Scoot/Sharpe/Ayton - Our Big Three?

[Everything Beagle]

It hit me that these three kids will likely be starting as the first, second, and third options on the team this season, all top ten picks, two in the top three. It feels like we backed into a future Big Three in basically a single summer. I know Grant is probably our main scoring option right now, but how excited are you for these three in particular?

 

[Hoopguru]

It hit me that these three kids will likely be starting as the first, second, and third options on the team this season, all top ten picks, two in the top three. It feels like we backed into a future Big Three in basically a single summer. I know Grant is probably our main scoring option right now, but how excited are you for these three in particular?

Im excited to see them push the ball and defend better. If Ayton can stay healthy and motivated and I think he will, should be fun.

 

[illmatic99]

Everyone is sleeping on Ant.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It hit me that these three kids will likely be starting as the first, second, and third options on the team this season, all top ten picks, two in the top three. It feels like we backed into a future Big Three in basically a single summer. I know Grant is probably our main scoring option right now, but how excited are you for these three in particular?

Um, if we don't do any more trades, it's quite possible that two of those three don't start.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Everyone is sleeping on Ant.

I don't think anyone is. The only thing they're sleeping on is his fit with a successful team. Monta Ellis was an all-star and the Warriors had the foresight to move him for a more traditional backcourt.

To the OG question, I'm super excited about Scoot, Shae and Ayton as a three-headed monster. Just have to continue to add defensive personnel around the foundation.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Um, if we don't do any more trades, it's quite possible that two of those three don't start.

Fair enough, but I don't see anyone on this roster more qualified than Scoot and Shaedon at PG and SG. I think you're trying to say we'll start Simons and Thybulle instead? Which isn't impossible, but Thybulle didn't exactly outperform Shaedon, and Antony doesn't have the ceiling Scoot does. Maybe in October we see Simons start, but it's pretty obvious Scoot is our future unless Simons suddenly destroys the league.

 

[wizenheimer]

it's a damn long ways from Unknown 0.67 to Big 3.0

 

[maxiep]

If those three hit their ceiling, and we're able to surround them with impactful pieces, we're in the hunt. That's all you can ask.

 

[BankTeller]

I’m hesitant to say this really is our big 3. The question is still remains whether Shae can effectively play at the 3 and if Ant and Scoot can coexist.

Right now, I’m happy to have two guys that are for sure part of our future, many teams can’t say that going into a rebuild year. We also have two highly productive players in Grant and Ant, one of whom can still be a star—this will literally be his first full year as the #1 option. I LOVE the idea of not making Scoot a primary scorer off the bat. There’s a lot of offensive talent on this team. A lot of highly drafted PGs go to a team depleted of any offensive talent and have to shoulder the load from day 1, Scoot won’t. Billups knows the path to becoming a HOF PG.

We also don’t know what DA will be. It’d be awesome to be confident that he will be, but what if Sarr comes here and wows us with his Mobley-esque abilities. There might be more than a few that will convince themselves Sarr is really the third one in the big 3.

So who knows. Let’s see Ant as the #1 option, let’s see DA get more touches and see if that leads to any engagement on the defensive end of the floor.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Everyone is sleeping on Ant.

Totally agree. I believe Ant will be far and away our best player next season, with Scoot and Sharpe a distant 2nd/3rd.

I guess Ayton could become 2nd or arguably 1st ala Nurks Bosnian Beast first few months here. I just think of him as more of a JR Rider type flyer than a key long term foundational core piece.

Super excited to see how this actually plays out on the court. There's some surprises and disappointments every year. So much better we are going with this new direction than bringing the band back with small changes for year #12

 

[BankTeller]

Totally agree. I believe Ant will be far and away our best player next season, with Scoot and Sharpe a distant 2nd/3rd.

I guess Ayton could become 2nd or arguably 1st ala Nurks Bosnian Beast first few months here. I just think of him as more of a JR Rider type flyer than a key long term foundational core piece.

Super excited to see how this actually plays out on the court. There's some surprises and disappointments every year. So much better we are going with this new direction then running it back with small changes for year #12

When he was the #1 option, he was pretty much a more efficient Trae Young, with half the playmaking ability.

I’m really excited to see Ant as the #1 option. I’m going to be slightly optimistic and say 26ppg, similar or slightly better FG% with a trend upward to his averages shooting the 3.

Less taking taking several dribbles to end up jacking up a 3. More dribbling into a 3 off a DA pick, more catch and shoots. More driving to the basket and hopefully even just a 2 FTA increase. He was going through guys his size like Trae when he gets to the basket.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Fair enough, but I don't see anyone on this roster more qualified than Scoot and Shaedon at PG and SG. I think you're trying to say we'll start Simons and Thybulle instead? Which isn't impossible, but Thybulle didn't exactly outperform Shaedon, and Antony doesn't have the ceiling Scoot does. Maybe in October we see Simons start, but it's pretty obvious Scoot is our future unless Simons suddenly destroys the league.

Simons and Brogdon.

 

[illmatic99]

Totally agree. I believe Ant will be far and away our best player next season, with Scoot and Sharpe a distant 2nd/3rd.

I guess Ayton could become 2nd or arguably 1st ala Nurks Bosnian Beast first few months here. I just think of him as more of a JR Rider type flyer than a key long term foundational core piece.

Super excited to see how this actually plays out on the court. There's some surprises and disappointments every year. So much better we are going with this new direction than bringing the band back with small changes for year #12

I think Ant will be a very clear #1. Ayton, 2. Grant, 3. Scoot, 4.

Don't see Shaedon being our 5th best player either but would be pleasantly surprised.

 

[PCmor7]

Everyone is sleeping on Ant.

He's going to be our leading scorer this year. Grant might average 20 again, but he won't score what Ant will.

 

[riverman]

I think Ant is going to be marketed as the franchise guy and they'll probably call Ant, Grant and Ayton the big 3 to start out. I'd trade Ant and keep Brogdon but that's why I'm such a famous in demand GM

 

[BankTeller]

I think Ant will be a very clear #1. Ayton, 2. Grant, 3. Scoot, 4.

Don't see Shaedon being our 5th best player either but would be pleasantly surprised.

I think Scoot will end up being the #3 option over Grant. Grant averaged like 14 FGA last year and averaged an efficient 20. He’ll probably be getting a few shots off at the end of the clock and a lot of catch and shoot 3s. He won’t be getting multiple post-ups or anything like that.

Scoot probably will end up with more FGA than Grant imo.

 

[blazerfan11]

I think Ant will be a very clear #1. Ayton, 2. Grant, 3. Scoot, 4.

Don't see Shaedon being our 5th best player either but would be pleasantly surprised.

Sharpe is #1 on my list of who to give the ball to for a winning shot.
I trust him more than Simons because of his length and hops that allow him to put defenders on their heels and shoot right over them, even right over Rudy Gobert. Sharpe's finishing ability is Brandoy-Roy-esque.

 

[Hoopguru]

Everyone is sleeping on Ant.

and Grant...he's going to want his touches.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Sharpe is #1 on my list of who to give the ball to for a winning shot.
I trust him more than Simons because of his length and hops that allow him to put defenders on their heels and shoot right over them, even right over Rudy Gobert. Sharpe's finishing ability is Brandoy-Roy-esque.

Sharpe has these moments that are jaw dropping, but then he has 4 poor mistakes in the following minutes. Long term I might agree with you, but for next season on an every play basis I see Ant as way more polished and effective.

 

[inconceivable]

I think Ant will be a very clear #1. Ayton, 2. Grant, 3. Scoot, 4.

Don't see Shaedon being our 5th best player either but would be pleasantly surprised.

Maybe next season, but I won't be surprised if Sharpe becomes #1 when we're actually in contention

 

[Idog1976]

My biggest concern is that I think we have GOT to start Sharpe. I worry that Billups will have him as a 6th man. I am assuming Brogdon is gone in my calculus here, but I really don't want to see Sharpe off the Bench, I want him next to Scoot in the backcourt and I don't see that happening as long as we have Simons. The one reason I'm OK with starting Simons (who is certainly better as a player right now than Sharpe) is because I want to see his trade capital go sky high before we trade him and perhaps Timelord/Grant for our SF/PF of the future (I'd also accept 2 FRPs).

 

[Idog1976]

I think Ant will be a very clear #1. Ayton, 2. Grant, 3. Scoot, 4.

Don't see Shaedon being our 5th best player either but would be pleasantly surprised.

You don't see Sharpe as our 5th best player next year?!?! WOW! Prepare to be pleasantly surprised!

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Maybe next season, but I won't be surprised if Sharpe becomes #1 when we're actually in contention

I guess it depends how you define that "#1". PPG as well as scoring 1v1 yes I think he has that. Scoot has a leadership ability, an "it" factor, and command of the offense on the court. Can argue endlessly about which is more crucial to wins or a title.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

My biggest concern is that I think we have GOT to start Sharpe. I worry that Billups will have him as a 6th man. I am assuming Brogdon is gone in my calculus here, but I really don't want to see Sharpe off the Bench, I want him next to Scoot in the backcourt and I don't see that happening as long as we have Simons. The one reason I'm OK with starting Simons (who is certainly better as a player right now than Sharpe) is because I want to see his trade capital go sky high before we trade him and perhaps Timelord/Grant for our SF/PF of the future (I'd also accept 2 FRPs).

Dude is 20, he will be fine as a 6th man in an OKC Harden role next year. Might actually be better for his development than starting and being the 4th offensive option.

 

[Idog1976]

Dude is 20, he will be fine as a 6th man in an OKC Harden role next year. Might actually be better for his development than starting and being the 4th offensive option.

Yeah that's true, I'm just super ready to move on from Simons (assuming a good return obviously) and have Sharpe as our SG. I like Simons, but Sharpe's potential is limitless and we need to harness it.

 

[inconceivable]

My biggest concern is that I think we have GOT to start Sharpe. I worry that Billups will have him as a 6th man. I am assuming Brogdon is gone in my calculus here, but I really don't want to see Sharpe off the Bench, I want him next to Scoot in the backcourt and I don't see that happening as long as we have Simons. The one reason I'm OK with starting Simons (who is certainly better as a player right now than Sharpe) is because I want to see his trade capital go sky high before we trade him and perhaps Timelord/Grant for our SF/PF of the future (I'd also accept 2 FRPs).

I respect Ant's game and I also prefer starting Sharpe. But I expect Chauncey to start Scoot at PG and Ant at SG with Shae backing up SG, because of seniority and Shaedon is not better than Ant yet.

Scoot, Ant
Sharpe, Tisse
Grant, Knox
Murray, Walker
Ayton, Timelord

We need PF but I like our team

 

[Idog1976]

I respect Ant's game and I also prefer starting Sharpe. But I expect Chauncey to start Scoot at PG and Ant at SG with Shae backing up SG, because of seniority and Shaedon is not better than Ant yet.

Scoot, Ant
Sharpe, Tisse
Grant, Knox
Murray, Walker
Ayton, Timelord

We need PF but I like our team

I see us with this rotation, it's not what I want, but it's what I expect and it likely is better to boost Ant's trade value, and also to bring Sharpe along against lesser bench talent where he will dominate and get plenty of shots.

Scoot -Ant
Ant - Sharpe
Thybulle - Sharpe
Grant - Murray - Walker
Ayton - Timelord

That's actually a totally decent lineup, I could see us barely making the play-in. I can't wait to see what we get from Brogdon!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

He's going to be our leading scorer this year. Grant might average 20 again, but he won't score what Ant will.

If we kept Brogdon and had a starting lineup of Brogdon, Ant, Jerami, Williams and Ayton it would be a bit like the Iverson finals team, with Ant playing a low-rent Iverson. Everybody else plays defense and leaves the scoring to him.

 

[noknobs]

If we're keeping all three I'd much prefer starting Scoot/Sharpe and using Ant like a super-sub backing both of them up. Makes way more sense than Sharpe coming off the bench. Plenty of minutes for all three and who ends the game is another matter.

 

[inconceivable]

I see us with this rotation, it's not what I want, but it's what I expect and it likely is better to boost Ant's trade value, and also to bring Sharpe along against lesser bench talent where he will dominate and get plenty of shots.

Scoot -Ant
Ant - Sharpe
Thybulle - Sharpe
Grant - Murray - Walker
Ayton - Timelord

That's actually a totally decent lineup, I could see us barely making the play-in. I can't wait to see what we get from Brogdon!

Rebounding will be an issue with that starting group