Screw it, I think veterans would be nice.

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I'd really like a veteran superstar who can teach our team how to win. Who can get in the face of either Roy or LMA, and who can feed Oden the ball. One that Nate can trust.

Yeah, there's a lot to be said for our SF problems. But seriously, and I don't care if it makes the entire forum here barf all over me, I'd break the bank for Nash (and less so for Kidd).

I'm skeptical about how good this team can get on their own. So we can either "bake it" without a few missing ingredients, or, just go All-Veteran
Note: I did NOT say "trade for old scrubs"
While this is a major pipe dream, it does present a relatively (IMO) equitable solution to a few problems teams have right now.

PHX blows it up. For Shaq, Nash and Amare (46M this year, more next year) they get Bayless and Thomas, as well as $25M in expiring contracts (including RLEC). They have to pick up Jaric, which kinda throws a wrench in it, but he needed to be moved. Heck, just not paying Shaq next year more than covers the rest of Jaric's entire contract. They get the MEM 1st (top 2 protected)

MEM moves Gay, their 1st, and their two bad contracts (Darko and Jaric) to get Amare, Outlaw and Blake's expiring contract. That leaves them with PG: Lowry/Conley/Blake, SG: Mayo, SF: Outlaw PF: Amare C: Gasol. Amare's the Man there, and some talent to go with him.

CHI gives up Deng and Gooden and TT for Gay, Przy and Diogu and Darko...two contracts that expire before 2010. They significantly upgrade their frontline, and switch from Deng to Gay.

We do a mass consolidation, getting good veterans at our positions of need. I thought about Hinrich for us instead of Nash (makes the trade scenario a bit easier), but in the end I think Nash would make our players so much better it's not even funny. He's used to tossing it down to Shaq, he could get Oden involved, etc. Shaq's got at least 18 months left in the tank, especially if he's getting 25-30 mpg on a team that's going for it all. Deng is a pretty good SF for us. We're thinner, now, but significantly better in the top 8.

Nash/Sergio
Roy/Rudy
Deng/Batum/Webster
LMA/Shav
Oden/Shaq

We're left a bit thin up front. We have to sign a vet-minimum PF. I'd go to war with that. :)

Plus, 30M in expiring contracts before the summer of LBJ
 
Hmm, so Blake, Bayless, Outlaw, RLEC, CFEC and IDEC for Nash, Deng and Shaq?

Sure, I guess I'd do that. If Shaq were okay with coming off the bench...which he wouldn't be, I don't think.
 
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Nash, Deng and Shaq without giving up our big 3 and a chance at LeBron? Sounds good to me too. The premise, though, of trading for a veteran, I wouldn't mind if we don't have to break the bank for it especially for these last 30 games.
 
Hmm, so Blake, Bayless, Outlaw, RLEC, CFEC and IDEC for Nash, Deng and Shaq?

Sure, I guess I'd do that. If Shaq were okay with coming off the bench...which he wouldn't be, I don't think.

Heck - Oden should be delighted to come off the bench after Shaq for a year or two. Who better to teach him? Not to mention that he would start whenever Shaq needs to rest on a back-to-back.

The real problem, of course, is that Nash is going to be marginalized in Portland's offense next to Roy and with a pound-the-ball inside offense built around Shaq/Oden.
 
I'd really like a veteran superstar who can teach our team how to win. Who can get in the face of either Roy or LMA, and who can feed Oden the ball. One that Nate can trust.

There is no Vet out there that is going to get in the face of BROY other than Shaq, and Shaq is part of the reason why Phoenix is blowing it up.

But Nash would be nice for a year and a half.
 
Nash, Deng and Shaq without giving up our big 3 and a chance at LeBron? Sounds good to me too.

How would Portland have a shot at a 2010 free agent? This deal doesn't rid the team of any major contracts that wouldn't have expired by then anyway and brings in Deng, who's got a big salary. Deng plus extensions to Roy and Aldridge will put them well over the cap even after Shaq and Nash expire.

Of course, maybe next year at the deadline, Nash and Shaq will be nice trade chips as expiring deals. ;)
 
How would Portland have a shot at a 2010 free agent? This deal doesn't rid the team of any major contracts that wouldn't have expired by then anyway and brings in Deng, who's got a big salary. Deng plus extensions to Roy and Aldridge will put them well over the cap even after Shaq and Nash expire.

Of course, maybe next year at the deadline, Nash and Shaq will be nice trade chips as expiring deals. ;)

I'm not sure. I was just going off the OP and the last line that we'd have $30 mil in expiring before the summer of LeBron, I assume he meant we would have cap space in that summer. I didn't really bother to think it over.
 
Battier!

Failing that, and given that Nash was the ONE Sun who was deemed untouchable, Andre Miller.
 
Nash, Deng and Shaq without giving up our big 3 and a chance at LeBron? Sounds good to me too. The premise, though, of trading for a veteran, I wouldn't mind if we don't have to break the bank for it especially for these last 30 games.

Chance at Labron? What are you smoking Alex?
 
wow light bulbs going on....finally????

just sad...
 
Meh, I'd rather keep Bayless than get Nash and Shaq.

Agreed, and you can insert just about anyone currently in our rotation into that sentence.

The window on Nash and Shaq closed a couple years ago for anyone building a dynasty, which is what we're doing.
 
Agreed, and you can insert just about anyone currently in our rotation into that sentence.

The window on Nash and Shaq closed a couple years ago for anyone building a dynasty, which is what we're doing.

It's unrealistic to keep ALL the players we currently have.

Some unneeded pieces like Blake, Sergio, Outlaw will eventually go.
 
omg... we cant trade sergio or outlaw!!!!!!!!

who will give up 20 points a night to the other team!!!!!!!!

nooooooooooo
 
well phoenix kind of threw in the towel and traded for vets and it didn't turn out so well for them...but then again when you have steve kerr calling the shots your ship is bound to crash no matter what kind of talant you have. in KP we trust
 
vince and wallace are out


its either jefferson or butler
 
Damn, he looks great in our uni!

Sign me up. I'd be ecstatic with Butler, Wallace, or Carter. Just please don't let it be Jefferson.
 

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