+/- stats

[Rastapopoulos]

NBA.com has started the +/- stats for this season. We have this argument all the time about how useful they are, and obviously it's a ridiculously small sample, but what I like about them over PER is that (a) they give some indication of defense, and (b) they don't reward selfish chuckers. Unfortunately NBA.com hasn't set up the per minute settings yet, but here's the league-wide ranking of individuals. Gerald looks good - just 2 spots below Rudy (who has fewer minutes). But you know who looks amazing? Andre Miller.

(Felton is tied with Kobe with a +41... in nearly 100 fewer minutes!)

Of course, these aren't pace adjusted, which might be why Nuggets players look so good. Anyone got a site that lists a good adjusted +/-?

 

[jlprk]

Unfortunately NBA.com hasn't set up the per minute settings yet

I think that was true all last season. The first season they had per-minute and after that I couldn't get it anymore. Another failing of the site has always been that we can't link to the list only for the Blazers. It has to link to the league-wide list.

A couple of years ago another site did the same thing as this one, but this one drove it out of business. (I have the links on my dead hard drive, which is full of treasures galore from 10 years of use. It went down in the summer, and I'm still grieving.)

 

[jlprk]

I can't get anything out of this, for any year. Supposedly it has 40 minutes, and 40 minutes pace adjusted.

http://www.draftexpress.com/stats.p...r=2011/12&per=per40&min=All&pos=all&qual=qual

 

[crowTrobot]

But you know who looks amazing? Andre Miller.

took the night off last night apparently. -13 in 22 min