So glad we chose to extend Leonard and not TRob....

[Natebishop3]

 

[magnifier661]

It still makes me wonder what we were thinking? I thought he had some large cap hold, but it was literally 5 mil or something.

I sure hope this doesn't bite us in the ass

 

[Natebishop3]

It still makes me wonder what we were thinking? I thought he had some large cap hold, but it was literally 5 mil or something.

I sure hope this doesn't bite us in the ass

Leonard is so annoyingly bad.

 

[magnifier661]

Leonard is so annoyingly bad.

Tell me about it. I think Olshey made a mistake because Leonard was his pick. He wants so much for it to pan out. That mistake may lose the better player

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Liked his responses after the game to Holton. Almost seems like he is starting to understand that he has bring it or there might not be much of a future.

It is interesting, the player they put their confidence is not gettin the time and this kat is. Don't pull him out now. Let him continue to put it together. If it 'bites us in the ass'. Well, I guess it just 'bites us in the ass'.

 

[Rhal]

Leonard shows flashes of great offensive potential, thats hard to find in a big man especially if he can actually consistently knock down the three. Physical tools are all there he just doesn't have it all there mentally. Defensively... oh man we could put any poster out on the floor and they would box out better then Leonard, would probably rotate better as well. Its hard to give up on Big men after two years especially when the option is only 3m.
Robinson is a hustle guy and as fun as he is to watch they aren't that hard to find in the NBA. We could probably resign Robinson for lower this is actual caphit would be.

 

[magnifier661]

Leonard shows flashes of great offensive potential, thats hard to find in a big man especially if he can actually consistently knock down the three. Physical tools are all there he just doesn't have it all there mentally. Defensively... oh man we could put any poster out on the floor and they would box out better then Leonard, would probably rotate better as well. Its hard to give up on Big men after two years especially when the option is only 3m.
Robinson is a hustle guy and as fun as he is to watch they aren't that hard to find in the NBA. We could probably resign Robinson for lower this is actual caphit would be.

No way we can sign him for that bro. His cap hit is like 4.3 I think the last time I checked. He will easily get more than that. We can't even match an offer of 4.8 mil. Shit Hickson even got more than that and I think T.Rob is a better player.

As for Leonard... We could have easily retained all of them. I still don't understand why we had to choose not to pick up all of them.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

He loves 'us'. So maybe he brings a forgiving spirit into fa.

 

[magnifier661]

He loves 'us'. So maybe he brings a forgiving spirit into fa.

That's the thing I hope for. I just hope he stays loyal to this ball club and takes less

 

[Natebishop3]

No way we can sign him for that bro. His cap hit is like 4.3 I think the last time I checked. He will easily get more than that. We can't even match an offer of 4.8 mil. Shit Hickson even got more than that and I think T.Rob is a better player.

As for Leonard... We could have easily retained all of them. I still don't understand why we had to choose not to pick up all of them.

Well, it's pretty clear that NO has some kind of scheme for this summer. Nobody knows what it is exactly, but he's built it all up to this point where most of the team is FA. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Rhal]

No way we can sign him for that bro. His cap hit is like 4.3 I think the last time I checked. He will easily get more than that. We can't even match an offer of 4.8 mil. Shit Hickson even got more than that and I think T.Rob is a better player.

As for Leonard... We could have easily retained all of them. I still don't understand why we had to choose not to pick up all of them.

Why would we match an offer he won't be a restricted FA we would just offer him a contract. Hickson got a 3y 15m contract but reports had very few teams actually interested in him. Robinson option was 4.8m Turning down his option could have been Blazers play to see if that would really motivate him, you see that happen in football all the time the Lions did it with Fairley this year. Seems like Olshey wants maximum capspace this summer because it will be the only summer for a long time we will have capspace.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

This is about showcasing.

 

[magnifier661]

Why would we match an offer he won't be a restricted FA we would just offer him a contract. Hickson got a 3y 15m contract but reports had very few teams actually interested in him. Robinson option was 4.8m Turning down his option could have been Blazers play to see if that would really motivate him, you see that happen in football all the time the Lions did it with Fairley this year. Seems like Olshey wants maximum capspace this summer because it will be the only summer for a long time we will have capspace.

Only way to have major cap space would be renouncing our free agents. They have cap holds worth more than their current salary. It's not like we can sign other players first, then sign our free agents.

We would have a little more than 6.8 mil space if we keep rolo, Aldridge and Matthews while renouncing everyone else.

 

[LameR]

This is about showcasing.

Or keeping the rotation as similar as possible for continuity sake (see previous uses of Crabbe and even Wright).

 

[Rhal]

Only way to have major cap space would be renouncing our free agents. They have cap holds worth more than their current salary. It's not like we can sign other players first, then sign our free agents.

We would have a little more than 6.8 mil space if we keep rolo, Aldridge and Matthews while renouncing everyone else.

Forgot thats how FA works. If we lose Rolo/Wes in FA does that give us enough for a max FA?

 

[magnifier661]

Forgot thats how FA works. If we lose Rolo/Wes in FA does that give us enough for a max FA?

I think so.

 

[Natebishop3]

Forgot thats how FA works. If we lose Rolo/Wes in FA does that give us enough for a max FA?

I believe so. The beauty is though, you can offer a deal and then renounce if the guy accepts.

 

[magnifier661]

I believe so. The beauty is though, you can offer a deal and then renounce if the guy accepts.

But if you renounce you lose the option to resign with bird rights? If that's the case, I don't know how much I would like losing Rolo and Matthews to get a max player, even if it's someone like Gasol.

 

[Rhal]

I believe so. The beauty is though, you can offer a deal and then renounce if the guy accepts.

except for RFA but I believe we get the rights to the players we renounce back if the team matches.

 

[Natebishop3]

But if you renounce you lose the option to resign with bird rights? If that's the case, I don't know how much I would like losing Rolo and Matthews to get a max player, even if it's someone like Gasol.

I would trade Wes and Rolo for Gasol in a heartbeat. No question. If he accepted the offer, I would pull that trigger.

Dame
Crabbe
Batum
LA
Gasol

That's one of the best big three in the league.

 

[Rhal]

I would trade Wes and Rolo for Gasol in a heartbeat. No question. If he accepted the offer, I would pull that trigger.

Dame
Crabbe
Batum
LA
Gasol

That's one of the best big three in the league.

Took me a second to realize you ment Marc Gasol. Yea you take that deal and RUN.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I have been preaching this since day 1. T-Rob seems like a poor mans Dennis Rodman, without the crazy. Opting to let him walk over the Great White Dope is infuriating

 

[Mediocre Man]

T-Rob had the same number or rebounds last night than Leonar_'s total defensive rebounds for the season.

 

[kjironman1]

T-Rob had the same number or rebounds last night than Leonar_'s total defensive rebounds for the season.

You did see the free throw line right? One player dropped the average from 80% to 50%. It wasn't Leonard.
Against a better team in crunch time you simply can't play this guy. Basketball is more than just athletic ability. It take intelligence also. T-Rob does not have much in the way of BBIQ....

 

[magnifier661]

You did see the free throw line right? One player dropped the average from 80% to 50%. It wasn't Leonard.
Against a better team in crunch time you simply can't play this guy. Basketball is more than just athletic ability. It take intelligence also. T-Rob does not have much in the way of BBIQ....

Please don't tell me you think Leonard has BBall IQ?

 

[Eastoff]

T rob won't be on this team at the end of the season. Mark my words.

 

[BBert]

I don't believe the decision on TRob had anything whatsoever to do with Leonard, and vise-versa, or with choosing Leonard over TRob, or that the Blazers have done that. I'm confident there are other strategies at play here. I think it was all about the cap hold and giving TRob the tough love treatment to try to get him to follow direction and stop trying to play like a small forward.

 

[H.C.]

You did see the free throw line right? One player dropped the average from 80% to 50%. It wasn't Leonard.
Against a better team in crunch time you simply can't play this guy. Basketball is more than just athletic ability. It take intelligence also. T-Rob does not have much in the way of BBIQ....

If you're saying basketball IQ refers to being able to hit free throws.. That's pretty silly..
Shaq/Ben Wallace to name two players of many where shitty free throw shooters and weren't terrible in the basketball IQ area.
Not comparing those two players to t-rob. Just merely the free throw shooting, and how you said that it takes basketball IQ to hit free throws.

 

[Reep]

I don't believe the decision on TRob had anything whatsoever to do with Leonard, and vise-versa, or with choosing Leonard over TRob, or that the Blazers have done that. I'm confident there are other strategies at play here. I think it was all about the cap hold and giving TRob the tough love treatment to try to get him to follow direction and stop trying to play like a small forward.

This. To pretend it had anything to do with their talent level right now is misguided.

 

[riverman]

Sometimes guys really step up when they are playing for a contract. JJ did the same thing.