RJ to Toronto? Dave D and HoopsWorld Like the Idea

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>Buried in his weekly column is this suggestion by Dave D’Alessandro: “Andrea Bargnani and expiring contracts (Joey Graham, Jorge Garbajosa) for Richard Jefferson, who would be the perfect wing-walker for the point guard tandem in Toronto”. Dave thinks Bargnani is salvageable in spite of his disappointing second season. Hoopsworld agrees the Raps could use RJ. As for RJ? “If they traded me within the division,” he tells D’Alessandro. “I’d kill them four times a year”.</div>

So many things crystallize at playoff time - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger

Will Raptors Pursue Jefferson, Free Agents? - Wendell Maxey - HoopsWorld

If by "killing" us, he means "take too many shots and expend less energy on defense", then I can't wait.

 

[Chutney]

I hate this rumour so much. I wish it'd just die.

 

[Dark Defender]

I want no part of that bust.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ May 4 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want no part of that bust.</div>

Someone else might...

 

[NJNetz]

Eww...Andrea? I'd rather keep RJ than trade him for A Dirk-wannabe.

Next.

 

[Universe]

No thanks. I'd rather just draft Dan G and keep RJ on this team.

 

[SportsTicker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ May 4 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eww...Andrea? I'd rather keep RJ than trade him for A Dirk-wannabe.

Next.</div>

Even RJ is talking about it. Does that tell you it's out of the question? Nope.

Here's why the Nets might do it: people want to "blow it up"? Well this would certainly qualify.

The team would gain 1) a versatile seven-footer who has disappointed but as a 22-year-old still has great potential; 2) a tough hombre who IF his leg injuries are resolved is not a bad guy to have on the bench; 3) a draft bust but would fill the Nets "twin gap" since he, like Jason Collins, has an identical twin; 4) cap space galore to help down the road with signing you-know-who; and 5) I personally would require the Raptors' first round pick in 2009.

It would also signal Nenad Krstic that he should look elsewhere and make the Nets one of the league's youngest teams...once Garbajosa and Graham are dealt with. And it would almost assure that the Nets won't bring three rookies into camp. They would either combine two of them to move up or trade one or use one on a Euro.

In Bargnani's defense (he has none of his own, of course), I would note that big guys and Euros take longer to develop and he is both. If you really believed he had the potential to be another Dirk Nowitzki, of course you would do it.

 

[Master Shake]

I'd take it.

 

[rimsh]

plus less boos whenever we play north of the border!

 

[Claud]

I would do this one. I bet Andres plays better D than Rj himself. Plus he is a deadly shooter for a 7 footer. IMO welcome aboard.
But i woud try to make the raps add a first round pick

 

[BasX]

id take it, cept id like someone else, cept Garbo, if hes healthy hed be valuable, but we'll see

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would do this one. I bet Andres plays better D than Rj himself. Plus he is a deadly shooter for a 7 footer. IMO welcome aboard.
But i woud try to make the raps add a first round pick

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Now the number of Raptors game I catch is limited, but I don't think I've EVER seen Andrea play defense in each one.

 

[Claud]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would do this one. I bet Andres plays better D than Rj himself. Plus he is a deadly shooter for a 7 footer. IMO welcome aboard.
But i woud try to make the raps add a first round pick

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Now the number of Raptors game I catch is limited, but I don't think I've EVER seen Andrea play defense in each one.
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Ive seen him play some games and his D is decent compared to RJs. He can move his feet reasonably quick for a big guy and Swat some shots. I would use him as a PF though.. Ala Krstic. He can shoot better than him... he has more endurance than him and plays better D. So its an upgrade in the PF spot.
If we actually do this trade then we should concentrate on A) Drafting a good SF with our first pick or B) Maybe trading some picks and players to Memphis for Mike Miller .

 

[purplehaze89]

Bustnani is one of the worst overall players I have ever seen. This dude is flat out garbage and now he is mentally shook as well. Say no.

 

[BasX]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (purplehaze89 @ May 4 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bustnani is one of the worst overall players I have ever seen. This dude is flat out garbage and now he is mentally shook as well. Say no.</div>
hes still in his early 20s tho

 

[Chutney]

The key is to actually play him as a power forward/center. This team's trying to develop him in that direction, but he's still put out on the floor as a small forward (eg: positioning around the 3 pt. line). I still see a lot of talent and potential in him and I think he's progressed well in spite of certain things. I'd be annoyed if the Raptors traded him now, when his value is so low.

As for RJ, I just don't see him being that missing piece. And I don't even understand why the Raptors need to gamble it all for that "missing piece" in the first place. Our core is still in the early 20's and we've got significant cap space coming up in a year or so.

 

[User01]

I wouldn't mind it but I'd like to acquire Kapono if we do trade RJ to Toronto.

 

[Jizzy]

do it, we;re not going to get a better deal and RJ needs to go.

 

[NOMAM]

I don't like the trade proposed by Dave D. Parker instead of Garbajosa. A first round pick has to be included and try to get Moon from them as well.

 

[Jizzy]

oh yeah, i forgot about moon. how about we throw in Marcus and they throw in moon or we throw in boone

 

[BasX]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ May 4 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>oh yeah, i forgot about moon. how about we throw in Marcus and they throw in moon or we throw in boone</div>
why would we want Marcus if we alreayd have TJ and Jose along with Ukic coming over? and i dont know if i want Boone, but thats better then Marcus

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 4 2008, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ May 4 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>oh yeah, i forgot about moon. how about we throw in Marcus and they throw in moon or we throw in boone</div>
why would we want Marcus if we alreayd have TJ and Jose along with Ukic coming over? and i dont know if i want Boone, but thats better then Marcus
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because we dont want him

 

[Chutney]

We'll take Marcus if you take Maceo Baston.

 

[Jizzy]

deal

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ May 4 2008, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We'll take Marcus if you take Maceo Baston.</div>

Maceo Baston... = Stromile Swift 0.5?

 

[ly_yng]

I like this deal, if only because I have 0 faith in Sam Mitchell's ability to develop a young player. Not sure if Frank and the Nets are any different, but considering how much talent this kid might have, it seems like a pretty good "buy low" moment.

I also would love to keep Garbo if he can stay healthy.

 

[danxcr]

id do this trade, just for the fact that i think RJ is close to hitting his full potential... and its rare for a 7ft guy to be as mobile and be able to shoot the 3 ball...

 

[jirohkanzaki]

thorn: bargnani, parker, graham, moon and a 2009 1st round pick
colangelo: NO!
thorn: bargnani, parker, graham, moon and a 2009 1st round pick
colangelo: stay away from your drug dealer.
thorn: bargnani, parker, graham, moon and a 2009 1st round pick
colangelo: NO!
thorn: bargnani, parker, graham, moon and a 2009 1st round pick
colangelo: (thinking about rj running with tj/calderon and getting past the 1st rd...) uhmmm, OK...

2008-09 RJ - 22ppg on 42% shooting, 4TO pg but career highs in rebs/asts and leads the raps in FTA/gm which he shoots at 80%

DO IT THORN!

 

[kobe23]

Seriously... a player of RJ's caliber is all Toronto needs to complete it's lineup. A 1 - 2 punch of RJ and Bosh, coupled alongside Ford and Calderon would do wonders... Plus you do have a bench.

Dont know if the Nets would consider what the Raps have to offer though

 

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After this deal, can we complete a Devin for Darko trade?

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