"Shared Sacrifice"? The Rich Get Richer?

[ABM]

Spare me.

http://socialistworker.org/2009/03/11/against-shared-sacrifice

 

[RayDavies]

This thread needs to be moved but... please tell me "spare me" is not the extent of your argument.

 

[ABM]

This thread needs to be moved but... please tell me "spare me" is not the extent of your argument.

You're right. I had meant to post this in OT Forum. Screwed up again.

But, please, somebody tell me...why does it appear that it's invariably the business owners, CEO's, and the like that have to be responsible for cleaning up - effectively, paying for - financial messes essentially created by the masses???

In other words, workers didn't see any benefit from the last boom, and now they are asking us to pay for the bust. The bankers, the CEOs and the politicians are the ones who have been living beyond their means. They should be the ones sacrificing to pay for the crisis they created, but that won't happen unless pressured from below. It's time workers and students organize that struggle, and fight for change we can believe in.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

You're right. I had meant to post this in OT Forum. Screwed up again.

But, please, somebody tell me...why does it appear that it's invariably the business owners, CEO's, and the like that have to be responsible for cleaning up - effectively, paying for - financial messes essentially created by the masses???

Because its those owners and CEOs job to provide goods and services for the masses, and they didn't do their job correctly. It's also their job to have a stable economic plan for their own company in order not to go bankrupt. And they didn't do that right either.

So, who's fault is it?

 

[Денг Гордон]

Why don't we try a capitalism/communism mix while we get out of this crisis?

 

[maxiep]

Must...resist...attacking...posters...for...their...idiocy.

 

[Денг Гордон]

Must...resist...attacking...posters...for...their...idiocy.

The EPIC plan was based on Sinclair's proposal that the state of California take over idle factories and farmland, which would then be run as cooperatives in the theme of production for use, instead of production for profit. The idea was to use these cooperatives to put the unemployed back to work. To run the cooperatives, Sinclair proposed the formation of an agency to be called the California Authority for Production. The proposal received widespread attention, and supporters formed EPIC clubs to promote it.

The communist part, the cooperatives, would just be for those who really need it to survive. The rest of the country would stay is on the capitalistic route. If these people can find employment, they can get out of the coop system.

 

[maxiep]

The communist part, the cooperatives, would just be for those who really need it to survive. The rest of the country would stay is on the capitalistic route. If these people can find employment, they can get out of the coop system.

Please re-read my previous post.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Isn't communist/capitalist kind of like if Stalin, Thatcher and Hillary had a three-way and sold the tape as a civics lesson?

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Must...resist...attacking...posters...for...their...idiocy.

No no it's okay, go right ahead.

 

[MARIS61]

Must...resist...attacking...posters...for...their...idiocy.

Don't do it maxiep!

Don't commit suicide!