...retiring Pettitte's jersey # ?

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With Bernie and Posada perhaps in the future. Put Jeter out there and be done with it.
 
Messiah717 said:
With Bernie and Posada perhaps in the future. Put Jeter out there and be done with it.
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I too think the Yanx have got out of control retiring more jerseys than necessary in some cases. With Pettitte alone, it would seem redundant, tho' he had some of the best Post Season Numbers of any Pitcher(s)....and was a big game Pitcher no doubt.....

Yet, I like the idea of lumping all 4 of the backbone of the Yanx for those 1990 thru the 2009 era. Jeter, Mo', Posada, Pettitte, and of course add Bernie. Bernies contributions for those great 90s W.S. Games and Championships were pretty integral to their success. IMO.
 
all core four plus Bernie getting retired...enough is enough...Bernie is my favorite player of all time but come on, retired numbers should really be about the greatest of the greats...lifetime Yankee HOFers IMO. Want to recognize them and have a day..have a plaque..fine..but to take the number out of circulation is just dumb and smells like a money grab
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
all core four plus Bernie getting retired...enough is enough...Bernie is my favorite player of all time but come on, retired numbers should really be about the greatest of the greats...lifetime Yankee HOFers IMO. Want to recognize them and have a day..have a plaque..fine..but to take the number out of circulation is just dumb and smells like a money grab
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Holy crap a BigAl sighting. Welcome back. And like I said, it started getting out of hand once they retired Reggie's number.
 
Rick2583 said:
Holy crap a BigAl sighting. Welcome back. And like I said, it started getting out of hand once they retired Reggie's number.
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thanks.....ive ventured over here now and then...when I heard they are retiring all the numbers I figured I see what you guys would say
 
One of the more exciting games I've seen in a while tonight. Yes, screw the Islanders. As for Pettitte, Posada and Bernie I love them but retiring all their numbers to me is just a bit much.
 
Messiah717 said:
One of the more exciting games I've seen in a while tonight. Yes, screw the Islanders. As for Pettitte, Posada and Bernie I love them but retiring all their numbers to me is just a bit much.
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I'm okay with a plaque for these players but retiring the #s is just to much.
 
If it were up to me, about 1/2 these numbers would still be available;



1 Billy Martin August 10th, 1986
2 Derek Jeter ????
3 Babe Ruth June 13th, 1948
4 Lou Gehrig July 4th, 1939**
5 Joe DiMaggio April 18th, 1952
6 Joe Torre August 23, 2014
7 Mickey Mantle June 8th, 1969
8 Yogi Berra July 22nd, 1972
8 Bill Dickey July 22nd, 1972
9 Roger Maris July 22nd, 1984*
10 Phil Rizzuto August 4th, 1985
15 Thurman Munson September 20th, 1980
16 Whitey Ford August 3rd, 1974
23 Don Mattingly August 31st, 1997
32 Elston Howard July 22nd, 1984*
37 Casey Stengel August 8th, 1970
42 Mariano Rivera September 22, 2013
44 Reggie Jackson August 14th, 1993
49 Ron Guidry August 23rd, 2003
46 Andy Pettitte ?????
 
I heard in addition to Andy Pettitte, they'll be retiring Posada's & Bernie's numbers too
 
yankeesince59 said:
If it were up to me, about 1/2 these numbers would still be available;



1 Billy Martin August 10th, 1986
2 Derek Jeter ????
3 Babe Ruth June 13th, 1948
4 Lou Gehrig July 4th, 1939**
5 Joe DiMaggio April 18th, 1952
6 Joe Torre August 23, 2014
7 Mickey Mantle June 8th, 1969
8 Yogi Berra July 22nd, 1972
8 Bill Dickey July 22nd, 1972
9 Roger Maris July 22nd, 1984*
10 Phil Rizzuto August 4th, 1985
15 Thurman Munson September 20th, 1980
16 Whitey Ford August 3rd, 1974
23 Don Mattingly August 31st, 1997
32 Elston Howard July 22nd, 1984*
37 Casey Stengel August 8th, 1970
42 Mariano Rivera September 22, 2013
44 Reggie Jackson August 14th, 1993
49 Ron Guidry August 23rd, 2003
46 Andy Pettitte ?????
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I count 7 that I wouldn't have retired,

#1 - Billy Martin - Good Mgr but seriously his revolving door for the job became a joke. = Plaque only.
#9 - Roger Maris - 1961. Yes a great accomplishment but one or two great seasons shouldn't entitle you to such an honor. = Plaque only
#10 - Phil Rizzuto - Over 50 years with the team & just a fun broadcaster. = Plaque only.
#23 - Don Mattingly - I'm on the fence here, yes a lifetime Yankee & 5-6 years where he was untouchable but, is that enough? = Plaque only
#32 - Elston Howard - If I'm being honest I think he's only there because he was the first black player for the Yankees. Sorry but = Plaque only
#44 - Reggie Jackson - 3 good years & one great WS game, Sorry but not enough. This was a joke. = Not even a plaque.
#49 - Ron Guidry - A lifetime Yankee but like Mattingly, not enough. = Plaque only
 
Rick2583 said:
I count 7 that I wouldn't have retired,

#1 - Billy Martin - Good Mgr but seriously his revolving door for the job became a joke. = Plaque only.
#9 - Roger Maris - 1961. Yes a great accomplishment but one or two great seasons shouldn't entitle you to such an honor. = Plaque only
#10 - Phil Rizzuto - Over 50 years with the team & just a fun broadcaster. = Plaque only.
#23 - Don Mattingly - I'm on the fence here, yes a lifetime Yankee & 5-6 years where he was untouchable but, is that enough? = Plaque only
#32 - Elston Howard - If I'm being honest I think he's only there because he was the first black player for the Yankees. Sorry but = Plaque only
#44 - Reggie Jackson - 3 good years & one great WS game, Sorry but not enough. This was a joke. = Not even a plaque.
#49 - Ron Guidry - A lifetime Yankee but like Mattingly, not enough. = Plaque only
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...I'd also add Stengel's #37 to that list.

...and I'm sure I'll get heat about it, but I'd add #42 for Jackie...retire it for Mo?...yeah, probably. But I'm sorry, MLB mandating that every team retire Robinson's # is simply admitting what we already know, which is that MLB was wrong in excluding blacks from the game.
 
Billy Martin was a damn good ball player in his Yankee Years, he liked to raise a little hell but the man wanted to win and he pulled off some pretty good plays when crunch time arrive. When he was traded to Kansas City in '57 I was one pissed off cookie. When Steinbrenner took over the Yankees he got Gabe Paul who did a hell of a job building that team that would win 5 Division Championships, three pennants and two World Series. When Martin took over that club they paled ball and became winners. The "Boss" made the mistake of letting Paul go and messing with Martin . As far as I'm concerned sympathy from Steinbrenner on Martins death may have influenced #1 but as far as I'm concerned Martin earned it. I always was a fan of Billy got the opportunity to chat with him a bit at Tinker Field prior to a ST game with Minnesota. In my Book Billy rules.
 
...Martin was a mediocre player hitting in a stacked line up on great Yankee teams. When compared to other SS of his era, his career OPS+ was a meager 81.



...as far as "Tinker Field"...do you mean the one in Orlando?
 
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Yankeefan5545 said:
Billy Martin was a damn good ball player in his Yankee Years, he liked to raise a little hell but the man wanted to win and he pulled off some pretty good plays when crunch time arrive. When he was traded to Kansas City in '57 I was one pissed off cookie. When Steinbrenner took over the Yankees he got Gabe Paul who did a hell of a job building that team that would win 5 Division Championships, three pennants and two World Series. When Martin took over that club they paled ball and became winners. The "Boss" made the mistake of letting Paul go and messing with Martin . As far as I'm concerned sympathy from Steinbrenner on Martins death may have influenced #1 but as far as I'm concerned Martin earned it. I always was a fan of Billy got the opportunity to chat with him a bit at Tinker Field prior to a ST game with Minnesota. In my Book Billy rules.
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Michael I never saw Martin play but I'm told he was a tough scrappy player but IMO being a career 260 hitter over parts of 7 seasons does not warrant retiring your #. I've no doubt his # on the wall is for more as a manager than a player.
 
I'm sorry but you diminish the honor when you do this.
 
Martin was a scrapper no doubt, and as I stated the man wanted to win, and yes Tinker Field was Orlando. I knew a TV Cable Contractor who was a huge Stros and Baseball Fan, the man had some clout with the Spring Training games I attended twixt '88 and 2K we got premium seats apart from the ham and eggers. At Tinker Field in '88 we attended a game with the Yankees playing the Twins. Martin was making his way signing autographs. I got a score card and headed down there. As Martin signed the card I let him know I enjoyed his book #1 and we got into a brief conversation that was interrupted by a suit. I wished him luck and went to my seat. Steinbrenner was sitting two rows ahead and a few seats to my left. One of the cool things that day was seeing Lefty Carlton on his trout with the Twins and he pitched well that day. In conjunction when Jack Clark struck out some fans yelled out "Hey Clark still can't hit AL pitching..
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
Martin was a scrapper no doubt, and as I stated the man wanted to win, and yes Tinker Field was Orlando. I knew a TV Cable Contractor who was a huge Stros and Baseball Fan, the man had some clout with the Spring Training games I attended twixt '88 and 2K we got premium seats apart from the ham and eggers. At Tinker Field in '88 we attended a game with the Yankees playing the Twins. Martin was making his way signing autographs. I got a score card and headed down there. As Martin signed the card I let him know I enjoyed his book #1 and we got into a brief conversation that was interrupted by a suit. I wished him luck and went to my seat. Steinbrenner was sitting two rows ahead and a few seats to my left. One of the cool things that day was seeing Lefty Carlton on his trout with the Twins and he pitched well that day. In conjunction when Jack Clark struck out some fans yelled out "Hey Clark still can't hit AL pitching..
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...always loved Billy and his passion for winning, especially as a manager, but I think if he had played for anyone other than the Yanx, we probably would have never heard his name.
...I met him once in Florida years ago, along with The Mick, Yogi, Whitey, Charlie Keller, and Gene Michael....got all of their autographs on the back of a paper placemat at a restaurant...didn't get Billy's though because he got up from the table to go to the men's room...and I damn sure wasn't gonna follow him in there, not with his reputation for punching people out...lol.

...as far as "Tinker Field", I went there back in the 60's as a Little Leaguer (they took the whole team)...we saw the Orlando Twins (Minnesota's farm team back then) play somebody...it was a big deal for us because none of us had ever been to a big league park.
 
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At this rate why not Paul and Tino also while they're at it.
 
One thing that surprised me about Martin was his size, back then I was 5'11 and 140, I'd have swore he was a bit smaller than I, ditto Guidry who standing close by as Billy made the rounds. I still crack up when I hear Reggie sniveling about that game removal in '77.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
One thing that surprised me about Martin was his size, back then I was 5'11 and 140, I'd have swore he was a bit smaller than I, ditto Guidry who standing close by as Billy made the rounds. I still crack up when I hear Reggie sniveling about that game removal in '77.
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...I remember watching that Saturday game live...like I said before, I was never a Reggie fan (well, except for that 3 HR night in the '77 Series)...but when Billy pulled Reggie and got in his face it made me a fan of Billy.
 
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