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Pritchard's trade:
An all-star who turned Memphis into a playoff contender
+ Paul Allen had to pay $30 million

for
2 years of nothing from Channing Frye

Meanwhile, Aldridge has not developed.
 
LittleAlex said:
Being chosen to the all star game doesn't mean you are really any good.

For proof, please see Magloire, Jamal.
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What it means is that you are one of the very most popular players to the fans and coaches.
 
At best, Zach Randolph has consistently shown poor judgment in his choice of friends/hangers-on. Over and over.
 
crandc said:
At best, Zach Randolph has consistently shown poor judgment in his choice of friends/hangers-on. Over and over.
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It would be more accurate to say Zach is not a judgmental person. Some people are that way, accepting friends warts and all.

Their heart is that big.
 
MARIS61 said:
It would be more accurate to say Zach is not a judgmental person. Some people are that way, accepting friends warts and all.

Their heart is that big.
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Bullshit.

I've known false friends in my life and I've learned to appreciate true friends and overlook their faults, we all have them. I can forgive true friends for being tardy, messy, lazy, impractical, all the human foibles. But there is a big difference between having troubles and constantly being in trouble.

Friends don't injure their friends. If someone has a "friend" who is in trouble, over and over and over, damaging another person's career and reputation and causing legal problems, not once, but repeatedly, that is not a friend, that is a hanger-on, a leech (with apologies to leeches) and needs to be sent on.

Yeah, I've known that kind of person as well. After screwing you each way to Sunday, you say bye-bye and oh, they are such martyrs.
 
crandc said:
Bullshit.

I've known false friends in my life and I've learned to appreciate true friends and overlook their faults, we all have them. I can forgive true friends for being tardy, messy, lazy, impractical, all the human foibles. But there is a big difference between having troubles and constantly being in trouble.

Friends don't injure their friends. If someone has a "friend" who is in trouble, over and over and over, damaging another person's career and reputation and causing legal problems, not once, but repeatedly, that is not a friend, that is a hanger-on, a leech (with apologies to leeches) and needs to be sent on.

Yeah, I've known that kind of person as well. After screwing you each way to Sunday, you say bye-bye and oh, they are such martyrs.
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As I said, some people are big-hearted and non-judgmental.

Others may think their own shit doesn't stink.
 
crandc said:
At best, Zach Randolph has consistently shown poor judgment in his choice of friends/hangers-on. Over and over.
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When you are fighting a bad law, you may get into trouble with the law. That is a rebel's intentional life strategy, not poor judgement in choosing friends. Coming from the law and order political right, you haven't had to make such courageous decisions.
 
yeah, it's so tough and courageous to be a pot-smoking, narcissistic, vice addict. If you're having trouble with following the legal ways of enjoying yourself (drink, don't use illegal drugs), the legal ways of expressing yourself sexually (wanna go to a strip club? Fine, but pay your bill and don't go when you're supposed to be either working or going to a funeral--and don't just stand there as your buddy anal-rapes a girl in your room ALLEGEDLY), and the legal ways of making some money on the side (rent out storage to others, don't fund a drug-running business)--you're right, jlprk...he's a regular Rosa Parks mixed with Robin Hood.
You'd have a more convincing case if he'd ever publicly endorsed marijuana legality...or if he'd ever publicly proclaimed his strategy (like Melo's "Stop Snitching Campaign")...but he's hiding like a coward and acting like a criminal.
 
jlprk said:
When you are fighting a bad law, you may get into trouble with the law. That is a rebel's intentional life strategy, not poor judgement in choosing friends. Coming from the law and order political right, you haven't had to make such courageous decisions.
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And with respect, that's bullshit. Courage and integrity come from doing the right thing when no one's watching...not breaking the law and then saying "Oh, it's a bad law" when you get caught.
Also, it's curious to me that you lump law and order in with the political right. I was under the assumption that being law-abiding citizens was a prerequisite for anyone anywhere on the political spectrum.
 
You live under a lot of bad assumptions because your side silences the majority with threats of prison and torture. Too bad you weren't around in the late 60s to early 70s. Your eyes would have been opened to many ideas, beliefs, and ideologies.
 
jlprk said:
You live under a lot of bad assumptions because your side silences the majority with threats of prison and torture. Too bad you weren't around in the late 60s to early 70s. Your eyes would have been opened to many ideas, beliefs, and ideologies.
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Or, he could just be stuck in the '60s like you. :)
 
BGrantFan said:
Or, he could just be stuck in the '60s like you. :)
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Stealers Wheel said:
Well I don't know why I came to S2 tonight,
I got the feeling that something ain't right,
I'm laughing so hard that I fall off my chair,
And I'm wondering why I'm in Denny Crane's lair,
Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the sixties like you
Yes I'm stuck in the sixties like you,
Stuck in the sixties like you.
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barfo
 
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BrianFromWA said:
And with respect, that's bullshit. Courage and integrity come from doing the right thing when no one's watching...not breaking the law and then saying "Oh, it's a bad law" when you get caught.
Also, it's curious to me that you lump law and order in with the political right. I was under the assumption that being law-abiding citizens was a prerequisite for anyone anywhere on the political spectrum.
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If only the legal system and doing what's right always coincided.

But they many times don't.

I have always had the impression that folks on the right side of the political spectrum equate the two things while people on the left do not.

For example, at one time in the south it was perfectly legal for places of business to deny people service based on the color of their skin.
Folks on the right thought this was both the legal and right thing to do.
Folks on the left thought this was unjust and proceeded to get it changed by explicitly breaking this absurd law.

Some laws need to be broken in order to promote justice.
 
Two can play this game. People on the right generally equate our legal system and moral right because for the vast majority of cases, it's true in our society. When it hasn't been (Prohibition comes to mind), it's repealed. It's not b/c it's law...at least for me it's b/c there's a shared moral thought for the majority of the representative republic, and therefore the laws are made/upheld. But I'd venture to say that many on the right don't like the laws regarding abortion, and want them changed. They don't like Obamacare, and want it changed. In both of these cases, a majority of America thinks it's wrong. Those two examples, at least, show that the left doesn't have a monopoly on
And the laws regarding Civil Rights were changed, the way I read it, by people peacefully demonstrating. Unlike, say, the people rioting about this Arizona Immigration Law.
 
BrianFromWA said:
But I'd venture to say that many on the right don't like the laws regarding abortion, and want them changed. [...] In both of these cases, a majority of America thinks it's wrong.
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I'd like to see the evidence on that.

barfo
 
As an OBTW....the only dissenting vote in Plessy v. Ferguson was a conservative, Whig/Republican, former slaveholder.
 
Thinking it is morally wrong is rather different than wanting the laws changed.

barfo
 
Gotcha. thought you were talking about the "morally wrong" part. I'll look up the "many on the right want them changed" part.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Gotcha. thought you were talking about the "morally wrong" part. I'll look up the "many on the right want them changed" part.
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Oh, I don't doubt that many on the right want them changed. No need to prove that!

If you didn't mean to connect the "many on the right want the laws changed" with "a majority thinks it's wrong", then no problem.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Oh, I don't doubt that many on the right want them changed. No need to prove that!

If you didn't mean to connect the "many on the right want the laws changed" with "a majority thinks it's wrong", then no problem.

barfo
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It was more of a "both" than an "and". I submit that most Americans think that abortion's morally wrong. I submit that most conservatives agree, and want the law changed to make abortion illegal. It's to show that conservatives don't just go with the law of the land blindly, as I saw conjectured by LittleAlex in post 73
 
BrianFromWA said:
It was more of a "both" than an "and". I submit that most Americans think that abortion's morally wrong. I submit that most conservatives agree, and want the law changed to make abortion illegal. It's to show that conservatives don't just go with the law of the land blindly, as I saw conjectured by LittleAlex in post 73
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I see. I misunderstood your point.

But, the abortion law isn't really one you can break, so it's hard to tell if conservatives are going along with it blindly or not.

barfo
 
jlprk said:
When you are fighting a bad law, you may get into trouble with the law. That is a rebel's intentional life strategy, not poor judgement in choosing friends. Coming from the law and order political right, you haven't had to make such courageous decisions.
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I have been called many things in my life but part of the "law and order political right'?

Oi gvalt!
 
BrianFromWA said:
yeah, it's so tough and courageous to be a pot-smoking, narcissistic, vice addict. If you're having trouble with following the legal ways of enjoying yourself (drink, don't use illegal drugs)...
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So you think someone should use a proven addictive drug (alcohol) that damages every organ in your body rather than an innocuous one with many proven health benefits simply because Big Brother says one is legal (and run by organized crime) and one isn't and can be produced at home for free?

Sometimes you have to make hard decisions in life, and buck the system. Or pay the consequences of your sheepishness.
 
BrianFromWA said:
And the laws regarding Civil Rights were changed, the way I read it, by people peacefully demonstrating. Unlike, say, the people rioting about this Arizona Immigration Law.
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There was nothing peaceful about the Civil Rights Movement. The most incidents of citizen-on-citizen violence in America since the Civil War.
 
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