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SEASIDE, Calif. —
A teacher who also serves as a reserve police officer accidentally fired a gun inside a Seaside High School classroom Tuesday, police said, and three students were injured.

Dennis Alexander was teaching a course about gun safety for his Administration of Justice class when his gun went off at 1:20 p.m.


Alexander was pointing his gun at the ceiling when it fired. Pieces of the ceiling fell to the ground.

A press release from the Seaside Police Department said no one suffered "serious injuries." One 17-year-old boy suffered moderate injuries when fragments from the bullet ricocheted off the ceiling and lodged into his neck, the student's father, Fermin Gonzales, told KSBW.

The teacher had just told the class that he wanted to make sure his gun wasn't loaded, when the gun fired, according to Gonzales.

"It's the craziest thing. It could have been very bad," Gonzales said.

The teacher was about to use the gun for a demonstration for how to disarm someone, according to Gonzales.

Everyone in the classroom was stunned, and the teacher, who is a reserve officer for the Sand City Police Department, apologized.

But no one at the school checked to make sure that all of the students were uninjured, Gonzales said. The school day resumed as normal, and Seaside Police Department officers launched an investigation.

The 17-year-old boy's parents were shocked when he returned home with blood on his shirt and bullet fragments in his neck. The student's parents rushed him to a hospital for X-rays.

"He's shaken up, but he's going to be OK," Gonzales told KSBW. "I'm just pretty upset that no one told us anything and we had to call the police ourselves to report it."

Alexander was placed on administrative leave from his teaching position at Seaside High School, and he was also placed on administrative leave at the Sand City Police Department.

Sand City Police Chief Brian Ferrante told KSBW, "I have concerns about why he was displaying a loaded firearm in a classroom. We will be looking into that."

Ferrante said Alexander has been a reserve Sand City police officer for the past 11 years, and described his track record as "positive and professional." The 2013 Reserve Officer of the Year is also a Seaside City Council member and Red Cross volunteer. KSBW interviewed Alexander in 2015 while he was volunteering for the Red Cross to help victims of the Tassajara Fire.

Teachers are not legally allowed to have firearms in California classrooms, even if they have a concealed carry permit.

Whether to arm teachers with guns on campus to make American schools safer has been a fiery question politically over the past few weeks, following a mass shooting at a Florida high school.

Thousands of students are planning to walk out of their classrooms Wednesday to raise awareness about gun violence and school safety.

One KSBW Facebook fan remarked about the Seaside incident, "This is clear example why teachers shouldn't have a gun. Accidents happen, even to people with experience."

Another Facebook fan quipped, "Oh great.. .Ya let’s give ALL the teachers guns. What could possibly go wrong?"

Students who take Alexander's Administration of Justice class are interested in public safety and becoming a police officer.

"I think a lot of questions on parents' minds are, why a teacher would be pointing a loaded firearm at the ceiling in front of students," Monterey Peninsula Unified School District Superintendent PK Diffenbaugh said. "Clearly in this incident protocols were not followed."

The Superintendent's Office sent a letter to parents reading: "We want to make you aware of an accident that occurred in the Administration of Justice class today at Seaside High School. As some of you may know, the teacher is a reserve police officer. Today, during class, the teacher accidentally discharged his firearm during a lesson while it was pointed at the ceiling. Debris from the ceiling then fell. Upon learning of the incident, our Human Resources department, school site administration and the Seaside Police Department immediately began investigating the incident, including interviewing students in the class. We will also have counseling services available for students. Due to the nature of this personnel incident, we are unable to share any other details. The teacher has been placed on administrative leave for the duration of the on-going investigation. The safety of your student is always our top priority, and we will continue to remain vigilant in our efforts to keep them safe while they are under our care."

http://www.ksbw.com/article/seaside-high-teacher-accidentally-fires-gun-in-class/19426017
 
One 17-year-old boy suffered moderate injuries when fragments from the bullet ricocheted off the ceiling and lodged into his neck, the student's father, Fermin Gonzales, told KSBW.

The 17-year-old boy's parents were shocked when he returned home with blood on his shirt and bullet fragments in his neck. The student's parents rushed him to a hospital for X-rays.

The teacher needs to be fired from the school and the police department.
 
Said so many people, about so many things, ever.
Sorry....love guns all folks want but they have no place in schools...nor do pedophiles...just because you can teach algebra doesn't make a teacher any more emotionally stable than anyone else with anger issues or depression....I think arming teachers is a dumb idea in a world filled with dumb ideas...plenty of people with issues hold down jobs in many fields....does not make them qualified armed security guards
 
Well, that guy sure set back the 'give teachers guns' movement quite a bit...

barfo
 
He was a cop........

So are we saying that cops shouldn't have guns? Is that the message here?
 
He was a cop........

So are we saying that cops shouldn't have guns? Is that the message here?

No, the message here is that if a cop can't control his own weapon (twice now in a couple of weeks) how are we to expect teachers with very limited training to be effective? That's the message.
 
No, the message here is that if a cop can't control his own weapon (twice now in a couple of weeks) how are we to expect teachers with very limited training to be effective? That's the message.

Because hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have concealed carry licenses in this country without issue every day..

Most people aren't stupid enough to pull out a loaded gun and whip it around like a dumbass without checking to make sure it's not loaded.
 
Because hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have concealed carry licenses in this country without issue every day..

Most people aren't stupid enough to pull out a loaded gun and whip it around like a dumbass without checking to make sure it's not loaded.
Most is not all. What happens when a teacher goes into the hallway with a gun and cops come around the corner and shoot the teacher?
 
Because hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have concealed carry licenses in this country without issue every day..

Most people aren't stupid enough to pull out a loaded gun and whip it around like a dumbass without checking to make sure it's not loaded.

You do realize this logic can be turned around on you right?
 
Most is not all. What happens when a teacher goes into the hallway with a gun and cops come around the corner and shoot the teacher?

So first of all, this guy was supposedly teaching a class that involved the gun. Not a bright idea, but if for some reason we went forward with arming teachers, I can't see any reason for the gun to be out unless there was an active shooter situation.

Second, the way that current protocol works is that kids are supposed to stay in place during a shooting and lock the doors, so I'm pretty sure if teachers were armed, they wouldn't go out actively searching for the shooter. They would stay in place, lock the door, and try to protect the kids.
 
You do realize this logic can be turned around on you right?

This guy is literally a cop. Unless people are talking about deputizing all teachers, this isn't the same situation that some people are calling for. He's a reserve police officer. I mean..... come on man..... are you guys saying we should disarm police officers because there's a few dumbass cops out there? Not just in schools but across the board?
 
This guy is literally a cop. Unless people are talking about deputizing all teachers, this isn't the same situation that some people are calling for. He's a reserve police officer. I mean..... come on man..... are you guys saying we should disarm police officers because there's a few dumbass cops out there? Not just in schools but across the board?

You're right. Lets do nothing.
We're all overreacting because of a few dumbasses shooting up a schools.
The majority of kids, young adults, and adults wouldn't shoot up a school so it's no big deal.
 
No, at least not me. I think most feel that teachers won't be suffeciently qualified.
 
You're right. Lets do nothing.
We're all overreacting because of a few dumbasses shooting up a schools.
The majority of kids, young adults, and adults wouldn't shoot up a school so it's no big deal.

Did you automatically just fall back into the usual gun control retort without realizing that this is a thread trying to disprove the idea of arming teachers?

The whole idea is to arm teachers to try to prevent the severity of school shootings. That's doing SOMETHING.

Isn't my turn to say, "you'r right. Let's do nothing."
 
There it is. The common retort. Let's do nothing!

Did you automatically just fall back into the usual gun control retort without realizing that this is a thread trying to disprove the idea of arming teachers?

The whole idea is to arm teachers to try to prevent the severity of school shootings. That's doing SOMETHING.

Isn't my turn to say, "you'r right. Let's do nothing."

It came across in your posts that you were saying.
One single crazy teacher not being responsible with their guns isn't a big deal.
 
It came across in your posts that you were saying.
One single crazy teacher not being responsible with their guns isn't a big deal.

Sorry, but the fact that he's a cop trumps the fact that he's also a teacher. That detail is much more important than the fact that he teaches.
 
Sorry, but the fact that he's a cop trumps the fact that he's also a teacher. That detail is much more important than the fact that he teaches.

Again. I have really no interest in talking about this specific shooting.

Because hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have concealed carry licenses in this country without issue every day..

Most people aren't stupid enough to pull out a loaded gun and whip it around like a dumbass without checking to make sure it's not loaded.

Logic like the bolded always gets turned around on anti-gun people.
Now that it's been turned around on you, and you don't have a response for it....
How about actually engaging in a conversation rather than crossing your arms and stomping your feet?
Doesn't have to be with me.
 
Again. I have really no interest in talking about this specific shooting.



Logic like the bolded always gets turned around on anti-gun people.
Now that it's been turned around on you, and you don't have a response for it....
How about actually engaging in a conversation rather than crossing your arms and stomping your feet?
Doesn't have to be with me.

Okay, let me throw a favorite logic of anti-gun people at you.

"But if it saves even one life, it was worth it!"
 
The chances you'll be threatened with a gun are so much higher than the chances you'll save a life with a gun or someone with a gun will save your life...it's not even close....I've been in countries where children have AK 47s.....if you think they make Afghanistan safer...you're wrong...it's not guns alone that are a huge problem...it's the capacity of the modern automatic weapons and large magazines that change the game...personally I think handguns are a true problem in the US....they are used against people almost exclusively....I own guns and can have the discussion about not needing them..I do believe the world would be better off to not have all these weapons of war about
 
Okay, let me throw a favorite logic of anti-gun people at you.

"But if it saves even one life, it was worth it!"
Saving one life is a bad thing? Wonder how you would feel if that life was your kids?
 
He was a cop........

So are we saying that cops shouldn't have guns? Is that the message here?

That would probably be a good idea, frankly. There is a lot of evidence now that cops do not use their weapons responsibly.

barfo
 

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