So, According To CF, Deng "May" Be The Target, Eh?

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From: ESPN- Ford

Jake (Israel): Lovin the chats Chad. How seriously does the Darius Miles situation affect the Blazers? assuming he plays two more games.

SportsNation Chad Ford: Seriously, which is why the Blazers ended up making that desperate, pathetic threat over the weekend. The plan was to be a major player in the free agent market this summer. While the Blazers will still have room this summer, their better bet, now, is to use Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract (which is really a sweet deal since insurance picks up 80 percent of his salary) and some of his young talent to try to get another big piece or two. Ideally they'd to get a franchise point guard and they need a small forward. There's been interest in Mike Conley and I know they love Luol Deng. All in all, expect the Blazers to be very proactive at the trade deadline. It's the best chance of landing another impact player.
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I'm still pretty high on Deng. Hopefully the Bulls give up on him too soon, right? :) It should be interesting to see what the Blazers do...

Ed O.
 
I love his game. He would be a great fit on this squad.
 
Ed O said:
I'm still pretty high on Deng. Hopefully the Bulls give up on him too soon, right? :) It should be interesting to see what the Blazers do...

Ed O.
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MikeDC had that trade proposal of Hinrich, Gooden, and Deng for a package that included Bayless and a few others. I think I would do it. I think getting Hinrich and Deng would be a nice upgrade at our two weakest positions.
 
I can't stand Gooden or his game though!
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
I can't stand Gooden or his game though!
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The dude can score. You saw him overpower LA on the blocks last night, right? And hit jumpers over Oden?

As a backup power forward, he could be pretty darn effective.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
The dude can score. You saw him overpower LA on the blocks last night, right? And hit jumpers over Oden?

As a backup power forward, he could be pretty darn effective.

Ed O.
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Exactly. I just wonder if he would mind coming off the bench.
 
Deng is okay but he doesn't have range and isn't the defender that Gerald Wallace is. Maybe it's a pipedream to get a better SF, but look at how much a guy like Richard Jefferson was let go for. We can get a good SF. It's the most talent rich position in the league right now.
 
BalancedMan said:
Deng is okay but he doesn't have range and isn't the defender that Gerald Wallace is. Maybe it's a pipedream to get a better SF, but look at how much a guy like Richard Jefferson was let go for. We can get a good SF. It's the most talent rich position in the league right now.
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Yeah, but he could be had cheaply. That's the thing. Wallace would probably cost more.
 
Due to Deng's regression the past couple of seasons, Gerald Wallace is of more interest to me. But if Wallace is not a possibility, for whatever reason, and Deng is, I'd be very interested in Deng. I think his projection is significantly worse considering last season and this one but if Portland could acquire him at a pretty reduced cost, I'd love to take a flyer on him. He has a good defensive reputation, he's still young and he has shown very good scoring skills in the past.

Deng interests me a few hundred times more than Conley Jr. But only if the trade cost is right. I'm not sure I'd still give up Bayless for him. Prior to this season (and definitely prior to last) I would have, and more. But for, say, LaFrentz and Outlaw, I would do it.
 
Someone remind me of the last time Chad Ford broke a trade or signing.

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Exactly.

As for Luol Deng - someone tell me why I should get remotely excited about the possibility of him on the team? Pretty pedestrian career stats. Horrible three-point shooter. Doesn't improve our perimeter defense.

I'd much rather have a guy like Shane Battier - who doesn't get nearly the same hype as Deng - but who can be a lockdown defender on the perimeter, hustles like crazy, and can be that guy in the corner who spreads the floor and can hit the three.

Not to mention he comes with a cheaper price tag than Deng and fewer years (Battier becomes a free agent in 2011 and Deng is on the books until 2014).

Anything Chad Ford heard about Deng came from the Chicago side - I can almost guarantee you of that. Deng makes absolutely no sense here. None.

-Pop
 
this would be great, not sure if chicago goes for it, but it saves them gobs of money, lets them rebuild right away, and gives them a prospect in bayless.

i think they consider it as a means to shed nocioni and hinrich, eh?

hinrich/sergio
roy/rudy
deng/martell/batum
lma/outlaw/nocioni
oden/pryz

we would be over the cap for a decade, but those contracts would turn into expirings eventually as well.
 
Ed O said:
The dude can score. You saw him overpower LA on the blocks last night, right? And hit jumpers over Oden?

As a backup power forward, he could be pretty darn effective.

Ed O.
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He just so happen to have a good half against us. I've also watched about 8 or 9 Bulls games where he was out on the court just LOST! Don't like him!
 
"and I know they love Luol Deng"


sounds like he's just talking about old news. everyone knows we asked about
deng last year

i think if we still wanted deng now we'd have him already. the bulls presumably
regret giving him 70 million to get owned by outlaw.
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
He just so happen to have a good half against us. I've also watched about 8 or 9 Bulls games where he was out on the court just LOST! Don't like him!
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Have Frye or Ike had a stretch like that this entire year?

I'm not saying that we trade in order to get Gooden, but if he comes here, he'd be a clear upgrade at the backup power forward.

Ed O.
 
There are quite a few Bulls players that would probably be much better with a change of scenery. They have too many players playing the same positions. Nobody is happy. There is almost a "dark cloud" over the team.

I am concerned about Deng's decline though. A couple of years ago he was tearing it up, now he often looks like he doesn't even want to be out there.
 
hasoos said:
There are quite a few Bulls players that would probably be much better with a change of scenery. They have too many players playing the same positions. Nobody is happy. There is almost a "dark cloud" over the team.

I am concerned about Deng's decline though. A couple of years ago he was tearing it up, now he often looks like he doesn't even want to be out there.
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It would really depend on what we had to give up Has. As long as the price wasn't too high, adding Hinrich and Deng would be really nice upgrades over what we currently have at those positions.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It would really depend on what we had to give up Has. As long as the price wasn't too high, adding Hinrich and Deng would be really nice upgrades over what we currently have at those positions.
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i don't think trading for deng without giving up anything huge would be a problem right now if we wanted to do it.

the trouble is deng is apparently declining and is locked in to a near max deal for 5 1/2 more years. trading for him and hoping he improves with a change of scenery would be a massive, possibly even championship risking gamble. it's not even a given that he's an upgrade over outlaw at this point.
 
crowTrobot said:
i don't think trading for deng without giving up anything huge would be a problem right now if we wanted to do it.

the trouble is deng is apparently declining and is locked in to a near max deal for 5 1/2 more years. trading for him and hoping he improves with a change of scenery would be a massive, possibly even championship risking gamble.
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How does a guy his age decline? I don't understand.
 
It is amazing (as I believe somebody said in the "multiplicity" thread [which I thought was some kind of cloning reference because of that obscure Michael Keaton film]) how a few years ago the Bulls were seen as the Blazers are now, as a team bursting at the seams with young talent. Now it's basically just Rose and a bunch of scrubs.

I would sort of be interested in Deng because:
(a) he's got a British passport
(b) he's a great guy
(c) he's a good shooter
(d) a few years ago he looked like an all-star against Miami in the playoffs.
(e) [Ed. O. rationale:] despite the fact that he seems to have been around forever, he's actually almost a year YOUNGER than Roy

My qualms are as follows:
(a) he's had injury problems that may be chronic
(b) he seems to have regressed
(c) he looked his best under Scott Skiles, who is currently proving that he can make almost any collection of scrubs look good, at least at first
(d) he's got a ridiculously huge contract
(e) he would probably cost us Outlaw, who I think is a really important part of team chemistry (and a great scorer off the bench)

I would certainly do it if Chicago just wanted to rid themselves of his contract and only wanted something like Raef and possibly Webster in return.

Do we want Hinrich as well? Well, I know he was fresh off the injured list, but Blake pretty comprehensively outplayed him last night. If I knew Hinrich was really good at the pick and roll that would certainly sway me, but Blake was actually more of PG in college than Hinrich was...

If the trade was THIS (Hinrich, Deng, Noah for Raef, Blake, Diogu) I wouldn't say no. Provided we then did another trade to consolidate.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
It is amazing (as I believe somebody said in the "multiplicity" thread [which I thought was some kind of cloning reference because of that obscure Michael Keaton film]) how a few years ago the Bulls were seen as the Blazers are now, as a team bursting at the seams with young talent. Now it's basically just Rose and a bunch of scrubs.
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That's what scares me though. I think we need to make that consolidation trade sooner rather than later. Ben Gordon or Hinrich would have had twice the value a few years ago. Now there's talk of them going at rock bottom prices. I'd rather turn some of our pieces into players who will help us in the long haul.
 
Natebishop3 said:
How does a guy his age decline? I don't understand.
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For your sake I hope you never truly understand, but back + knee injuries will slow down most anyone.

I used to really want Deng, but now it seems he's damaged goods with a huge price tag. His athleticism definitely took a serious hit... no thanks

STOMP
 
Fact: Deng is a better man-to-man, half court defender than Wallace.
 
For his production, of lack their of, he's not worth it. Especially with his contract.
 
STOMP said:
For your sake I hope you never truly understand, but back + knee injuries will slow down most anyone.

I used to really want Deng, but now it seems he's damaged goods with a huge price tag. His athleticism definitely took a serious hit... no thanks

STOMP
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I guess I just hadn't really followed his injury history. If he's that banged up, it would all make sense.
 
Corey Maggette is a freaking bargain compared the contract that Deng got. I'd rather make a move for Maggette, Josh Howard or Gerald Wallace if we are looking to target a SF with Raef's contract.
 
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