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He played hard for us ever since his rookie year to last season but then something over the summer changed him. Once he say how much money he could make, the $82,000,000 max contract he whined and cried to get it. As a true leader like Kobe, LeBron and Wade, he needs to act like one take command when the going gets tough, but hey Roy wont play defense because he only cares about himself and his offensive output. Roy's true colors have come out, we should have known this when he refused to take part in the national anthem. As I listen to him right now giving a post game interview, he is not a leader, he is not angry, he's just relaxed. Roy got his $82M, so what else does he have to play for?
 
For petes sake the anthem thing is nothing. He has been grabbing a quiet moment for himself for over two seasons and not only did no one notice, but no one cared.....until Crapzano got on his soapbox and made a big fucking deal out of it. Brandon doesn't give a shit. He said if it bothered people that much he'd skip doing it and stand with the team.

Things have changed. Not only do they have Greg Oden playing like a different player, he has Andre Miller to learn to play with. His role on the team has changed..and he has had to reinvent himself. Be patient. He'll get things straightened out.
 
I wouldn't call Brandon "relaxed", more like "under control" and that's one of the traits that make him a great player; it's a good trait. I agree that he just needs some time to get in a groove.
 
RudyFor3 said:
He played hard for us ever since his rookie year to last season but then something over the summer changed him. Once he say how much money he could make, the $82,000,000 max contract he whined and cried to get it. As a true leader like Kobe, LeBron and Wade, he needs to act like one take command when the going gets tough, but hey Roy wont play defense because he only cares about himself and his offensive output. Roy's true colors have come out, we should have known this when he refused to take part in the national anthem. As I listen to him right now giving a post game interview, he is not a leader, he is not angry, he's just relaxed. Roy got his $82M, so what else does he have to play for?
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This loss sucks, but perhaps he realizes that a season is not won or lost in a single regular season game played in the month of November.
 
We put people on a pedestal some times JUST so we can knock them down later. Roy is a very good player. Maybe not as good as some thought he was, but he's young and will improve. I'm not worried about him.

Ed O.
 
I think the only things you can really get on Roy for this year is his unabashed love affair with Steve Blake (which is probably worse for the team) and his defense. That other shit about national anthems and tunnels, etc, that's for attention whores like Canzano to freak out about and throw a turkey out the window.
 
There was a quote from only 1 or 2 games ago in which a reporter (Quick?) asked Roy about his recent playing and Roy said that you don't go away from Kobe or LeBron when they have a bad shooting night. So I look up this season PERs and the other 2 are top 10, while Roy is #44. He overrates himself because the local media and fans do. He and Aldridge need to hear some demands to get tougher.
 
Oh, I see the context of this thread. This is an auxiliary to the OT thread about Roy being in the tunnel during the Anthem. So my post will be perceived as supplementing that cause. Okay, I will add that I think he's doing nothing wrong; in fact, I question why the Anthem is played at sporting events at all when other entertainment events do just fine without it.
 
I think Nate's true colors are coming out. Mediocre.

he was a mediocre player, a mediocre coach in Seattle, and a mediocre coach in Portland.

Great assistant, but shit-can head coach.
 
The Sebastian Express said:
That other shit about national anthems and tunnels, etc, that's for attention whores like Canzano to freak out about and throw a turkey out the window.
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The thing is, I doubt Canzano actually cares, really. I think he just counted on certain elements of his reader base freaking out.

As for Roy, I think he's just having a rough start based on being taken out of his comfort zone and, perhaps, some random slumping. I don't think this is a reflection on his character.
 
So does this mean he isnt on Kobe's level anymore....as some people tried to claim...

I thought Bynum was the one who was gonna get soft after getting paid? :devilwink:
 
jlprk said:
Oh, I see the context of this thread. This is an auxiliary to the OT thread about Roy being in the tunnel during the Anthem. So my post will be perceived as supplementing that cause. Okay, I will add that I think he's doing nothing wrong; in fact, I question why the Anthem is played at sporting events at all when other entertainment events do just fine without it.
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I think they should change the National Anthem to:

[video=youtube;YZdJRDpLHbw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdJRDpLHbw[/video]

Now that would be AWESOME before sporting events! 20,000 people singing this in unison...oh yeah:clap:
 
DaRizzle said:
I think they should change the National Anthem to:

Now that would be AWESOME before sporting events! 20,000 people singing this in unison...oh yeah:clap:
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Also, kids could do that in school instead of the Pledge of Allegiance.

barfo
 
Roy has been a little off all season. It's hard to lead when you're not getting your own job done.

I think Brandon will come around and be fine. My concern with him is that he hasn't been setting up other guys as much. Particularly he has developed very little chemistry with Oden, and he doesn't seem to be all that concerned about it.
 
Ed O said:
Roy is a very good player. Maybe not as good as some thought he was, but he's young and will improve.
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Roy is a very good player, and I agree he will get better, technically, as he picks up the savvy vet tricks when he's 'been there done that'.

The only thing that worries me is that i think he's just a fraction too slow for NBA defenses. He uses his superior ball handling and crossover to break down defenses. Now this season that his handle has gone a bit, he's not the same player.
Also, as he ages and slows down, he'll be less effective unfortunately.

It's his physical abilities that I worry will limit his ceiling.
 
If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
Minstrel said:
The thing is, I doubt Canzano actually cares, really. I think he just counted on certain elements of his reader base freaking out.
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I have a different take. It doesn't bother me that Canzano wrote the story. I wonder why he waited till now? Canzano and Quick have had a love affair with Brandon the past few years. Why did Canzano become irked enough with Roy to write this story? Was it because Roy's acting more the prima donna now that he's getting the big paycheck? His refusal to adapt his game to help the team get better? Maybe the pitiful display in Oakland where Roy didn't attempt to play defense and then Nate folding and putting the ball back in Roy's hands? Some of the very selfish sounding comments he's been making over his need to have the ball? His taking the summer off and not working on his game? A warning shot to Roy about something else we don't want to read in print?

I have no idea why the story was written but I doubt it was to just to stir up trouble. There is something that has changed Canzanos opinion of Roy. He has always been a Roy supporter. I guess I'll have to wait to see how this season unfolds. It's not going as I planned it. I thought we'd be nearly undefeated at this point of the season. We ruined a great opportunity to get out ahead of the pack.
 
roydezlaw said:
I have a different take. It doesn't bother me that Canzano wrote the story. I wonder why he waited till now? Canzano and Quick have had a love affair with Brandon the past few years. Why did Canzano become irked enough with Roy to write this story? Was it because Roy's acting more the prima donna now that he's getting the big paycheck? His refusal to adapt his game to help the team get better? Maybe the pitiful display in Oakland where Roy didn't attempt to play defense and then Nate folding and putting the ball back in Roy's hands? Some of the very selfish sounding comments he's been making over his need to have the ball? His taking the summer off and not working on his game? A warning shot to Roy about something else we don't want to read in print?

I have no idea why the story was written but I doubt it was to just to stir up trouble. There is something that has changed Canzanos opinion of Roy. He has always been a Roy supporter. I guess I'll have to wait to see how this season unfolds. It's not going as I planned it. I thought we'd be nearly undefeated at this point of the season. We ruined a great opportunity to get out ahead of the pack.
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Sounds like you...err, sorry. Sounds like Canzano has lots of reasons to be mad at Roy. Sounds like your take is simply that you don't like what you've seen from Roy, and thus agree with Canzano "getting back at" Roy. After all, from your angle it sounds like Roy deserves everything he gets from Canzano. It's a good thing he's there to show Roy just how disappointed you are in him.
 
roydezlaw said:
I have no idea why the story was written but I doubt it was to just to stir up trouble. There is something that has changed Canzanos opinion of Roy. He has always been a Roy supporter. I guess I'll have to wait to see how this season unfolds. It's not going as I planned it. I thought we'd be nearly undefeated at this point of the season. We ruined a great opportunity to get out ahead of the pack.
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Canzano doesn't need a reason, seriously.
 
The guy nearly had a triple double last night and you don't think he cares enough?

Judging from the box score, he didn't get much help from the bench or good old Steve Blake who went o-for.

Roy doesn't seem to be the issue.
 
SheedSoNasty said:
The guy nearly had a triple double last night and you don't think he cares enough?

Judging from the box score, he didn't get much help from the bench or good old Steve Blake who went o-for.

Roy doesn't seem to be the issue.
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I might have agreed with that, if not for the post-game interviews.

Nate came out and stated the obvious truth: the team played with no energy. Roy then comes out, and contradicts Nate. He claims (amazingly) that the team had plenty of energy. He then goes into the "we don't know our roles" BS. It's like Roy is going out of his way to tell everybody that he and Nate aren't getting along.
 
I have been a little disenchanted with Roy . . . but I can't seem to put my finger on exactly why.

He seems a half step slow and a little less energy this year. But then again Roy has never played at a fast pace before. Has the league figured Roy out, is Roy missing that half step or are things the same as last year?

I haven't bothered to study the stats, so just my general feeling from watching the games is Roy isn't the same player from last year and he doesn't seem very happy or motivated these days.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Sounds like you...err, sorry. Sounds like Canzano has lots of reasons to be mad at Roy. Sounds like your take is simply that you don't like what you've seen from Roy, and thus agree with Canzano "getting back at" Roy. After all, from your angle it sounds like Roy deserves everything he gets from Canzano. It's a good thing he's there to show Roy just how disappointed you are in him.
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There's no doubt I'm disappointed with Roy this year. I don't like how he gets a free ride from the responsibilities of being the man. If you are going to put yourself in the same breath as Kobe and LeBron, then take the responsibilities and blame that go with it. If you don't work to get better during the off season, how are you going to get better? By dogging it on defense? By taking volume shots to get your points?

I had visions of Andre helping us get a much more exciiting offense going but Roy doesn't want to share the ball with Andre, Oden or Rudy. I think there is a big problem in the locker room with this team that hasn't come out yet. I can see it in their play and in their looks at one another. Time will tell if they can get on the same page. If not, we're in for a disappointing season.
 
RudyFor3 said:
He played hard for us ever since his rookie year to last season but then something over the summer changed him. Once he say how much money he could make, the $82,000,000 max contract he whined and cried to get it. As a true leader like Kobe, LeBron and Wade, he needs to act like one take command when the going gets tough, but hey Roy wont play defense because he only cares about himself and his offensive output. Roy's true colors have come out, we should have known this when he refused to take part in the national anthem. As I listen to him right now giving a post game interview, he is not a leader, he is not angry, he's just relaxed. Roy got his $82M, so what else does he have to play for?
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What like Kobe, Lebron, and Wade never lose games? Because that is what your acting like. They also lose games that they shouldn't, like the Blazers did last night. Hell Wade loses a lot more games than Roy has easily. So as you were saying?
 
Does everyone realize Roy barely missed a triple double? I think our fans have become spoiled and expectations are way to high for this young of a team. Give them time to go through some of the growning pains. Teams have to experience going through adversity before they become an elite team.

Oden is really starting to develop and that means he needs more touches and those touches are coming from our other 2 stars who will need to learn how to play off a good big man. I'm already starting to see Roy spot up for Oden and Oden's doing a good job finding Roy for open shots. Just be patient and give them TIME!

My only concern is Nate's substitution pattern sucks ass! He needs to get a feel for the game and not base his substitution patterns on the 6 minute mark of the game clock.
 
There is nothing wrong with Roy but he doesn't fit with the team the Blazers have around him!

Roy is a slow half court minded player. Perfect for the Jazz, Spurs or Celtics not a run and gun team like ours that is being neutered by his mentality and Nate's lack of abililty to see past predictable half court sets. Your star has to have tempo with his team. Roy does not!!!


If we traded Roy and Webster right now for Wade we'd be in the western conference finals this year! Wade would excell with a PG like Andre, a dominant center like Oden, and a gifted PF in LA. Further our team would be playing into it's strengths rather than adjusted away from them.

Roy is a 33 speed record in a digital world. He's an allstar for a different team!
 
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