort of interesting activity, while you religious, church-going/Allah-praying/little-boy-touching (Catholics) people spend your days praying to something that doesn't exist.Anyway, I don't really see a difference between religion and faith. However, not everything you have faith in is something you pray to, right? But, then again, if you have faith in something, you believe in it, just as most do for religion.</span>
 
No, Religion is ruining Faith.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Oct 25 2006, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">That's why Atheists prosper. We get to spend our Sunday mornings in bed or doing some sort of interesting activity, while you religious, church-going/Allah-praying/little-boy-touching (Catholics) people spend your days praying to something that doesn't exist.Anyway, I don't really see a difference between religion and faith. However, not everything you have faith in is something you pray to, right? But, then again, if you have faith in something, you believe in it, just as most do for religion.</span></div>Dude, you should really watch what you say and show some respect for our beliefs. But I think alotve religion is surrounded with faith, but religions such as Hinduism dont require much faith. But to be a monotheistic believer you have to have faith.
 
All religion is is faith. I agree with Ill, really. I don't see the point in "worshipping" something that can't be proven to exist.
 
Yeah but thats the point of faith. But there has been stuff found around the world or areas in which the Bible/Torah/Koran took place that helps prove the Bible/Torah/Koran somewhat right.Also, there something I would like yall to read if your up to it. Its called "The Case for Christ", basically its written by this guy who set out to prove the God/Jesus never existed and he was atheist obvisously. But while trying to do so, ended up converting to christianity. Heres the amazon.com linkLinkSummary
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Oct 25 2006, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">That's why Atheists prosper. We get to spend our Sunday mornings in bed or doing some sort of interesting activity, while you religious, church-going/Allah-praying/little-boy-touching (Catholics) people spend your days praying to something that doesn't exist.Anyway, I don't really see a difference between religion and faith. However, not everything you have faith in is something you pray to, right? But, then again, if you have faith in something, you believe in it, just as most do for religion.</span></div>how is this why "atheists prosper"? you're points are horrible. praying to something that doesn't exist? you're being naive.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah but thats the point of faith. But there has been stuff found around the world or areas in which the Bible/Torah/Koran took place that helps prove the Bible/Torah/Koran somewhat right.</div>Historically speaking those books are usually correct, in terms of things which are believable such as in city locations and even actualy events like the fall of Jerico, and the Philistein invasion and defeat. But it doesn't prove or disprove the existance of God, all it proves is that the people of that time were recording events.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Oct 26 2006, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OK prove right now god exists. You're praying to something non-existant.</div>Prove right now that God doesn't exist.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Oct 26 2006, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OK prove right now god exists. You're praying to something non-existant.</div>For those who think you need to see something to believe in it, there are plenty of signs that there is a God. If the world around you, the nature, the complex way your body works isn't enough - there is STILL evidence that God exists. In the Qur'an, which was revealed thousands of years ago, there is science in it. As in explicit details to things that could have never been known or discovered at the time. Things that we are discovering today have been in the Qur'an forever. How about how a baby is made, in full detail. That means how sperm fertalizes the egg, how the zygote develops into a fetus, and how the fetus develops into an infant. Or, how about the Universe and how it is either expanding or contracting. How the hell would they know that - Quantum Physics thousands of years ago...Explanation of things that you simply would not be able to know back than...if that other evidene isn't enough for you, than that might prove something.I'll give you the exact links to the scientific chapters in the Qur'an if you want.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Oct 25 2006, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">That's why Atheists prosper. We get to spend our Sunday mornings in bed or doing some sort of interesting activity, while you religious, church-going/Allah-praying/little-boy-touching (Catholics) people spend your days praying to something that doesn't exist.Anyway, I don't really see a difference between religion and faith. However, not everything you have faith in is something you pray to, right? But, then again, if you have faith in something, you believe in it, just as most do for religion.</span></div>Illosophee you a true and complete idiot if you say that. the term ATHEISM itself originated in France, yes the home of the catholic religion, so basically its found by a bunch of idiots of who probably didnt agree witht he priests and decided to begin a religion. while CHRISTIANITY is baised on an actual God, who saved people, and created the christian religions you see before you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Oct 26 2006, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For those who think you need to see something to believe in it, there are plenty of signs that there is a God. If the world around you, the nature, the complex way your body works isn't enough - there is STILL evidence that God exists. In the Qur'an, which was revealed thousands of years ago, there is science in it. As in explicit details to things that could have never been known or discovered at the time. Things that we are discovering today have been in the Qur'an forever. How about how a baby is made, in full detail. That means how sperm fertalizes the egg, how the zygote develops into a fetus, and how the fetus develops into an infant. Or, how about the Universe and how it is either expanding or contracting. How the hell would they know that - Quantum Physics thousands of years ago...Explanation of things that you simply would not be able to know back than...if that other evidene isn't enough for you, than that might prove something.I'll give you the exact links to the scientific chapters in the Qur'an if you want.</div>I think STS is going to avoid this thread for the rest of his life....I said earlier that Religion is ruining Faith, even though someone said that Faith is ruining religion. You don't go to church for your religion. You go for Faith. What matters is having a strong connection with God.
 
No I'm not. Perhaps someone a long time ago was smart. If Newton hadn't defined gravity, we still probably wouldn't understand it or even think about it. Someone has to think of it somewhere.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Oct 25 2006, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">That's why Atheists prosper. We get to spend our Sunday mornings in bed or doing some sort of interesting activity, while you religious, church-going/Allah-praying/little-boy-touching (Catholics) people spend your days praying to something that doesn't exist.Anyway, I don't really see a difference between religion and faith. However, not everything you have faith in is something you pray to, right? But, then again, if you have faith in something, you believe in it, just as most do for religion.</span></div>Don't talk as if what you think is a fact. it's very annoying when people do, I hope you know that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Becar @ Oct 26 2006, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Prove right now that God doesn't exist.</div>Prove right now that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist.
 
Faith is a personal matter of believing in something spiritual. Religion is a business venture.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1331 @ Oct 27 2006, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Faith is a personal matter of believing in something spiritual. Religion is a business venture.</div>And that's the final word.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1331 @ Oct 27 2006, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Faith is a personal matter of believing in something spiritual. Religion is a business venture.</div>Never heard it put that way, but thats right on.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Oct 26 2006, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For those who think you need to see something to believe in it, there are plenty of signs that there is a God. If the world around you, the nature, the complex way your body works isn't enough - there is STILL evidence that God exists. In the Qur'an, which was revealed thousands of years ago, there is science in it. As in explicit details to things that could have never been known or discovered at the time. Things that we are discovering today have been in the Qur'an forever. How about how a baby is made, in full detail. That means how sperm fertalizes the egg, how the zygote develops into a fetus, and how the fetus develops into an infant. Or, how about the Universe and how it is either expanding or contracting. How the hell would they know that - Quantum Physics thousands of years ago...Explanation of things that you simply would not be able to know back than...if that other evidene isn't enough for you, than that might prove something.I'll give you the exact links to the scientific chapters in the Qur'an if you want.</div>wow, never really thought about that, just strengthens by belief even more.
 
You would actually be surprised what the ancients knew. a lot ot technologies were lost in the "dark ages". There is some evidence that the Greeks and Romans knew about human reproduction to a scale that modern societies didn't know until the mid 20th century. The ancients also knew a lot more about astronomy than we here in the present give them credit for. the Egyptians knew so much about it that they lined the Pyramids up with the stars. These are people who didn't have light pollution so they could truly see the stars, and if you see something for generation after generation people begin to understand it more and more. sometimes you lose knowledge with technology.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Oct 26 2006, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No I'm not. Perhaps someone a long time ago was smart. If Newton hadn't defined gravity, we still probably wouldn't understand it or even think about it. Someone has to think of it somewhere.</div>I think that God knew about that, but was a "for me to know, for you to find out" thing.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Faith is a personal matter of believing in something spiritual. Religion is a business venture.</div> :dribble: That's my point exactly.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Oct 26 2006, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Illosophee you a true and complete idiot if you say that. the term ATHEISM itself originated in France, yes the home of the catholic religion, so basically its found by a bunch of idiots of who probably didnt agree witht he priests and decided to begin a religion. while CHRISTIANITY is baised on an actual God, who saved people, and created the christian religions you see before you.</div><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">First and foremost, I don't understand what "you a true and complete idiot" means. Did you mean "you're a true and complete idiot" or what? Secondly, I believe only the A in Atheism and the C in Christianity are supposed to be capitalized.. Not the entire word, moron.Third, you forgot the ' in didn't. Next, Mr. RaptorFan#1, you did not capitalize the t in "The" after your first sentence in which you claimed that "you a true..." You put a period before "while CHRISTIANITY". You put an I in based. You forgot the comma after you stated my name: "Illosophee, you a true..." Here, allow me to correct your entire post:</span><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Oct 26 2006, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Illosophee, you're a true and complete idiot if you say that. The term Atheism itself originated in France. Yes, France, the home of the Catholic religion. So basically it was found by a bunch of idiots <strike>of</strike> who probably didn't agree with the priests and decided to begin a religion, while Christianity is based on an actual God, who saved people, and created the Christian religion<strike>s</strike> you see before you.</div>
 
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