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[BengalDuck]

I'm still waiting for the video a Rockets' fan promised about Oden's foul calls. I wish I had the proper setup to record and youtube every foul called on him this yera... 25%-50% of the calls have been just straight embarrassing.

 

[durvasa]

Unless they changed the rules, if a defender jumps, even if holding arms straight up, and there's body contact, that technically is a foul. It's not always called, but it is called more often than not, and as far as I know, has always been considered a foul.

I missed this one before.

The rules have changed the last couple years, or at least the ways the officials have said they'll call it.

Jonathan Feigen, Rockets beat writer, commented on it here:

(The officials, as human beings, make mistakes and they almost always benefit both teams, as they did that night, as you correctly point out. I don't agree on your argument about Roy driving on Yao, however. If a defender goes straight up and a ball-handler drives into him, it is a no-call, as it was that night. It is an interpretation that has been emphasized the past two seasons and fans typically hate because it looks like a foul and was a foul for years. It was, I believe, correctly ruled a no-call on Tuesday. -- Jonathan)

And if that's not good enough:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/10/21/meeting-with-ref/

Every pre-season, the league sends an official to each NBA city to update the press on what the officials will be emphasizing in the coming season. The session for the Warriors media was before Tuesday’s game. Guess who was the official who ran it?
That’s right. Bob Delaney. Yes, the same official who fell for Derek Fisher’s flop and called Monta Ellis for the charge against the Lakers last year, a call that cost the Warriors a critical game.
He is a great guy. Super honest, and funny. An all-around pleasure to be around. He even explained why they missed that call. On inbounds, there is usually a blind spot and they sometimes can’t see grabs and holds. Anyway, there were other things he explained to us. Figured you may be interested.

*Just because a defender is hit square in the chest doesn’t mean it’s an offensive foul.
*When the offensive and defensive player arrive at a spot at the same time, it will be ruled a blocking foul. In other words, a tie goes to the dribbler
*A player flopping does not negate the fact that contact was made and therefore an offensive foul can be called
*if a defender was not in position before the offensive player gathers the ball (or picks up his dribble), then it’s an automatic blocking foul, even if the player is set when the contact is made
*The secondary defender coming over to draw a charge will be called for blocking fouls
*When a player is taking a charge and has his heels on the semi-circle under the basket (the restricted area) raising his heels does not mean he’s not in the restricted area. There is an imaginary vertical plan
*If a player is in the restricted area but goes straight up and doesn’t bring his hands forward, and the offensive player initiates contact, it’s not a defensive foul
*It was emphasized that body contact with players who are in the air - such as stepping under a player while he is attempting a shot - will be called a defensive foul. Officials will be cracking down on that
*They are also going to be looking for holds and grabs on inbounds plays
*Screeners must allow a player to “stop and/or change directions” on back picks, otherwise it’s an offensive foul
*Overt gestures aren’t automatic technical fouls anymore; only when it is directed at referees. Same when a player throws the ball or punches the padding under the basket

And also this:

http://www.nba.com/media/2008-09-RefereeGuide.pdf

(page 76)

The restricted area (RA) is the area within the
arched line on the court located below the rim.
Its purpose is to stop secondary defenders from
taking a position under the basket in an attempt
to draw the offensive foul when a player is driving
to the basket. If an offensive player drives past
his primary defender on the way to the basket
and a secondary defender comes over, he must
establish a legal position outside the RA to draw
an offensive foul. If the drive starts inside the
Lower Defensive Box (LDB – this is the area from
the bottom tip of the free throw circle to the endline
between the two 3’ posted-up marks), the
secondary defender is legally allowed to be positioned
inside the RA. The restricted are also
does not apply if the secondary defender jumps
in attempting to block the shot, the offensive
player leads with his leg or knee in an unnatural
motion or uses his off arm to prevent the
defender from blocking his shot. The RA does
not extend from below the backboard to the
baseline. Therefore, if a player drives the baseline
and is not attempting to go directly to the rim,
the RA does not apply.

 

[durvasa]

I'm still waiting for the video a Rockets' fan promised about Oden's foul calls. I wish I had the proper setup to record and youtube every foul called on him this yera... 25%-50% of the calls have been just straight embarrassing.

LOL ... I didn't promise it. I said I'd do it if I had time, and it would take a number of hours to go through the game.

But I tell you what. You tell me specifically what you'd like me to put in the video, and I'll try to put something together for you. But it has to be specific, because otherwise its just too time consuming.

 

[yinets1860]

Yao should have fouled out in the 1st half
Houston was in the penalty and shooting free throws within 5-6 minutes of every quarter but 1! And there were not going to the hoop. Obviously, they started attacking once the penalty was there, but it was crazy.
The refs were terrible in the 1st and got progressively decent throughout.
We still had substantially more points in paint while shooting less ft's(the 6-8 we shot at the end dont count, houston was in foul mode)

my god,you got it wrong，man，he is Oden not Yao

 

[blue32]

yuck fao.

as someone put it so eloquently in another thread.