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People starting to get is now? Soriano really has made all the difference, eh?
 
They have free agents who will be signed by others. The draft picks will be just as good as what would 've come back in any trade.
 
It's going to be real interesting to see what Assman, I mean Cashman does with this team during the off season.
 
I agree, let them walk, no big deal, and nobody knows what players were put on the table, except for Hughes and Joba of course who nobody wanted for obvious reasons.
 
Messiah717 said:
They have free agents who will be signed by others. The draft picks will be just as good as what would 've come back in any trade.
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Totally disagree. Look what garza brought back. Look what Peavy brought back. The yanks should have dangled Kuroda instead of clinging to false hope.

And i hope they know what they are in for with Cano. If his demands get to high and the smartly let him walk, then its pretty clear they would have been better trading him as well.
 
Messiah717 said:
They have free agents who will be signed by others. The draft picks will be just as good as what would 've come back in any trade.
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you really think so? I think we could have gotten better than with Cano...
 
NY wasn't ready to quit, it's just that simple, how often do we see teams over .500 and still in the mix sell off their best players? like never?
 
When a team has no farm system and not a very good plan for the future and has a flawed roster enough to realize they are not going to make a real run without making significant changes, it should have clicked in. They went and got Soriano, fine. He should not have been the only piece if they really wanted to commit to 2013. At some point during the process they should have realized they would not be able to get enough and changed course. They didnt, and now 2013 is a wash and its going to take a miracle for them to compete in 2014 and for who knows how much longer now. Not ideal.
 
Messiah717 said:
They have free agents who will be signed by others. The draft picks will be just as good as what would 've come back in any trade.
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A draft pick for losing Hughes is a good return, a draft pick for losing Granderson is a good return - a draft pick for losing Cano would be a disaster. As for the draft picks being good - what - another Cito Culver reach? Or how about this year's draft picks - 2 of which have already made it to the hospital.

This team simply has a hard time truly understanding it's competitive place right now - if you BUY Soriano, then you have to BUY other parts to justify that direction. SELL didn't seem to be an option, when it should have been. We can all shoot the shit about whether this team should have been a buyer or a seller - but the Yankees brass should have been more definitive.
 
Can Cano, Granderson, Hughes and Kuroda get through waivers to a contender? I doubt it but the writing is more clear now than at the deadline. It's over Johnny.
 
People also seem to forget Kuroda. Guy is having a monster season, yankees prob could have gotten a load for him. But yea, it would have entailed the yankees waving the whiteflag and the buisness brothers wanted to fool the fanbase into thinking they had a shot to win in 2013 so attendance and ratings dont afll off the map. Gotta keep those pockets lined. Most of us werent fooled. At least they get a nice boost with the A-rod circus.
 
Still, you're asking a team to sell their best players when they're still in the mix and on the plus side, rationalize it all you want, it doesn't happen.
 
When it became clear the yankees were not going to be buyers beyond Soriano, yes, i dont think its illogical. Perhaps now they can dangle some players through waivers. We'll see. Whats done is done, i just hope they have a plan going forward. I have my doubts.
 
Kuroda is not coming back so with the way he's been pitching they would have gotten a nice return for him. Especially to a playoff team. Cano will demand to much from the Yankees & he would have been good for 2 maybe 3 future pieces for this team at the trade dead line.. Now we'll end up getting NOTHING. Not for Kuroda, not for Hughes & definately not for Cano. Nice job Yankee brass................nice job.
 
Here is my take, for the past 15 years or more, the Yankees were always in a win now mode. Mainly due to the core presence of talent and the fact that we were always "One player away from a championship.

Today we are a completely depleted Organization saddled with large contracts with aging players who production will be below major league average going forward. The Yankees failure to lock up Cano before the season gave away all leverage at the trading deadline. Instead of getting a package of Major League ready prospects plus god knows what else, the brains behind this organization is going to have to overpay for his services or accept a draft choice, which for a player of Cano's ability is a crime.

Last night on the White Sox broadcast which I was forced to watch due to MLB Ticket in Florida, I was privileged to listen to Hawk Harrelson and Stone talk about the problem with the minor leagues throughout baseball. That only a handful of teams had a system that is developing players not just one or two. The term player development came into play. And here is the Yankees problems. Inside player development are the scouts and the instructors (coaches) that lead to success at that level. He feels the scouts for the White Soxs have drafted good prospects, but he feels that the coaches (instructors) have failed. So my point, you can draft well and still crap out on development, or don't draft well and there is no talent. This my friends has been the major issue with the Yankees. Going forward with the existing front office and from top to bottom player development will result in no results. Today August 8, 2013. the Cashman led organization has brought us to the cliff of what is equivalent to bankruptcy. There will be no quick fix. Sure we could try for the wildcard spot next year and maybe get it with no injuries, but Jeter, Wells, Suzuki, Overbay, Tex, Arod (who cares), CC, Kuroda (if he came back) etc are only going to give you one more year. The majority on this board know that. It's the reality like Rick posted earlier, all those years of success lead to today. I just do not have any confidence in the Organization to correct it unless they throw money. It has covered up a multitude of sins before, and it will again if the Gene Pool allows it.
 
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Yblue said:
Totally disagree. Look what garza brought back. Look what Peavy brought back. The yanks should have dangled Kuroda instead of clinging to false hope.

And i hope they know what they are in for with Cano. If his demands get to high and the smartly let him walk, then its pretty clear they would have been better trading him as well.
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I totally agree, we have no leverage... That opportunity has passed.
 
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