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So what the fuck? The bad guy wins and everybody dies? Or almost everybody. Why did Tony and Rocket live? Why weren't Hawkeye or Ant Man in the movie? Is there going to be a part 2? Have they already begun production? Are they just going to go back in time and do it all over again? I'm not complaining though. It's good that there are repercussions in a fantastical world. If no one can die, the action is all meaningless.
 
Next May there’s another one coming out. Definitely didn’t expect that ending going into it.
 
Ant Man has a movie coming out next year before part 2. They will probably incorporate people dusting at the end of that movie, probably including Ant Man and the Wasp unless they do something with alternate dimensions to fix whatever happened or to find Thanos.

Hawkeye is rumored to turn into a character called Ronin after his family dies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronin_(Marvel_Comics)

If you look, you'll notice pretty much the original Avengers survived the culling.

My theory is that at the end of Avengers 4, they will eventually defeat Thanos and get the Infinity Gauntlet, however the Soul Stone will ask for those Avenger's lives in exchange for everyone who died in Infinity War (only those that turned to dust) as a trade off much like how Thanos killed Gamora to obtain the Soul Stone. The black genius girl from Wakanda will be the new "IronMan", Bucky will be the new Captain America, Hulk...who knows. Don't see any future Thor movies and Black Widow movie will probably be a prequel movie.
 
Part 2 has been filmed already or is in post-production I believe. Set leaks have characters utilizing sets and costumes from previous Avengers movies, so there is speculations that somehow the team goes back in time or perhaps an alternate dimension.
 
So what the fuck? The bad guy wins and everybody dies? Or almost everybody. Why did Tony and Rocket live? Why weren't Hawkeye or Ant Man in the movie? Is there going to be a part 2? Have they already begun production? Are they just going to go back in time and do it all over again? I'm not complaining though. It's good that there are repercussions in a fantastical world. If no one can die, the action is all meaningless.

Everbody isn't dead...not really. Dr. Strange is up to his tricks again. I think its something like he created an alternate reality for Thanos where Thanos could think he won and wiped out Earth, while really he didn't, or its going to be like the Dr. Strange movies where time can be reversed or something along those lines. Hell maybe everybody is hanging iut safely at the sanctum...probably not. Looks like the ending is a plot device to bring the original avengers back together for the next one.

Captain Marvel will help somehow
 
Thanos had to get all the stones and fully power his gaunlet. You knew it was happening.
 
of the 14 million six hundred and five future scenarios, only one "won". Strange saw it.
Now, my question during the movie was "once he said 'one', how come you didn't say 'sweet. So you're saying there's a chance. What do we have to do?'" They were just like, "hm. yup."
He said to Stark when he gave up the stone "It was the only way." And he'd shown previously that he'd put magic on the stone to do other things (like stay with him, burn whoever tried to take it, etc), so I think Strange set up a way to make it happen.

I've also heard the Ronin rumors--one site said that there was a set picture of Jeremy Renner with a tat'ted-up arm with skulls and death and stuff on it, as if his family had been killed.

To ease your mind, we know there's going to be a Black Panther II and T'Challa "died", so he's gotta come back somehow. I hadn't heard that soul-exchange that El Pres talked about, but it makes a ton of sense and I wish I'd have thought about it. To be fair, I only saw it last night.

I don't know comic books at all and didn't know the difference b/w Captain America and Captain Marvel until reading about the ending trailer.

Thor as a god with the battle-axe from hell seems pretty legit, though. I knew I should've seen Ragnorak before watching this one.

(BTW, I wasn't a fan of how pouty and bratty StarLord was in this one. I love it in GotG, but it seems as if they went overboard.)
 
BTW, anyone else feel like if Thor would've chopped off Thanos' hand and taken the gauntlet, it would've been as if Gandalf had taken the One Ring for his own? Except that Gandalf is basically an angel in his mythology, while Thor is a favored deity in his and should be even more powerful.
 
Marvel is doing it right. Thanos is for real not some wussy pretender like steppenwolf...D.C. needs to take notes
 
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Marvel is doing it right. Thanis is for real not some wussy pretender like steppenwolf...D.C. needs to take notes
He's a poor man's Bane, imo. Yes, Steppenwolf was wack and Thanos is better but I'd like to see some more humanity and struggle out of Thanos. Film was overrated. I prefer Black Panther by far or Logan or Deadpool. Excited for Venom. Man of Steele > all these.
 
He's a poor man's Bane, imo. Yes, Steppenwolf was wack and Thanos is better but I'd like to see some more humanity and struggle out of Thanos. Film was overrated. I prefer Black Panther by far or Logan or Deadpool. Excited for Venom. Man of Steele > all these.

Thanos threw his daughter to her death for power, he killed whoever he had to in order to get the stones, and wiped out half of the universe once he did. Someone like that, somebody capable of that, has no humanity.
 
I wonder if it is going to be something like a, 'the only way forward is back thing' where they have to go backwards in time and destroy the stones long before Thanos comes for them. That seems like it'd be kinda weak though.
 
I wonder if it is going to be something like a, 'the only way forward is back thing' where they have to go backwards in time and destroy the stones long before Thanos comes for them. That seems like it'd be kinda weak though.

It seems likely but it's the same thing the show Heroes did and people got tired of it. They were making up the rules as they went along which is what this seems like it's going to be. The deaths don't carry much weight to me even though I like the characters. I didn't feel a thing about it afterwards at the end.
 
Thanos threw his daughter to her death for power, he killed whoever he had to in order to get the stones, and wiped out half of the universe once he did. Someone like that, somebody capable of that, has no humanity.

He did cry so it showed some level of humanity in him. I would have liked to have seen more of his struggle with this decision. It's why The Dark Knight stuff is so compelling and Man of Steele.
 
I wonder if it is going to be something like a, 'the only way forward is back thing' where they have to go backwards in time and destroy the stones long before Thanos comes for them. That seems like it'd be kinda weak though.
If you dont mind some comic book research, look up infinity watch and marvel illuminati. Those stories deal with what happens with them later in the comics, however be careful as it can be spoiler for future MCU story lines if the studio (Disney/Marvel) decides to go that route.
 
Marvel is doing it right. Thanis is for real not some wussy pretender like steppenwolf...D.C. needs to take notes

I loved at the end of the movie. I always wondered "what if the bad guy wins, what would he do". And I saw, him just chillin and staring out on that beautiful planet.
 
How did you not know that there were two parts!? Soon Adam Warlock and Captain Marvel will officially be revealed. We’ve already heard of them both in the end credit scenes fromGotG II.


And now captain Marvel has been teased in the infinity war end credits.
 
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After watching Infinity Wars a second time, I wanted to come back and share some thoughts.

So what the fuck? The bad guy wins and everybody dies? Or almost everybody. Why did Tony and Rocket live? Why weren't Hawkeye or Ant Man in the movie? Is there going to be a part 2? Have they already begun production? Are they just going to go back in time and do it all over again? I'm not complaining though. It's good that there are repercussions in a fantastical world. If no one can die, the action is all meaningless.

Yes, the bad guy wins. Thanos had to get all the stones and become somewhat invincible. It had to happen. Yes, half the heroes vanished, seemingly turning back to the dirt from which they came. After first seeing the movie, my first thought was, 'Damn they Batman VS Supermaned us,' seemingly killing off half of Marvels heroes. But like Superman in the DC verse we know that these heroes won't be gone long. Most of them have movies coming up so we will see their return. The question is, how? We know Marvel has already filmed the sequel which will be out next May. Though, its not "part 2" as they originally had it titled. It will be its own standalone movie. (Maybe the studio is trying to cash in on a two parter without calling it such, or maybe the directors, brothers Anthony and Joe Russo, have changed it for artistic reasons)

Its title has not yet been released, but I am hearing, Avengers: Endgame and Avengers: Guantlet out in the rumor mills.

Why did Tony and Rocket not die? Because when Thanos snapped his fingers and took out half the universe, it was randomized, as to be fair. Rocket got lucky. Tony on the other hand was interesting. He was spared by Thanos at the behest of Dr. Strange, who offered the tine stone in exchange for Stark's life. Which is very interesting as a few scenes before after Ebony Maw was introduced to space, Strange told Stark that he would protect the stone over saving lifes. Yet, after looking into the future at millions of outcomes, to find they defeat Thanos in only one, he changes suit and offers the stone. Only Strange knew the future, and he saved Stark, which tells me Stark will be very important in some manner. I'll come back to this in a minute.

I want to point out that nearly every stone was given to save a life. Loki gave the space stone to save Thor, Strange gave the time stone to save Stark. Gammorah showed Thanos the location of the soul stone in turn for Nebula's life being spared. (Vision sacrificed himself to destroy the mind stone. Thanos got the reality stone from the collector, and already had the power stone.) Then we had this, we don't trade lives dialogue throughout. I don't know if that will resurface or hold importance in the next film, or be part of what saves the Avengers, that they are linked to those stones, but we shall see.

Now how will the Avengers (looks like its the original avengers that are left and who will team up once more since dividing after the events of age of ultron. ) defeat Thanos who seems to be invincble and undo what he has done. It seems getting the glove from him as they attempted to do in the film and snapping their finger would do the trick but thats to easy. And, while I agree with @KingSpeed that if no one dies than the action seems meaningless. I do think, however, the Avengers will find a way to go back in time to avert the future.

Set leaks have characters utilizing sets and costumes from previous Avengers movies, so there is speculations that somehow the team goes back in time or perhaps an alternate dimension.

I too have seen these pics of the avengers in their old gear. Looks like the fight in the first one when Loki led Thanos's force to get the stones and failed. I think Antman will go back in time by going into the quantum realm. I think Stark will update Antman's suit with the neccessary technology allowing him to succeed, Thus why Strange saved Stark.
Antman will tell the Avengers about the future and help them stop Thanos from getting the stones in the first place ("It was the only way.") Maybe they will destroy the stones or else lure Thanos without all the stones yet to Earth to defeat him. I don't see the whole team traveling back, as that might destroy the time space continum...or maybe some law in the marvel verse will allow it and their will be two each of them confusing the hell out of Thanos. Doubtful, very doubtful but hey. Whatever happens, Dr. Strange died with half the universe, inconveniently taking the only knowledge of how to beat Thanos with him. So, the Avengers are flying blind, and will have to figure it out.

In the comic book Nebula sneaks up on a resting Thanos and steals the gauntlet, and Thanos has to join the Avengers to stop her with the help of Adam Warlock, who takes control of the gauntlet and rights things before spreading stones out once again so that no one can wield their full power again. We are told though by the directors that they are not going directly off the books and are taking liberties with the story. Also Warlock will not be appearing till the next Gardians of the Galaxy, so he won't be around to help.

Captain Marvel however, is on the way. We saw Nick Furry sending a distress call to her in the end credits. I am curious to how she will help. I don't completely understand the full breath of her powers. I have heard though that she may be in possesion of the fabled 7th stone, the ego gem/stone which is said to be as powerful or even more than all the others combined. It will be interesting to see how she helps. Oh, and that 7th stone, if it connects with the other 6 it will form the omnipotent being Nemisis who will give the Avengers even worse trouble, if thats possible than Thanos has. Could this happen at the end of the next movie? They defeat Thanos only for all 7 stones to unite and create Nemisis for the next film in the series, Avengers:Nemisis?

@AmirIcon on this second watch I paid closer attention to Thanos. Though he seemed to have some humanity, i.e. he cried when he sacrificed Gammorah, and distracted Gammorah to stop her from seeing all her people murdered when she was a kid. There should have been more, I agree. I think maybe they are saving it for a possible redemption in the next film perhaps. His whole I am going to save the universe by killing half of everybody cause no one else can shoulder that burden but me spiel wasn't convincing. I understood his ideal, but he needed more conviction.

Thanos will return.
 
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My personal theory is that Captain America gets the Gauntlet at some point. He is probably greatly aided by Captain Marvel in some fashion, but you can't build up 10+ years to have one new introduction to the team be the one to save the entire day. And to reverse the snap, he has to sacrifice himself. Bucky then becomes the new Captain America.

Iron Man marries Pepper and retires for good.

Shuri becomes the new IronMan. Probably in the Post-Credits scene they hint at it.
 
So what the fuck? The bad guy wins and everybody dies? Or almost everybody. Why did Tony and Rocket live? Why weren't Hawkeye or Ant Man in the movie? Is there going to be a part 2? Have they already begun production? Are they just going to go back in time and do it all over again? I'm not complaining though. It's good that there are repercussions in a fantastical world. If no one can die, the action is all meaningless.

First, there's going to be an "Infinity War II". You know the entertainment business well enough to know the Marvel actors all signed contracts. Just see when their contracts with Marvel end, and you can guess when they will die. Cough--Captain America--Cough.

Second, in the dialogue, you'll notice Dr. Strange ran something like 14.4MM alternate scenarios (with his control of the time stone) and discovered only one scenario where Thanos wouldn't win. Why do you think he gave up the stone so easily?

Third, note the absences in this movie (Ant Man for one) and you'll know who the remaining Avengers look to for help (I bet every single superhero not seen in Part 1 will be one of the half that lived after Thanos snapped his fingers).

Fourth, in the spoiler, the pager signal was sent to Captain Marvel (that was her insignia). She will likely be a main character in Part II after she's introduced in her own movie.

Fifth, the plot for Part II is clear. The remaining Avengers will get together to capture the Infinity Gauntlet so they can return the universe back to the status quo.
 
Ant Man has a movie coming out next year before part 2. They will probably incorporate people dusting at the end of that movie, probably including Ant Man and the Wasp unless they do something with alternate dimensions to fix whatever happened or to find Thanos.

Hawkeye is rumored to turn into a character called Ronin after his family dies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronin_(Marvel_Comics)

If you look, you'll notice pretty much the original Avengers survived the culling.

My theory is that at the end of Avengers 4, they will eventually defeat Thanos and get the Infinity Gauntlet, however the Soul Stone will ask for those Avenger's lives in exchange for everyone who died in Infinity War (only those that turned to dust) as a trade off much like how Thanos killed Gamora to obtain the Soul Stone. The black genius girl from Wakanda will be the new "IronMan", Bucky will be the new Captain America, Hulk...who knows. Don't see any future Thor movies and Black Widow movie will probably be a prequel movie.


I too think the ending of part one was backwards. Everyone who "died" will end up being saved likely from the soul stone as you mentioned. All or most of the heroes who lived will have to sacrifice themselves. It's really the only way to explain the future movie lineup. Most of those who lived have contracts ending and no longer wish to play the role.
 
So what the fuck? The bad guy wins and everybody dies? Or almost everybody. Why did Tony and Rocket live? Why weren't Hawkeye or Ant Man in the movie? Is there going to be a part 2? Have they already begun production? Are they just going to go back in time and do it all over again? I'm not complaining though. It's good that there are repercussions in a fantastical world. If no one can die, the action is all meaningless.

Have you read the comic? Gamora doesn't die and all the others are trapped in the soul stone.

Please don't tell me you thought for one second that America would kill off Spiderman. Not happening.
 
Have you read the comic? Gamora doesn't die and all the others are trapped in the soul stone.

Please don't tell me you thought for one second that America would kill off Spiderman. Not happening.

On the flip side, do you think they're going to kill off Black Panther after the huge success that movie had? Not a chance in hell.

Plus, this is the first damn Spiderman that hasn't sucked ass. I hope they don't kill him off.
 
I really didn't like Spiderman Homecoming tbh. I like the actor's portrayal though.

Haven't seen Black Panther yet but its in my queue.
 
I really didn't like Spiderman Homecoming tbh. I like the actor's portrayal though.

Haven't seen Black Panther yet but its in my queue.

I really liked Black Panther. I didn’t care for Michael B Jordan though. I think that guy is extremely overrated. Dating back to the Wire. He’s just not that good. Chadwick Boseman is legit though.
 
Ant Man and Wasp I'll prob wait for it to hit streaming. Same with Captain Marvel, probably more interested in the post credit scenes than actually bothering to see in theatres.
 

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