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...it is a very sad situation [Lt. Nate holding Sergio back all this time...and KP's spin on the whole "thing"...it should be interesting as this plays out]
 
This is kinda ridiculous...

He simply isn't good enough to demand as many minutes as he wants. Does he not understand this? Does he think if he speaks out about it minutes will be unfairly handed to him? I just don't get it. LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THEIR MINUTES around the NBA and even on the Blazers. Its a very deep team... minutes don't just get handed to you, and he is not a better starting PG than Blake, or a better bench player than Przybilla, Rudy or Travis.

If he wants to be traded I don't see why we shouldn't accomidate and can trade him for a late 1st round pick or a future 1st or something to help clear up logjams... Roy and Rudy are playing PG well and Blake is still the starter... we can cut down our rotation which we need to do anyway with Oden and Webster ocming back.

I mean before the season even started Nate said his 10th man will be the backup PG and he will get 5-10 mpg and Sergio is getting over 9mpg. so...

Sergio said:
But I can't be three years playing the same - being the third point guard for three years.
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He was only the 3rd PG in one of the 3 years that he was on this team...
 
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If the game was just offense, Sergio would be playing 20-25 minutes a game and racking up 10 assists a game.
But his defense is still atrocious. Aaron Brooks just drove past him several times, and Sergio is still not active enough defensively which probably drives Nate crazy and that's why he doesn't get the PT he wants.

The guy can play, but he's just not a Nate kind of player.
 
Nate played with one of the best point guards ever, Gary Payton. He is the standard. None of our guards come close to the GP type of player. Sergio's swiss-cheese defense make him almost useless except for a little instant offense. Trade Sergio.
 
His defense is pretty bad.

I do think that if Nate is telling him that he is going to get to play more than he actually does then he does have a beef.

I don't know what he should do about it other than get better, but if what he says is true I can't blame him entirely.
 
I know everything isn't about numbers but this somewhat shows that his shooting is off and his assist ratio is improving. Rudy and Roy are a good combo and working out the offense. Sergio is just not liking the offensive setup that Nate has in sceme because its with a lot of passing. Sergio wants more of a fast past tempo which is not Nates style. Sergio doesn't want to the patience to slow things down and setup a good play.

11/1 vs Phoniex: 14 min, 2-2 FG, 1-1 3P, 1 OFRB, 2 DEFRB, 4 assists, 0 turnovers, 5 points.
11/5 vs Utah: 7 min, 0-2 FG, 0-1 3P, 1 OFRB, 3 assists, 1 turnover, 0 points.
11/6 vs Houston: 11 min, 0-3 FG, 0-2 3P, 1 OFRB, 2 DEFRB, 6 assists, 3 turnovers, 0 points.

I say deal Sergio, because he was complaining last year too. Let Bayless get some PG experience.
 
The money quote from Sergio is this:

"I think I'm playing unbelievable (considering) how I feel," Rodriguez said. "I'm not committing a lot of mistakes."

The man still thinks that not playing defense is not a mistake...
 
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Sergio sounds very immature based on his comments. Basically, he's more likely to take his frustrations to the media than to his coach.
 
And yet Blake is getting huge chunks of minutes when his defense is just as shitty? Talk about a double standard. I would be pissed too i I were Sergio. I don't think Sergio is the best point guard out there, but he deserves more of a shot than he is getting and should be getting as many minutes as Blake. I am really starting to sour on Nate.....and i really don't want to go through another coaching change so Nate better step up his game.
 
Blake's defense is certainly better than Sergio's.

Blake is a very average player, but you know what you will get from him every night... he gives you a very solid shooter from the outside, and doesn't make mistakes and gives you effort on defense. He would be a fine veteran backup PG for us, but I also don't like him as a starter.

Sergio gives you great playmaking, is a phenominal passer and has great vision, but almost everything else he does is average or below average. He is good for energy off the bench but isn't the solid starter we need out of the starting pg position.

We really don't have a player on our roster that really should be our starting pg.
 
It's pretty clear Nate and Sergio don't know how to communicate with each other. I blame both of them.

barfo
 
Sergio has got to go. Let him try to be as good as he thinks he is somewhere else.
 
who does sergio think he is? he is playing so good he needs more playing time? yeah that 27% shooting is great sergio
 
Come on, folks. Sergio is *special*.

He leads the NBA in assists/48 -- with 16.4. That is ahead of (in order)
Chris Paul,
Steve Nash,
Jose Calderon,
Jason Kidd

And in assists/TO ratio he is *also* better than any of them.

Are they better players? Without a doubt. Can they shoot better? All but Kidd, certainly. Ditto for defense.

But Sergio is *22* years old. Defense can be learned, especially by someone who reads the court as well as he does. Shooting also can be improved (as he has started doing).

This is no ordinary scrub, folks. Sergio is really something extraordinary. I'd be seriously bummed if he was moved.

iWatas
 
Oh, and BTW -- Blake's assists/48? 50th in the league. Just behind that all-time point guard, Al Horford.

iWatas
 
Sergio leads the league in assists per 48 minutes, with 16.3 assists/48 minutes. The next four are Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Jose Calderon, and Jason Kidd. Three clear hall of famers and an international world champion.

Sergio has an assist/turnover ratio of 5.0, fifth in the league and again ahead of all four listed above.

I'd say his point guard skills are outstanding, his shooting needs to improve (Blake much better), and his defense needs to improve (Blake better, but only mediocre). Both his shooting stroke and his defense are notably improved from last year, so he is making strides.

In the last 3 games, Sergio has played 31 total minutes, with 14 assists and 2 turnovers. Blake has played 96 minutes, with 13 assists and 4 turnovers. So in 1/3 as many minutes, he has more assists.
 
Sergio's assists are inflated compared to Blake. You do not see him playing next to Roy who dominates the ball. Of course Blake's assists are not coming as quick as Sergio's - he does not control the ball most of the time on offense, he brings it up the court and is mostly a spot-up shooter.
 
Sergio's defense can't be used as an issue anymore, because Blake's defense ain't much better.
 
julius said:
Sergio's defense can't be used as an issue anymore, because Blake's defense ain't much better.
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Blake's defense is not good - but it is still better than Sergio's, he is a better shooter and he is effective when not dominating the ball - a requirement when playing next to Roy.

Unless people are willing to take the ball out of Roy's hands or limit his minutes - there is very little use for Sergio. It's that simple. He does not mesh well with Roy - and good game management calls for finding role players that work well with your stars, not the other way around.
 
Sergio shouldn't be playing with Roy in the game, that is the problem. And Rudy plays PG as well as Blake as well as Roy.... his minutes just aren't there, and IDK what he wants... he wants Rudy's minutes cut in favor of him? He is playing better this year, but we still have a logjam... there are MANY good players sitting on this team, not just him. I just don't get it.

But I don't think him wanting to possibly seek other options is a bad thing. I think its the best thing for Sergio.

Blake's play has also been very mediocre this year. There are a couple of things KP still needs to do... I'm really happy Batum has emerged as our starting SF though...

When Webster comes back, Outlaw is still going to obviously play, so who sits out? Has to be Frye... and he is playing pretty well also. Not really too fair to him either.
 
andalusian said:
Unless people are willing to take the ball out of Roy's hands or limit his minutes - there is very little use for Sergio.
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I actually think the ball needs to be in Roy's hands less. Let him take over late in the game, but the offense is way too stagnant and predictable with Roy trying to break his man down every play.
 
handiman said:
I actually think the ball needs to be in Roy's hands less. Let him take over late in the game, but the offense is way too stagnant and predictable with Roy trying to break his man down every play.
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Agreed. I'm starting to dislike Roy at the point. He doesn't look to pass enough.

barfo
 
Nate should let Sergio start at PG, that is a win-win for this Blazers organization.

Win- Sergio gets his minutes
Win- if he succeeds then we are better for it, if he doesn't then he has no room to talk
 
Blaz06Draft said:
Sergio leads the league in assists per 48 minutes, with 16.3 assists/48 minutes. The next four are Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Jose Calderon, and Jason Kidd. Three clear hall of famers and an international world champion.
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This argument totally cracks me up. Can you say "small sample size"? I knew you could. Prior to last night, Sergio hadn't even played 48 minutes all season. So, his per 48 numbers are boarding on insignificant and certainly don't signify anythings close to a long term trend. But, hey don't let that stop you for comparing him to guys who have been putting up those kind of assist numbers, as starters playing 30+ MPG year, after year, after year. Don't let the fact that putting up those kind of assist/48 numbers is a LOT harder to do when you are playing against the other team's best players for 36 minutes is a LOT hard than coming in against the other team's second unit it racking up a couple of quick assists in less than 10 minutes.

Never mind that ALL those other players are FAR above average in at least one other aspects of the game than just racking up assists.

Nash is one of the best shooters in the game. During his two MVP seasons, Nash lead the league in both assists and TS% (true shooting percentage). He has a career TS% of 0.603 and his TS% is currently above 0.630 for the 4th season in a row - an amazing stat for a guard. He gets to the line frequently and is the second best best FT shooter in the 60+ year history of the NBA. Nash's career 3FG% of 0.432 is second highest among active players and 5th highest in the history of the league. And these are stats he's put up over a 13-year career of averaging over 30 MPG - not in five games of less than 10 MPG of back-up duty. This is what's known as a significant sample size.

Chris Paul is one of the most talented all around players in the game PERIOD. Last year he lead the NBA in both assists and steals - and is doing so again this season - while averaging over 21 PPG. He was also 2nd team all-defense last year. He has attempted more FT in the first five games of this season that Sergio has in his entire career. His career TS% is 0.557. His career FT% is 0.840. And, he's improved his FG% and 3FG% every season he's been in the league.

Jason Kidd is one of the best defending and best rebounding guards in the entire history of the league. He is currently averaging above 7 RPG for the 5th straight season and 6th of his career. He's been 1st or 2nd team all-defense 9 times. And while shooting is considered his biggest weakness, he's a better shooter than Sergio (EVERYBODY is a better shooter than Sergio).

So, Sergio puts up some nice assist/48 numbers for five or six games and he's now being mentioned in the same sentence as these three sure-fire Hall of Famers. And while his current assist/48 number is comparable to theirs over a much smaller sample size, EVERY other aspect of his game is WAY, WAY below average. The others all excelled at at LEAST one other area. I didn't mention Calderon as his sample size isn't as large as the others, but he is also a great shooter who has extended his range to 3-point territory and he's an excellent FT shooter. Sergio isn't even a poor man's Calderon and has absolutely no business being mentioned in the same sentence as Nash, Paul and Kidd. And even less business whining about his PT.

BNM
 
Its obvious that he and Nate are not on the same page. Perhaps Sergio could go through some defensive drills or something to work on his steals or causing a trap on a player? Perhaps Sergio isn't patient enough on half court offense? Blake takes his time and Sergio always appears rushed.
 
andalusian said:
Blake's defense is not good - but it is still better than Sergio's, he is a better shooter and he is effective when not dominating the ball - a requirement when playing next to Roy.

Unless people are willing to take the ball out of Roy's hands or limit his minutes - there is very little use for Sergio. It's that simple. He does not mesh well with Roy - and good game management calls for finding role players that work well with your stars, not the other way around.
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Effective when not dominating the ball? That is a reach at best. Blake his been border effective at best, through out his career.
 
hasoos said:
Effective when not dominating the ball? That is a reach at best. Blake his been border effective at best, through out his career.
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Blake can shoot the long ball and his defense is better than Sergio. Sergio is a hopeless spot-up shooter - and his defense is worse than Blake.

If you are asking me what is the worst position the Blazers need to address - I would agree that PG is it - either by letting Bayless get some burn or by trading - but it is clear that if you put someone who can not shoot to save his life next to a guy like Roy who needs the ball - he is not going to be effective. While Blake is not shooting lights out - I would take 42%/36% (FG/3P) over 28%/22% every day of the week and twice on Tuesday...

To be honest, with the way our PGs play defense this year - a Roy/Rudy combo will not lose anything on defense - but we will get Rudy's magnificent 46%/42% shooting...
 
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andalusian said:
Blake can shoot the long ball and his defense is better than Sergio. Sergio is a hopeless spot-up shooter - and his defense is worse than Blake.

If you are asking me what is the worst position the Blazers need to address - I would agree that PG is it - either by letting Bayless get some burn or by trading - but it is clear that if you put someone who can not shoot to save his life next to a guy like Roy who needs the ball - he is not going to be effective. While Blake is not shooting lights out - I would take 42%/36% (FG/3P) over 28%/22% every day of the week and twice on Tuesday...

To be honest, with the way our PGs play defense this year - a Roy/Rudy combo will not lose anything on defense - but we will get Rudy's magnificent 46%/42% shooting...
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I agree with you that Roy and Rudy is the back court of choice. I also believe that all the people who called it a failure after one game, have no patience. Oh let me see. Are 2 guys who have never played together in a pro game going to excel the first time together? No? Oh ok, throw the idea completely out the window, and give up on it because it did not work out the first time or two. We might as well trade Rudy and Brandon both now.:crazy:
 
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