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Yeah i think you're right, on paper we do have a bit more forward depth, esp if Grabner gets the speed thing working. I might give Ottawa a slight edge at the very top but it's close. Depends what Nash and Kreider show up.
 
Agreed. Ottawa is weak forwards 8-12 I think. Bottom 3rd line and the 4th cannot match us. Their top 6 or 7 are neck and neck with us. Maybe they have a small edge, but it is darn close. And we have the talent if our guys show up (hello invisible Kreider). But I am a huge believer in depth and balance is needed to win playoff series, see the Hawks, and that's why I think we have the edge overall upfront.

D is real close, maybe small overall edge them due to Karlsson and his 30 mpg. But their 3rd pair is a liability for sure.

We have the clear edge in goal. And we have the edge at coach.

That's how I see it overall.
 
Don't let Karlsson blow up the series, and stay patient against their trap (will need more dump and chase) and the Rangers will be fine. Those things are easier said than done though.
 
Karlsson has had very little success vs. the Rangers when they met in the playoffs. His game is speed and that doesn't work with the Rangers. Anderson was just like Price. Dominates vs. the Rangers in the regular season when those teams act like it's the finals vs. NY. Then in the playoffs, they aren't nearly as good. Ryan is also dumb. Rangers usually exploit is stupidity. Ottawa is a trap team. As long as the Rangers are patient, they should win this series. Brassard will also be a complete non factor in this series. Rangers know everything about him and just how to play him.
 
I think with Ottawa's trap type of style Kreider is going to have to have a big impact getting in and retrieving pucks on dumps and chases.
 
ESPN picks:

10 of 11 picked the Rangers (only one in 7 games the rest in 5 or mostly 6 games)
6 Caps/5 Pens
8 to 3 for the Preds and Ducks

We go from big underdog in round 1 to big favorite in round 2.
 
kreidertime said:
Karlsson has had very little success vs. the Rangers when they met in the playoffs. His game is speed and that doesn't work with the Rangers. Anderson was just like Price. Dominates vs. the Rangers in the regular season when those teams act like it's the finals vs. NY. Then in the playoffs, they aren't nearly as good. Ryan is also dumb. Rangers usually exploit is stupidity. Ottawa is a trap team. As long as the Rangers are patient, they should win this series. Brassard will also be a complete non factor in this series. Rangers know everything about him and just how to play him.
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I hope Ottawa continues their stupidity with the minutes they play guys in that style. Karlsson will be dead and Ryan who actually scored four goals for them against Boston only averaged 15 minutes a game. That may sound like it's decent but there were four OT games out of the six and one that went to double overtime.
 
With the season they had and adding Shatt, plus some of the people Pitt may be missing, I'm not sure why Washington isn't favored a little more in this. How much better of a team can they have to not be favored over Pitt this year? I think StL is pretty even with Nashville but i can see Anaheim winning in 5/6 if they get Fowler and Lindholm back.
 
People view the Rangers/Sens series like most of us in here do, Rangers a clear favorite, and that scares me.

As for the Pens/Caps I am so torn on that one. I picked the Pens initially, but now I am sort of feeling the Caps are due to finally make the ECF. If not now that team will be broken up big time this summer and we'll see a different Caps team next year.

The thing with the Caps is I still think they are too reliant on one line AND I don't trust Holtby. He is good, but not sure he is great as his numbers and Vezina from last season suggest.
 
I don't think there's any way you can view us a "clear" favorite. Favorite, probably, but not by much.
 
Pens in 5. Columbus was a very good team and Pitt asswhipped them. I honestly thought the only team who could beat Pitt was Chicago. If the Rangers met up with them they would have to take almost no penalties every game and either Crosby or Kessel would have to get hurt.
 
I am not saying what I think, I am telling you 10 of 11 people on ESPN picked us, and 9 of the 10 in 5 or 6 games. I saw two people on NHL network and they picked us also. Expert pick wise we are a clear favorite.
 
I was not nearly as high on CBJ as you, but they were impressive. Real torn on that one as mentioned. I think it could go either way.

From a Rangers POV, not sure which team I rather play, maybe the Caps.
 
Right, I know that's not you, I meant that in the people picking, but the "experts" seem to be underselling Ottawa a little bit.
 
On NHL.com, 17 picked the Rangers, only 4 picked the Sens.

17 Caps/4 Pens - surprised by this one
19 Preds/2 Blues - wow
16 Ducks/5 Oilers

So once again we are a clear favorite in this series based on the "expert" picks. 27 Rangers and 5 Sens between ESPN.com and NHL.com. Wow.

And keep in mind in the 1st round most picked Montreal, especially on NHL.com. ESPN.com was a closer spilt with an edge to Montreal.
 
Get ready to listen to terrible announcers.

Just looked on the NBCSN website, and games 1 & 2 we have John Forslund and Brian Boucher. Game 3 we have Dave Strader and Pierre McGuire. And game 4 we get Kenny Albert and Pierre McGuire.

Awful stuff until we get Albert in game 4. We get the worst of it. My guess is they didn't want to give us too much Albert and Micheletti because it might be considered unfair to Sens fans?

Doc, Eddie, and Pierre do every Pens/Caps game, which I am fine with, but why do we get Forslund and Boucher. Give us Albert and anyone.

Micheletti is doing every game of the Oilers/Ducks series.

I really hope someday we go back to local broadcasts in addition to the National broadcasts as they do in round 1. Doubtful though due to money.
 
I've been thinking about game 1 tonight, and I think it is an important game. Of course there is no win or lose the series in game 1, but if the Rangers get it with everyone picking us and after beating Montreal, I do think this could be a quick series.

As always the main objective is get one and come back home tied 1-1, I would take that now, but if we can go up there and take game 1 right out of the gate, I really think it puts us in a great spot to win this series and maybe do it without too much heartache. If we lose game 1 I think we should count on a 6 or 7 game series for sure.
 
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