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All right, O-Live did it, now lets hear from a smaller segment of elitist fans like us. Well... those that have stuck around. Who should stay and who should go, the SportsTwo Poll. Please feel free to comment and argue.
 
Safe
Roy - improve stamina, feeling when to take over and when to get teammates involved, LESS ISO WITH 8 MIN LEFT TRYING TO SCORE EVERY POINT
Aldridge - loved the physicality improvements from last year; LA has improved dramatically every year. Hope it continues and that jumper gets a bit more consistent
Oden - Needs to see improvement in footwork/coordination, though, but no necessarily offensive moves. Yet.
Rudy - Not a big fan but had a huge playoff series. Really showed up. Please work on consistency!

Should be safe unless dramatic trade that seriously improves title chances
Bayless - big fan, but get a jumper.
Batum - continue working on ballhandling, shooting
Blake - Not a huge fan, but has a role for maybe one more year. Wouldn't mind Bayless and some new PG as the two, though.
Webster - Wildcard here.

?
Outlaw - Our best proven trade piece because he's not vital to the team and he has some value, but if we're not looking to trade this offseason he stays put, obviously

GTFO
Sergio

Indifferent on the non-rotation guys.
 
For a poll there sure isn't a...poll.

I'm limiting this to people that have at least been discussed a bit (excluding Roy, LMA, Oden). At this point...

Go
Sergio
Ruffin
Frye
LaFrentz (duh)
Shavlik

Outlaw
Blake

I don't think any of these guys have a role with the team. I used to be a huge Sergio fan, but he just doesn't fit that well, and having him around hinders Bayless' growth. I'm slightly on the fence with Outlaw, but I don't want to see him playing SF over Webster/Batum, and I don't think he's the right type of player to be our backup PF. I love his personality, and I think he loves Portland, but I just don't know how well he fits. I originally had Blake in a "depends" but thinking about it further, I'd rather have him gone with Bayless backing up whoever is starting rather than Blake as the backup. If he stays though, I wouldn't mind, I just don't want him starting.

Stay
Webster
Batum
Joel
Bayless

These guys to me are guys who I think can be a part of a championship-calibre team. I want to see Bayless get hungry for minutes, and work his butt off this summer. I want to see Webster come in with a bit more to his game, and silence some of his critics. Batum/Webster can be more than enough at SF. We don't need an all-star at every position. Trading Joel would be stupid. He's a perfect backup for Oden, means a lot to this team, and is better than any other backup we'd be able to get.

What Do We Need
-Starting PG (Andre Miller is my favorite right now)
-Backup PF (preferably a veteran like McDyess

I'd also like us to draft one of Johnny Flynn (favorite), Ty Lawson, or Eric Maynor. I might even put this as a higher priority than backup PF depending on how Bayless works this summer. I think Flynn could come in and step up pretty quickly, and I think the other two could do similar things.

EDIT: Forgot Rudy. I love him. I want him to stay, but if we get a stud at SF or PG then he has a much smaller chance at minutes.

PG: Miller(30)/Bayless(14)/Roy or Rudy(4)
SG:Roy(28)/Rudy(20)
SF: Webster(20)/Batum(20)/Roy or Rudy(8)

You encounter a similar situation when adding someone like Hedo. I'm just trusting management on this one.
 
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Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out:
Frye, Sergio

Don't think they are good enough to keep around:
Ruffin
Randolph

Trade these please:
Outlaw
Blake

Keep unless the deal is really, really good:
Bayless
Rudy
Martell

Stay:
Roy
LA
Batum
Oden
Joel
 
I agree with LameR, except that I think Ramon Sessions is the PG we should get.

I think some combination of picks/cash/Trout/Sergio/Blake should get us something good, preferably in the Ramon Sessions + backup PF arena. If we were offered quality for Bayless, I'd do the deal as well.

iWatas
 
Wait, you meant players? I thought you meant posters.
 
Stay: Brandon, LA, Oden, Batum, Rudy, Joel

Use the rest to make an upgrade at PG, SF, and PF positions. I didn't list more on the "stay" list not because I really want them to "go," but more because I am apathetic towards them actually staying here. I think a package of Bayless, Webster, Outlaw, some picks, and cash can help us fill all our holes.
 
Yeah, I was going to make a poll, but I was limited to 10 options rather than 20, so I decided to quit making the thread entirely. I didn't know it actually posted. Oops. Oh well.
 
Stay
Roy
LMA
Oden
Batum
Joel

Will Consider if the Price is Right
Rudy

On the bench - would like to see healthy before decision
Webster - but will trade if the price is right

Just as soon keep
Blake (backup PG)

Just as soon see go (and should have some trade value)
Outlaw
Bayless (as I've posted elsewhere, I just don't see a fit for him here)

Don't even want to see in camp
Sergio
Ruffin
LaFrentz
Shavlik

Transfer to Blazer Broadcast team
Frye - he'd be a great guy to have in the booth

Gramps...
 
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Stay: Roy, Aldridge, Joel.

Go: Sergio, Travis, Frye, Ruffin, Shavlik

Limbo: Everyone else.

Also, on that O-Live poll, Aldridge got a less % than Batum AND Rudy...the stupidity...
 
I agree with LameR, except that I think Ramon Sessions is the PG we should get.

I think some combination of picks/cash/Trout/Sergio/Blake should get us something good, preferably in the Ramon Sessions + backup PF arena. If we were offered quality for Bayless, I'd do the deal as well.

iWatas

Miller was just an example. I'd definitely be alright with Sessions.
 
Stay: Roy, Aldridge, Joel.

Go: Sergio, Travis, Frye, Ruffin, Shavlik

Limbo: Everyone else.

Also, on that O-Live poll, Aldridge got a less % than Batum AND Rudy...the stupidity...

It's the accent.
 
Joel and Brandon are the only two I would be heartbroken to see go, I like the whole roster, but I guess I am more realistic on the trade value of a lot of our bench players in terms of getting a championship team together... I don't see us getting championship winning all-stars for our rotation guys.
 
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Stay - Roy, LMA, Joel, Oden, Batum, Rudy, Bayless
Trade (if a good deal comes) - Blake
GTFO - Frye, Outlaw, Sergio, Raef, Ruffin, Randolph
 
Definate keepers: :smiley-bowdown:
Roy, LA, Oden, Joel, Webster, Rudy & *Blake
*you gotta keep Blake as he is a guaranteed able PG

Definate go: :smiley-sadbye:
Frye, Outlaw

Trade bait: :unsure:
Sergio, Bayless, Ruffin, Randolph, Batum
 
Definate keepers: :smiley-bowdown:
Roy, LA, Oden, Joel, Webster, Rudy & *Blake
*you gotta keep Blake as he is a guaranteed able PG

Definate go: :smiley-sadbye:
Frye, Outlaw

Trade bait: :unsure:
Sergio, Bayless, Ruffin, Randolph, Batum

Why would you want to trade Batum?
 
Definate keepers: :smiley-bowdown:
Roy, LA, Oden, Joel, Webster, Rudy & *Blake
*you gotta keep Blake as he is a guaranteed able PG

Definate go: :smiley-sadbye:
Frye, Outlaw

Trade bait: :unsure:
Sergio, Bayless, Ruffin, Randolph, Batum

Yeah why trade Batum? And Ruffin and Randolph are free agents.. and even if they weren't, would anyone really consider them trade bait?
 
Keep
Roy
Aldridge
Oden
Batum

Trade Only For An Impact Player
Bayless
Fernandez
Przybilla

Aggressively Try To Trade
Outlaw
Webster
Rodriguez
Blake

Discard
Frye
Ruffin
Randolph
 
Yeah why trade Batum? And Ruffin and Randolph are free agents.. and even if they weren't, would anyone really consider them trade bait?

I must be the only one not on the Batum bandwagon. I didnt see anything super-special about him this year. He got limited minutes, wasnt a scoring threat, played good defense....but over all didnt really do much. Now I am not saying he wont be good, he is a rookie and I am just going by what I saw him do, not much.

I have been trying to figure out why everyone is soo enamoured by him. I dont get it. I put Webster easily above him and think he would make a great trade piece since everyone is so high on him.

I understand that Ruffin and Randolph are FA, I just included them there to use everone on the roster.
 
I must be the only one not on the Batum bandwagon. I didnt see anything super-special about him this year. He got limited minutes, wasnt a scoring threat, played good defense....but over all didnt really do much. Now I am not saying he wont be good, he is a rookie and I am just going by what I saw him do, not much.

I have been trying to figure out why everyone is soo enamoured by him. I dont get it. I put Webster easily above him and think he would make a great trade piece since everyone is so high on him.

I understand that Ruffin and Randolph are FA, I just included them there to use everone on the roster.

I agree with this. Batum's ability as a defender was greatly exaggerated because just about everyone else on our team play poor defense.
 
Keep
Roy
Aldridge
Oden
Batum

Trade Only For An Impact Player
Bayless
Fernandez
Przybilla

Aggressively Try To Trade
Outlaw
Webster
Rodriguez
Blake

Discard
Frye
Ruffin
Randolph

Pretty much agreed, but add a middle category "listen attentively to offers" and put Bayless, Webster and Sergio in it. The rest stay where they are. (Actually, I'm tempted to move Blake to "discard" but I think that might be too nasty.
 
I must be the only one not on the Batum bandwagon. I didnt see anything super-special about him this year. He got limited minutes, wasnt a scoring threat, played good defense....but over all didnt really do much. Now I am not saying he wont be good, he is a rookie and I am just going by what I saw him do, not much.

I have been trying to figure out why everyone is soo enamoured by him. I dont get it. I put Webster easily above him and think he would make a great trade piece since everyone is so high on him.

I understand that Ruffin and Randolph are FA, I just included them there to use everone on the roster.

I think most people are enamored by Batum because of his potential. His defense was already the best on the team as a 19 year old, he hit threes at 37%, and he showed poise on fast breaks and finished at the rim. I also think most people see that he is quick and has decent handles (as opposed to Outlaw) and that could easily develop in some ability to drive past defenders (something Outlaw never does).

Unless we bring in a star SF, I would like to keep both Batum and Webster, as I am a big fan of Webster also.
 

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