Report: Nuggets to trade Melo

[Chuck Taylor]

I wonder if we should go after him? Either way, this should weaken Denver.

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...00826/report_nuggets_preparing_to_trade_melo/

 

[Chuck Taylor]

wojo's piece on the subject:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ai73H_tujop9vMfwahQtaOe8vLYF?slug=aw-anthonynuggets082610

 

[Pinwheel1]

If they are really wanting to start over....go for Chauncey. I would put it at about 5% max that Melo and his wife would re-sign in Portland.

Hopefully he goes to NJ

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Wojo's article says he wants to sign the extension now, presumably before the CBA expires. So, in the unlikely event that Portland trades for him, they would probably be doing so with Melo's consent to sign an extension.

I know he's good....but he's also a punk. I hope he goes to the Clippers and makes the NW division title a little easier to obtain.

 

[RoyToy]

The WC is really opening up for the Blazers to make a run next season.

For some reason I actually have a good feeling going into next season. Just a feeling.

 

[oldmangrouch]

We keep hearing that they are ready to trade Melo, Smith, and Martin...but they never talk about Billups. Given his age, it would make no sense to keep him if they are actually going to blow the team up.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2dvgan7

 

[MickZagger]

Melo doesn't want Portland and I don't want Melo.

 

[Natebishop3]

Melo doesn't want Portland and I don't want Melo.

I don't really care for Melo either... but if we could get him without giving up too much, he would give us a scoring dynamic that would be hard to rival. I'd give up Aldridge, Batum, and Joel for Melo.

Kenyon Martin on the other hand I could not stand to have on this team. I think he is one of the biggest tools in the league.

 

[Minstrel]

If it were a sign-and-trade, or the Nuggets gave Portland permission to negotiate an extension with Melo prior to making the trade, I'd be interested in him...it would then depend on the price in trade.

 

[MickZagger]

I dislike Melo because I think he's an idiot, it has nothing to do with his playing. There's some guys around the league that I hate the thought of me having to root for chance that player became a Blazer. Melo is one of them.

 

[barfo]

Melo is Qyntel with talent.

barfo

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Melo is Qyntel with talent.

barfo

This.

 

[Mediocre Man]

This is when it would be nice to have a front office in place that was capable of making trades.

 

[Blazer_Mullet_Man]

I'd rather not see him in a Blazer uniform...ever.

No way I'd give up LA or Batum.

 

[julius]

This is when it would be nice to have a front office in place that was capable of making trades.

Why? So we could trade too many good players for 1 player and pretty much be in the same boat we are now?

Trading for Anthony doesn't solve anything, nor make things better (due to the cost). Let someone else dilute themselves into thinking he's going to lead them to a title with Amare' Stoudemire.

 

[mook]

Normally I'm all for going after elite superstar talent. But the new era where superstars get to dictate when they leave really gives me pause, especially with a guy like Melo.

What happens if a year after we trade for him he decides he hates Portland and wants out? If he goes public with a trade demand a year after signing his huge contract, we'll either have to live with him bitching to the media for years, or we unload him for less value (because the next team will be even less eager to give up real value for him).

Hopefully we'd be competitive enough that he wouldn't demand a trade, but I think you have to consider it a distinct possibility.

Besides, I still think our best hope of beating the Lakers and Miami is for Oden to become a dominant center. I'd rather see a more "glue" type player at SF who hits three pointers with extremely high efficiency.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If they are really wanting to start over....go for Chauncey.

Agreed. I wonder if the change in ownership and Melo's bridge-burning makes a Billups trade less unlikely. If they're blowing everything up, though, they'll want expirings and valuable picks. Which we don't have. But if we sent Rudy to Boston as part of the trade, they could send a pick to Denver...

The team that gets Anthony must also be prepared to take on bad Denver contracts (like Kenyon Martin) and also JR Smith. Charlotte has a great chip in Erick Dampier's disappearing contract.

 

[Natebishop3]

Normally I'm all for going after elite superstar talent. But the new era where superstars get to dictate when they leave really gives me pause, especially with a guy like Melo.

What happens if a year after we trade for him he decides he hates Portland and wants out? If he goes public with a trade demand a year after signing his huge contract, we'll either have to live with him bitching to the media for years, or we unload him for less value (because the next team will be even less eager to give up real value for him).

Hopefully we'd be competitive enough that he wouldn't demand a trade, but I think you have to consider it a distinct possibility.

Besides, I still think our best hope of beating the Lakers and Miami is for Oden to become a dominant center. I'd rather see a more "glue" type player at SF who hits three pointers with extremely high efficiency.

Sounds like someone of Spanish origins....

 

[Masbee]

I wonder if we should go after him? http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...00826/report_nuggets_preparing_to_trade_melo/

This ground has already been coverered. Twice I think.

To recap:

Melo is unlikely to have any interest in Portland. That pretty much ends everything right there. But we will trudge on anyway.

Denver will trade Melo to the East. Only way a West team gets him is to vastly overpay for him.

Portland would be stupid ten times over to pay a whole lot to Denver to get him as that won't improve the team, just change it.

Portland already has a good first-option scorer who doesn't play much defense. The talents of Roy and Melo overlap too much to add big value in wins produced.

Thus, Blazer fans that say we should "make a run" at Melo, are in the end advocating trading Roy for Melo, and that idea is nuts.

 

[mook]

Sounds like someone of Spanish origins....

Funny, I hadn't even thought of that. Carmelo is far, far more talented but he's also far, far more costly. So it's Rudy Fernandez with much more risk/reward.

If we didn't have Oden, I'd roll the dice on that risk. But with so many of my hopes pinned on him, I'm less willing to take other major risks.

 

[hasoos]

Say what you want, but Melo is one of the few guys I have seen get the better of Lebron James in head to head competition. He seems to be the one guy that Lebron has problems dealing with.

I also agree go after Billups. He is the piece we really want off that team. He would bring "completion" to the team.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

This ground has already been coverered. Twice I think.

To recap:

Melo is unlikely to have any interest in Portland. That pretty much ends everything right there. But we will trudge on anyway.

Yes, it is unlikely, but has no bearing on whether or not we should call the Nuggets and feel out the situation. Obviously, if Melo says he isn't interested, forget about it. But I wouldn't keep my phone on the hook because Melo is "unlikely to have any interest in Portland".

Denver will trade Melo to the East. Only way a West team gets him is to vastly overpay for him.

link? I'm sure they would prefer to move him to the East, but my guess is the talent they get in return is a higher priority.

Portland would be stupid ten times over to pay a whole lot to Denver to get him as that won't improve the team, just change it.

Depending on what we give up, I think it could significantly improve the team.

Portland already has a good first-option scorer who doesn't play much defense. The talents of Roy and Melo overlap too much to add big value in wins produced.

You could say the same thing about Lebron & Wade, and most experts predict the Heat make it to the finals.

Thus, Blazer fans that say we should "make a run" at Melo, are in the end advocating trading Roy for Melo, and that idea is nuts.

This statement is only true if you agree with the opinion you stated above, which I respectfully do not.

 

[maxiep]

Melo doesn't want Portland and I don't want Melo.

What's funny is that he's a partner in the health club to which I belong. The basketball court and scoreboard has Melo's logo on it. Oopsie.

 

[maxiep]

If I were New Orleans, I would offer Paul for him.

 

[maxiep]

Don't kid yourself; Melo is going to sign an extension before the new CBA, because if he doesn't, he's fucked. Kroenke knows this simple fact and will use it to his advantage.

 

[Masbee]

Yes, it is unlikely, but has no bearing on whether or not we should call the Nuggets and feel out the situation. Obviously, if Melo says he isn't interested, forget about it. But I wouldn't keep my phone on the hook because Melo is "unlikely to have any interest in Portland".

I will start with the top.

Ummm, how do you propose this be done?

Melo is currently under contract.

Portland can't contact him directly. That would be tampering.

They can contact Denver and ask what it would take to trade for Melo, but to what end?

They can contact Denver ank ask them if Melo might be interested in Portland and Denver will say, "we have been supplied a list of teams Melo wanted to be traded to by his people. There were two teams on it. We complained and they now have provided us with an expanded list of teams they will consider. The list is still small, and you are not on either list."

There you have it. We are not on the list.

We can't contact Melo directly to "woo" him and convince him and his people they are missing out on being in an even smaller city than Denver, with an even smaller TV audience, even more removed and remote from the rest of the country, as far away as you can get and still be an NBA city, with a fan base that is FAR FAR less tolerant of knucklehead, imperfect, wannabe gangbanger prima-donna's like Melo, that despite all that Portland is perfect for him.

Yeah, that effort on the part of Portland is not a waste of time in the least. It won't make them seem clueless or out-of-touch at all.

 

[Masbee]

You could say the same thing about Lebron & Wade, and most experts predict the Heat make it to the finals.

LeBron is more of a natural playmaker than any of those guys.

LeBron is a better defender.

LeBron is better than Melo. Better than Roy. Being better makes up for the duplication that Wade and LeBron have.

 

[barfo]

Well, Portland could call teams X, Y, and Z who might have an interest in Melo but don't seem to have the proper parts to acquire him, and try to arrange a 3-way where they get Melo and we get something from them, and Denver gets stuff from us.

barfo

 

[Chuck Taylor]

I will start with the top.

Ummm, how do you propose this be done?

Melo is currently under contract.

Portland can't contact him directly. That would be tampering.

They can contact Denver and ask what it would take to trade for Melo, but to what end?

They can contact Denver ank ask them if Melo might be interested in Portland and Denver will say, "we have been supplied a list of teams Melo wanted to be traded to by his people. There were two teams on it. We complained and they now have provided us with an expanded list of teams they will consider. The list is still small, and you are not on either list."

There you have it. We are not on the list.

We can't contact Melo directly to "woo" him and convince him and his people they are missing out on being in an even smaller city than Denver, with an even smaller TV audience, even more removed and remote from the rest of the country, as far away as you can get and still be an NBA city, with a fan base that is FAR FAR less tolerant of knucklehead, imperfect, wannabe gangbanger prima-donna's like Melo, that despite all that Portland is perfect for him.

Yeah, that effort on the part of Portland is not a waste of time in the least. It won't make them seem clueless or out-of-touch at all.

I don't think calling to see if we are "on the list" or if Melo would consider Portland is a waste of time. I think any responsible GM should look into any situation like this, where a star could potentially be had on the cheap.