Sean Williams fails to make Rookie 2nd Team

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Al Horford and Rookie of the Year Kevin Durant headlined the NBA All-Rookie team announced Tuesday. Atlanta's Horford was the only unanimous choice with 58 votes, followed by Seattle's Durant with 57 in balloting by the league's head coaches. Houston's Luis Scola (53), Los Angeles Clippers forward Al Thornton (48) and Seattle's Jeff Green (43) also made the first team.

The All-Rookie second team was Toronto's Jamario Moon, Memphis' Juan Carlos Navarro, Philadelphia's Thaddeus Young, Detroit's Rodney Stuckey and Houston's Carl Landry.</div>

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[ghoti]

I wouldn't take any of them off for him.

I would take Green off the first team and replace him with literally any of the five second teamers. Probably Navarro if I had to choose.

 

[Belarus]

Sean Williams's abysmal second half of the season does not allow him to qualify for even third all-rookie team. I hope he's now reading the books how to defend in the game of basketball instead of puffing magic dragon. I expect some progress from him in the next season. If not, I'll have to admit Black Republican was right on SWAT.

 

[reganomics813]

He didn't deserve to make it but I think this could help put that motivational chip on his shoulder. I'm sure he's not the kinda cat that sweats this kinda thing but he strikes me as the kind of competitor that, in the back of his brain, says the guys that made these lists aren't that hot and will go out and prove it one way or another.

I know he had some real nice flashes during this past season but we gotta remember the kid wasn't even supposed to be in the rotation this year being rusty from the long layoff from BC. He worked his way in but ultimately he is still a raw kid who has a ton of upside with plenty left to learn.

This offseason will be our first real look into his work ethic and we'll see if he keeps making forward progress or if he gets hung up on the same old stuff. I still hold ALOT of hope for him and I think having some time this summer to process everything that was thrown at him is exactly what a kid like him needs.

I really hope he's still here by the beginning of next season.

 

[o.iatlhawksfan]

Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>
Josh Boone and Nenad.

 

[reganomics813]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>

Haha it's not exact science when yer picking outside of the lottery every season.

Wright i'll give you but Marcus and Sean will be fine.

 

[Claud]

Sean needs to improve so much next season.. i really hope he pulls it out.

 

[reganomics813]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 15 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sean needs to improve so much next season.. i really hope he pulls it out.</div>


Personally, I think that's the wrong approach with a kid like Sean. As much as we'd all like to see immediate returns for the overall benefit of the team we should be focusing on him steadily improving on the little things that put his butt on the bench when we needed him. We need patience while he figures it all out or we're going to watch another team benefit from the groundwork we are laying.

 

[User01]

I was just thinking about how awesome it would be if he improved next season as much as Boone did into his 2nd season.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>

Since when does not making an all-rookie team doom one's career?

 

[o.iatlhawksfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813 @ May 15 2008, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>

Haha it's not exact science when yer picking outside of the lottery every season.

Wright i'll give you but Marcus and Sean will be fine.
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but didn't all the "experts" say Sean and Marcus was lottery talent.

 

[o.iatlhawksfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 15 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>

Since when does not making an all-rookie team doom one's career?
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I'm not judging base off that, after Marcus rookie year, I remember Nets fan saying he was overhyped, and it's pretty similar with Sean Williams.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 15 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>

Since when does not making an all-rookie team doom one's career?
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I'm not judging base off that, after Marcus rookie year, I remember Nets fan saying he was overhyped, and it's pretty similar with Sean Williams.
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The critique of Sean is totally different than that of Marcus Williams. You have to look at the context; different expectations, different complaints, different backgrounds.

 

[ghoti]

Marcus was in almost every mock lottery up until the day of the draft.

I never saw Sean Williams in any lottery. 17 was the highest I saw him and that's where he went. (Still a good pick, too)i

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Rookie_Team

Marcus Williams made the 2nd team. Hmmm

 

[Денг Гордон]

Noah didn't make it either (although he did fall only one vote shy)...and I suppose it's a good thing that noone from that Bulls team is going to be rewarded for what they did.

Sean Williams was an obvious pick just based on his natural talents.

 

[o.iatlhawksfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 15 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 15 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>

Since when does not making an all-rookie team doom one's career?
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I'm not judging base off that, after Marcus rookie year, I remember Nets fan saying he was overhyped, and it's pretty similar with Sean Williams.
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The critique of Sean is totally different than that of Marcus Williams. You have to look at the context; different expectations, different complaints, different backgrounds.
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it doesn't matter how different it was, it still mostly criticism.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Rookie_Team

Marcus Williams made the 2nd team. Hmmm</div>

yea in one of the weaker rookie classes<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Marcus was in almost every mock lottery up until the day of the draft.

I never saw Sean Williams in any lottery. 17 was the highest I saw him and that's where he went. (Still a good pick, too)</div>

Sean was projected, because most teams didn't want to take a risk on him cause on character issues, but almost everyone said if it wasn't for that, he'd be a lottery pick.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 15 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 15 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow wats up with the Nets draft picks? Antione Wright, then Marcus Williams, and now maybe Sean Williams</div>

Since when does not making an all-rookie team doom one's career?
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I'm not judging base off that, after Marcus rookie year, I remember Nets fan saying he was overhyped, and it's pretty similar with Sean Williams.
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The critique of Sean is totally different than that of Marcus Williams. You have to look at the context; different expectations, different complaints, different backgrounds.
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it doesn't matter how different it was, it still mostly criticism.</div>

1) Read what's in bold

2) So Sean Williams isn't the perfect player. What's your point? Are you trying to say that the Nets draft picks are doomed because neither one is without some flaw? Who isn't?

 

[o.iatlhawksfan]

I aon't saying their complete bust, but both had mediocre to disappointing rookie seasons.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I aon't saying their complete bust, but both had mediocre to disappointing rookie seasons.</div>

How many people of the draft class, picked around 17, had GREAT years? They're rookies, man. It's like you had one good year with Horford and expect everyone to meet his production (given his role on his team).

 

[o.iatlhawksfan]

he was taken 17 because of character issue, everybody hype him as a lottery type talent, and he failed to show it. Like I said I'm not calling him a bust, but he had a disappointing season, considering everyone was saying that about him.

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everybody hype him as a lottery type talent, and he failed to show it.</div>

Yes he did. He tied the Nets rookie record for blocks in a game with eight. The first game he started, against Shaq, he put up 22/8. He was a lottery pick for his defense, but showed the foundation for a previously unknown post and mid-range game. As for what people were saying about him? Well they were saying that he hadn't played a full season of basketball since high school, and was then expected to play 82 games. That's beyond just physical requirements, too; that also deals with the fact that this guy is being asked to perform at the highest level without having an extensive knowledge of organized basketball. So forget about him being on the verge of a bust. He was the 17th pick of the draft and met the expectations set for him. Don't confuse potential (what he could become) with expectation (what he could show his first year).

 

[reganomics813]

He wasn't even supposed to play this season and he worked his way into a veteran rotation. I'd say that's none to shabby off a year hiatus from organized ball. He was a steal at 17 from an athleticism standpoint but I defy you to find one quote from our organization going head over heels for him without it being quickly followed up by a "he still has alot to learn" type of comment.

Whoever this 'everybody' was that was saying these great things about Sean had probably only seen him a handful of times up to that point. He's potential personified and sometimes that takes time to fulfill.

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 15 2008, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he was taken 17 because of character issue, everybody hype him as a lottery type talent, and he failed to show it.</div>

He was one of the top 15 players in the draft, that's for sure. Top 15 players in the draft... don't you classify that as lottery-type talent? After all, the top 15 players are expected to get drafted in the lottery.