Response to Police Brutality

[44Thrilla]

[video=youtube;Qdxh-KaSBSg]

how do you feel about the crowd's response to these cops?

 

[bluefrog]

It's hard to see what's going on with the police crowded over the guy. It looks like he gets a few jabs with a baton but I can't really comment on if it was necessary.

What country is this? These people reacted very quickly. It's interesting how reluctant Americans are to getting involved (except for that incident in Seattle and we all know how THAT ended up for one unlucky young lady) We'll video tape it and post it online but rarely will we intervene.

The police officers' actions don't even look that bad compared to video that comes out of the U.S. Look up "Police Brutality" on youtube and you'll find a lot worse.

 

[MARIS61]

They're hired security, not police officers. I would expect providing security at soccer games is more dangerous than being a police officer. Soccer fans are notoriously barbaric Neanderthals possessing a complete inablility to hold their liquor. Trampling women and children to death is just their way of saying "Both teams played hard".

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...ampede-hospitalizes-15-people-police-say.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69M1XP20101023

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2009/03/30/soccer-stampede-update.html

http://www.sptimes.com/News/041201/Worldandnation/Soccer_stampede_kills.shtml

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=81108&page=1

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/world/2001-05-09-ghana-stampede.htm

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-10/...ede-soccer-game-three-police-cars?_s=PM:WORLD

also:

--June 23, 1968, Buenos Aires, Argentina: 74 killed when soccer fans try to leave stadium by closed exit and are crushed by others.

--March 12, 1988, Katmandu, Nepal: At least 93 killed and more than 100 injured when soccer fans fleeing a hailstorm stampede into locked stadium exits.

--April 15, 1989, Sheffield, England: 95 crushed to death when police opened gates to alleviate crowding at soccer match.

--June 16, 1996, Lusaka, Zambia: Nine soccer fans crushed to death and 78 others injured during a stampede.

 

[Ed O]

One moron was spoiling the game for hundreds (thousands?) and deserved to get beat down when he got caught.

The morons who ran onto the pitch ruined the rest of the game for everyone else.

Ed O.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

One moron was spoiling the game for hundreds (thousands?) and deserved to get beat down when he got caught.

The morons who ran onto the pitch ruined the rest of the game for everyone else.

Ed O.

That is fucking ridiculous. Running on a field with a sign = forced to the ground and beaten repeatedly? That's not right AT ALL.

 

[LameR]

Responding to violence with violence isn't a good course of action.

The dude running was an idiot. I couldn't tell if he was resisting/squirming/whatever when he was getting jabbed. I don't speak that language, so I don't know what the person doing the voice-over was saying, but is it possible to rule-out that the second guy just being an idiot as well rather than trying to help that person on the ground? It IS a soccer game in a foreign country. The list above shows how they can get out of hand.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

They're hired security, not police officers. I would expect providing security at soccer games is more dangerous than being a police officer. Soccer fans are notoriously barbaric Neanderthals possessing a complete inablility to hold their liquor. Trampling women and children to death is just their way of saying "Both teams played hard".

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...ampede-hospitalizes-15-people-police-say.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69M1XP20101023

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2009/03/30/soccer-stampede-update.html

http://www.sptimes.com/News/041201/Worldandnation/Soccer_stampede_kills.shtml

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=81108&page=1

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/world/2001-05-09-ghana-stampede.htm

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-10/...ede-soccer-game-three-police-cars?_s=PM:WORLD

also:

--June 23, 1968, Buenos Aires, Argentina: 74 killed when soccer fans try to leave stadium by closed exit and are crushed by others.

--March 12, 1988, Katmandu, Nepal: At least 93 killed and more than 100 injured when soccer fans fleeing a hailstorm stampede into locked stadium exits.

--April 15, 1989, Sheffield, England: 95 crushed to death when police opened gates to alleviate crowding at soccer match.

--June 16, 1996, Lusaka, Zambia: Nine soccer fans crushed to death and 78 others injured during a stampede.

Kenya, Ghana, South Africa, Nepal, Zambia... Great examples, Maris.

 

[Bob Dobalina]

It's interesting how reluctant Americans are to getting involved (except for that incident in Seattle and we all know how THAT ended up for one unlucky young lady) We'll video tape it and post it online but rarely will we intervene.

I'd venture to guess that it had at least as much to do with the fact that these "officers" did not have guns!

 

[agoo]

I can't tell where that is from the jersies. It looks like the news logo in the corner says "noticias" which would make me think this was in a South American country, but I don't know for sure.

As for the question posed, this is a horrible response to police brutality. You're basically creating an unnecessary and unsafe condition for the cops/security, the dope who ran on the pitch, the players, and the other staff out there. Also, as stated by LameR, violence doesn't solve violence.

 

[44Thrilla]

If the crowd came down and just scared the cops away, it would have been awesome. Some of them were allowed to run away unscathed. But the people who physically harmed the cops crossed the line.

 

[RR7]

We'll show you it's bad to hit someone when out numbered by.....outnumbering you and hitting you. What a bunch of idiot fans. Guy should have allowed himself to be handcuffed after being caught.

 

[44Thrilla]

lol how do you know he wasn't allowing them to? You can't tell by the video.

 

[RR7]

Just assuming by the four of them struggling with him. It's not like they immediately started hitting him with the club when they got on him.

 

[Ed O]

That is fucking ridiculous. Running on a field with a sign = forced to the ground and beaten repeatedly? That's not right AT ALL.

I think it's entirely fair.

If there are 20,000 people in the stands, and he wasted five minutes... that's 100,000 minutes. That's over three months of lost time.

Ed O.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

I think it's entirely fair.

If there are 20,000 people in the stands, and he wasted five minutes... that's 100,000 minutes. That's over three months of lost time.

Ed O.

This guy clearly hasn't had to stop at a red light.

 

[BrianFromWA]

It would be fitting if everyone on the video who assaulted the police (rent-a-cop?) spent the same amount of time in prison as the guy with the green laser. I guess it's easier to be a macho cop-kicker if there's a dozen of you.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Well security certainly didn't difuse the situation.

Lots of things to blame for this, but I wouldn't want a society where people felt free to approach and take physical force on law enforcement.

 

[44Thrilla]

Agreed, but I also don't want a society where law enforcement is free to do whatever they feel like, which is pretty much what we have currently.

 

[MARIS61]

To let oneself willingly be caught up in a mob attack on defenseless victims is the move of a weak-spined coward.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Agreed, but I also don't want a society where law enforcement is free to do whatever they feel like, which is pretty much what we have currently.

I don't think it is like that here.

I bet if you talk to police officers they will tell you how restricted they are. Which is generally true, citeznes have lots of constitutional rights that if violated could get the officer prosecuted or sued.

As in any profession, there are bad seeds in the profession. But I doubt a majority of the police feel like they can do whatever they feel like.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Well security certainly didn't difuse the situation.

Lots of things to blame for this, but I wouldn't want a society where people felt free to approach and take physical force on law enforcement.

Nobody wants that. Then again, nobody should be scared of the law enforcement and the cops in the States are some of the most intimidating.

Still, they don't have shit on Thailand.