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How are you feeling about Scoot?

  • Not worried at all. He was predicted to be a star and he'll be one.

    Votes: 13 17.6%

  • Too soon to tell, literally pointless to make judgments this early

    Votes: 30 40.5%

  • Too soon to tell, but wondering where his head's at

    Votes: 17 23.0%

  • Starting to get genuinely worried. What exactly is his NBA skill?

    Votes: 8 10.8%

  • Fuck, we wasted a top three pick

    Votes: 6 8.1%
  • Total voters
    74
He is 19 years old and he’s playing the most talented position in the NBA. I think people forget how bad Shaedon looked last year at the start. Aside from some explosive dunks, he looked completely lost on offense and defense.
 
I think Scoot is second-guessing himself. I haven't seen him shoot a midrange shot AT ALL, and that's his bread and butter. Has he been told to cut that shit out? He never puts his head down and drives to the hoop. Is he worried about getting stripped? Is he being told to run plays first and foremost?
 
Sure why not, might as well go full meltdown mode. Even if the pick becomes wasted, there will be more top 3 picks in the future… to waste
 
I mean, I can see why, from a development point of view, you'd want to put him in with the starters and tell him "you're bottom of the totem pole", but I'd really much prefer to have him come off the bench with carte blanche to play his game.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I think Scoot is second-guessing himself. I haven't seen him shoot a midrange shot AT ALL, and that's his bread and butter. Has he been told to cut that shit out? He never puts his head down and drives to the hoop. Is he worried about getting stripped? Is he being told to run plays first and foremost?
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It's a mystery, isn't it? I'm wondering if having all these different ex point guards in his ear isn't hurting. This is where the head coach needs to step in and simplify.
 
Scoot and Ayton don't look like the players they were.
I expected the Blazers to have them attacking the hoop together, like we saw for one brief moment where Scoot made a fantastic pass to Ayton.
Meanwhile, Jerami Grant is the featured player in Chauncey's offense.

I don't know what the heck Billups is trying to accomplish.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Scoot and Ayton don't look like the players they were.
I expected the Blazers to have them attacking the hoop together, like we saw for one brief moment where Scoot made a fantastic pass to Ayton.
Meanwhile, Jerami Grant is the featured player in Chauncey's offense.

I don't know what the heck Billups is trying to accomplish.
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I think Billups is an absolutely atrocious coach. Give the reins to Scottie Brooks and get Vanderpool back while we look for a new head coach. Billups is absolute garbage. Without Dame it's crystal clear he can't coach.
 
Scoot had a dunk, and didn't shoot any airballs.
his best night as a Blazer so far
 
It’s still too early to call him a complete bust. Being that we drafted him as our future franchise player though it’s a little concerning looking at it in that perspective.
 
HailBlazers said:
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I would like to see Scoot and Ayton running the court together at every opportunity.
Scoot's passing ability is much better than we've seen in the regular season so far.
Ayton is a better scorer on the move than we've seen so far.
I though that's what this season was going to be all about, or at least a main part of it.
It's sad and frustrating watching Scoot being played as if he's Damian Lillard. I can't imagine he suddenly decided by himself to not take mid-range shots or dribble through the defense looking to pass.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He is 19 years old and he’s playing the most talented position in the NBA. I think people forget how bad Shaedon looked last year at the start. Aside from some explosive dunks, he looked completely lost on offense and defense.
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Shaedon wasn’t the #3 pick and didn’t play competitive basketball for nearly (2?) years.
 
Predator said:
Shaedon wasn’t the #3 pick and didn’t play competitive basketball for nearly (2?) years.
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Would Shaedon be the 7th pick if that draft was redone?

He was the 7th pick because nobody had seen him in over a year.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Would Shaedon be the 7th pick if that draft was redone?

He was the 7th pick because nobody had seen him in over a year.
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Obviously if you know what you know now, he probably doesn’t go 7th.

But that wasn’t my point.

My point was: At the time of the draft, it was anticipated that Shaedon would suck for a while because he hadn’t played competitive basketball in a long time and had virtually no experience in an actual system. Comparing that to Scoot, who was largely seen as ready now because he played in the G League is an apples to oranges comparison.

You're kind of making my point for me. If we drafted Scoot @ 7 with the understanding that he probably wouldn’t be a rotation player this year, I think you’d see a lot less concern than you’re currently seeing.
 
Idog1976 said:
I think he'd quite possibly be the #2-3 pick, no lower than #4.
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I think there is virtually no chance he goes 2/3. Jabari and Chet had STRONG BPA cases and filled a position of need.
I think #4 is a toss up.
Certainly 5/6 he goes.
 
Predator said:
Obviously if you know what you know now, he probably doesn’t go 7th.

But that wasn’t my point.

My point was: At the time of the draft, it was anticipated that Shaedon would suck for a while because he hadn’t played competitive basketball in a long time and had virtually no experience in an actual system. Comparing that to Scoot, who was largely seen as ready now because he played in the G League is an apples to oranges comparison.

You're kind of making my point for me. If we drafted Scoot @ 7 with the understanding that he probably wouldn’t be a rotation player this year, I think you’d see a lot less concern than you’re currently seeing.
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The thing that's concerning to me is that I'm not seeing confidence from Scoot. I expect mistakes. I'd actually be fine if he was missing shots but he was still jacking them up. He looks like he's in over his head. He's deferring. He's afraid of making mistakes. He looks out of his depth. I didn't expect that.

But we also didn't draft him to be good right away. We drafted him because we think he will be good... period. So whether it's this season or next season or in three years, the only thing that matters is that he still turns out to be good.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The thing that's concerning to me is that I'm not seeing confidence from Scoot. I expect mistakes. I'd actually be fine if he was missing shots but he was still jacking them up. He looks like he's in over his head. He's deferring. He's afraid of making mistakes. He looks out of his depth. I didn't expect that.

But we also didn't draft him to be good right away. We drafted him because we think he will be good... period. So whether it's this season or next season or in three years, the only thing that matters is that he still turns out to be good.
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Well, here’s the thing.

I didn’t expect him to be good right away.

But a lot of people did. Including our own GM.

And that was definitely a factor into where he was drafted.

I believe the standard on top 3-5 picks (or so) is that they’ll be contributors immediately. Maybe not GOOD, but at least around replacement level. After that is when I think teams just start swinging on potential.

But I agree with you. Doesn’t matter what he is this year or next year. Just matters that, in the end, he is what he thought he was.
 
To me, Scoot looks like a 19 year-old kid who dominated the G League with his quickness and strength. He’s finding out that relying on those traits isn’t enough when you’re up against starting caliber players who are bigger, stronger, and faster than the guys he played against previously. That was my big concern when he was drafted. It’s not that he’s a bust, it’s that he’s going to have to develop more facets to his game. Learning to shoot better would be a big help.
 
Quatro44 said:
Sure why not, might as well go full meltdown mode. Even if the pick becomes wasted, there will be more top 3 picks in the future… to waste
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Im not about to call him a bust. He’s young and needs time define himself. With that said, if he is a bust, note who drafted him. Joe Cronin a numbers guy. A capologist who is prob best suited in that role. So if he goes that direction, Joe prob shouldn’t be doing the drafting.

When you are drafting that it’s best to get the sure thing. If you look at some of teams previous drafts in which they drafted that high in the last 20 years. They’ve done great in picking a guy who was ready to produce. Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Damian Lillard. All great picks and we’re ready to produce on day one and they did. It’s not to much to ask the guy they took at three is ready to produce. Being a lottery team they can use it. Kevin Pritchard and his line of advisors including did great in picking the right guy. Including Chad Buchanan who did most of the work on Damian. I’ve got concerns with Cronin. And before you say Shaedon..,I love his athletic ability but I’m not completely sold on him as most of you are. It’s wait and see on both players. But if they are busts they need to relegate Joe back to being a capologist
 
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OneLifeToLive said:
Im not about to call him a bust. He’s young and needs time define himself. With that said, if he is a bust, note who drafted him. Joe Cronin a numbers guy. A capologist who is prob best suited in that role. So if he goes that direction, Joe prob shouldn’t be doing the drafting.

When you are drafting that it’s best to get the sure thing. If you look at some of teams previous drafts in which they drafted that high in the last 20 years. They’ve done great in picking a guy who was ready to produce. Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Damian Lillard. All great picks and we’re ready to produce on day one and they did. It’s not to much to ask the guy they took at three is ready to produce. Being a lottery team they can use it. Kevin Pritchard and his line of advisors including did great in picking the right guy. Including Chad Buchanan who did most of the work on Damian. I’ve got concerns with Cronin. And before you say Shaedon..,I love his athletic ability but I’m not completely sold on him as most of you are. It’s wait and see on both players. But if they are busts they need to relegate Joe back to being a capologist
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Look at the guys drafted after him. There wasn’t a sure thing available.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He is 19 years old and he’s playing the most talented position in the NBA. I think people forget how bad Shaedon looked last year at the start. Aside from some explosive dunks, he looked completely lost on offense and defense.
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Shaedon looked great in his debut.
 
I was skeptical about Scoot initially. A guard who lacks a jumper can be a liability in today’s game and I was worried that people were enamored with a few highlight dunks they saw on YouTube.

Then I started coming around to the idea that he would make an impact since so many outlets were raving about him.

Now that I see him play more, he seems like his body is a few steps ahead of his brain and that lack of a jump shot is hurting his ability to drive. I know he’s supposed to be confident, but I worry that he’ll keep missing and then it becomes an even bigger mental block. I still have hope that he can turn it around and I won’t call him a bust this year. I just hope he gets in a ton of shooting practice and learns to slow down mentally.
 
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