Start Bayless and use Diener as backup PG please

[KingSpeed]

Bayless is much better than Rudy. I want him starting at SG. We may need Diener in the playoffs if Roy can't play. Get him some run now.

 

[ucatchtrout]

Are you on crack? Bayless is no where near the player Rudy is.

 

[KingSpeed]

Are you on crack? Bayless is no where near the player Rudy is.

What the fuck? Are you serious? Rudy has averaged 6 more minutes per game than Bayless and Bayless has still averaged more points than Rudy. When has Rudy ever stepped up as a starter? When has Rudy proven to be any more than a spot up three point shooter? Remember when Bayless started vs San Antonio and had 31 pts and 7 assists? When has Rudy done that? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

 

[ucatchtrout]

You are on crack. Better give Dr. Drew a call.

 

[KingSpeed]

You are on crack. Better give Dr. Drew a call.

You've made no argument in favor of Rudy. Learn the game, then post.

 

[ucatchtrout]

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[MARIS61]

Bayless is still looking like he should have stayed in college, and gets beat by his man more often than not.

He's got sporadic bench relief written all over him.

Rudy is a thoroughly seasoned vet who's played in bigger games than anyone else on the team, and is better than Jerryd at every single phase of the game.

If Rudy doesn't start, Webster will.

 

[KingSpeed]

Rudy is a thoroughly seasoned vet who's played in bigger games than anyone else on the team, and is better than Jerryd at every single phase of the game.

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Bayless scores more points in less minutes. Bayless gets more assists in less minutes. Bayless shoots more free throws in less minutes.

As for big games, Rudy was put in the starting lineup during in Game 6 vs Rockets last season. It was the biggest game of his NBA career. He scored 2 points on 1 of 7 shooting in 41 minutes. Bayless scored 2 points in that game in 3 minutes.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200904300HOU.html

Sorry, the facts don't support your argument at all.

 

[Blazed Mania 52]

You've made no argument in favor of Rudy. Learn the game, then post.

I usually post and then masturbate, does that count?

 

[B-Roy]

You are on crack. Better give Dr. Drew a call.

At least KS is giving somewhat of an attempt to back his opinion. What are you doing?

 

[ironcrotch]

Pendergraph should be in the dunk contest, amirite

he caught 3 alley oops today, best dunker in the league

 

[craigehlo]

I think we've seen as much Diener as we'll ever see in a Blazer uni.

 

[DUB]

Diener is ahead of Mills in the rotation, so you'd think he'd get the minutes if Miller or Bayless get injured.

I think Mills is showing tonight that he should be ahead of Diener.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm going to throw a curve ball here. I want Martell to start at 2 guard over both Rudy or Bayless and that's because he can guard 2s and 3s and is no more or less likely to hit a three than either Bayless or Rudy.

 

[ucatchtrout]

At least KS is giving somewhat of an attempt to back his opinion. What are you doing?

The point KS is trying to make is to ridiculous to argue. And his use of stats to promote his idea is equally ridiculous. All he is going to do anyway is to continue to whine about Bayless no matter what anyone says.

Stats can be used to argue that Travis Diener is better than Jerryd Bayless. But he isn't.

What if the Trail Blazers had an opportunity, this late in the season, to add another backup point guard?

Bayless has played 122 NBA games now and started 11 of them. He’s averaged 15.3 minutes per game, shot 40.3 percent from the field, just 28.9 percent from three-point range and 82.4 percent from the foul line. He’s averaged just 1.9 assists to go with 1.16 turnovers, committed 1.83 fouls while averaging 6.8 points per game.

But what if you could get a backup who has played 178 NBA games, having started 21 of them? He’s played 14.9 minutes per game, shot just 38.9 percent overall but 35.4 percent from three-point range and 84.7 percent from the free-throw line. He’s averaged 2.4 assists and just .56 turnovers (nice assist-to-turnover ratio!), with 1.12 fouls per game and accumulating 4.8 points per game.

Obviously, the second guy is a “safer” kind of player. He takes fewer chances, scores less but is more of a traditional point guard, getting more assists and fewer turnovers. He’s more experienced than Bayless and doesn’t foul as much.

For me, the other guy looks pretty good. So why isn’t Travis Diener, that “other guy,” at least getting a chance once in a while? What do they have to lose?

http://www.dwightjaynes.com/

Jerryds career stats are not very impressive. Sure he's had some nice games, but he remains pretty much a one dimensional player, and a poor jump shooter. When teams shut down the drive like they all do now that they are expecting it, he doesn't have much to offer. Despite what the stats show he is probably a better player than Travis Diener, but he is not even close to being as good of a basketball player as Rudy Fernandez.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Rudy has shown the ability to shine under pressure....I say go with the experience here.

 

[Nate Dogg]

I still wish that Bayless had stayed at Arizona for at least one more year to refine his skills.

 

[KingSpeed]

Rudy has shown the ability to shine under pressure....I say go with the experience here.

Nate started Rudy in Game 6 of the 2009 playoffs. It was the biggest game of Rudy's NBA career. He played 41 minutes and he scored only 2 points on 1 of 7 shooting. Shine under pressure? He hasn't shone that yet.

 

[ucatchtrout]

Nate started Rudy in Game 6 of the 2009 playoffs. It was the biggest game of Rudy's NBA career. He played 41 minutes and he scored only 2 points on 1 of 7 shooting. Shine under pressure? He hasn't shone that yet.

Pretty much like I said. You continue to whine about Jerryd Bayless no matter what. The stats you pull out of your ass don't hide the fact he is a one dimensional player without a jumpshot. Fortunately this fact hasn't been overlooked by the coaching staff. If he doesn't get traded over the summer, next season will surely be his last in a Blazer uniform.

 

[Minstrel]

Pretty much like I said. You continue to whine about Jerryd Bayless no matter what. The stats you pull out of your ass don't hide the fact he is a one dimensional player without a jumpshot.

Unfortunately, Rudy could be characterized as a no-trick pony. He appears to have a wide range of skills, but since he can effectively use none of them without someone else setting him up, he ends up without any true weapon. He can't create his own shot off the dribble, he needs to be set up for an open shot. He can't pass off the dribble, he needs to already be open when he receives a pass in order to set someone else up. He can't get to the hoop through traffic.

That is why "one trick pony" Bayless has actually been more productive than Rudy. Not because Bayless has been great...he hasn't been. It's because Rudy's game is extremely ineffective.

Both have a fatal flaw to their game. Rudy can't handle the ball in traffic, Bayless can't hit a jumper. Both of them would see their games jump enormously if they could fix their mega-flaw.

 

[hasoos]

I think it is fairly obvious that what the Blazers really need to do if they want to give Bayless the best chance to succeed, is quit trying to make him what he is not. He plays much better as the off guard. He may be able to play point after a few more years of experience. Right now he spends too much time watching for cutters but not moving enough himself to give the right angles to pass. That is because he is thinking too much instead of just playing. That will go away in time.

I give Rudy some benefit of the doubt for last years playoff starting appearance. Last year if you remember, Rudy and Brandon Roy had not started together or played together in that exact unit, all season long. Not once. I don't think it is a big surprise when he shows up in the starting lineup for the very first time, in a playoff game against a defensivly tough team, that he struggled. When you play a team like that, you need chemistry, and chemistry isn't developed the first game you play with a unit.

 

[OddEnormous]

What the fuck? Are you serious? Rudy has averaged 6 more minutes per game than Bayless and Bayless has still averaged more points than Rudy. When has Rudy ever stepped up as a starter? When has Rudy proven to be any more than a spot up three point shooter? Remember when Bayless started vs San Antonio and had 31 pts and 7 assists? When has Rudy done that? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

OH YEAH!!!!!?!?!?!?! Well remember that one game when Rudy scored more points than Bayless?


Learn the game spoon.

 

[hasoos]

Rudy has shown the ability to shine under pressure....I say go with the experience here.

When? In Europe?

 

[Luther]

Either of these guys have been impressive as of late. Rudy is NOT a seasoned vet. He is not clutch and I don't really expect too much out of him come Sunday. That being said. I don't think Bayless should see the court in the playoffs with the way he has been playing. I would honestly rather have Patty Mills in the game due to his jumper. Bayless is good at running into people and drawing fouls...I think Bayless has room to improve but he's going to have to work his ass off in the off season if he wants to be considered for a starting job ANYWHERE in the NBA.

 

[WillG]

Diener should never see the court again IMO.

Would much rather see some on-court experience go towards the development of young Patty Mills.

 

[KingSpeed]

Either of these guys have been impressive as of late. Rudy is NOT a seasoned vet. He is not clutch and I don't really expect too much out of him come Sunday. That being said. I don't think Bayless should see the court in the playoffs with the way he has been playing. I would honestly rather have Patty Mills in the game due to his jumper. Bayless is good at running into people and drawing fouls...I think Bayless has room to improve but he's going to have to work his ass off in the off season if he wants to be considered for a starting job ANYWHERE in the NBA.

Are you kidding me? He's one of our greatest weapons against Steve Nash. He attacked Nash for 29 points in our win over the Suns in Portland. I expect him to play a lot.

 

[MARIS61]

Looks like ALL our (uninjured) guards will get some PT.