Steve Blake vs. Bayless as of late...

[Luther]

Why has Blake played twice as many minutes as Bayless yet he isn't half as productive right now....This is really beginning to piss me off...FREE BAYLESS

 

[alex42083]

Because Blakey is so good, are you not watching the games? He has a great talent of shooting and hitting the side of the backboard.

 

[ehizzy3]

free bayless campaign has startted

 

[B-Roy]

Not just Blake, Miller as well.

 

[illmatic99]

On the season, Bayless shoots three times as many free throws as Blake, in a third of the minutes.

That's just sad.

 

[hasoos]

Yep I calculated out that Bayless would be averaging 16 pts and 4 assist per game if he got Blakes minutes. Not to mention shooting damn near .511 from the floor, which is completely awesome efficiency for a guard. Can you believe that?

 

[SpanishFly]

Yep I calculated out that Bayless would be averaging 16 pts and 4 assist per game if he got Blakes minutes. Not to mention shooting damn near .511 from the floor, which is completely awesome efficiency for a guard. Can you believe that?

Yes I can but I can't believe the morons are coaches are, fire all the fukkin idiots!

 

[illmatic99]

Yep I calculated out that Bayless would be averaging 16 pts and 4 assist per game if he got Blakes minutes. Not to mention shooting damn near .511 from the floor, which is completely awesome efficiency for a guard. Can you believe that?

Those are Tony Parker type #s.

He kinda plays the game like TP as well.

This fuckin coaching staff needs to be thrown to the curb for messing with this guy's talent.

 

[ehizzy3]

he was considered a lottery talent for a reason..blake was a second rounder for a reason....sigh

 

[B-Roy]

It's not just Blake. Andre has been hit and miss as well. Bayless should start, Andre should back, Blake should be traded. Andre should be traded as well if a good deal comes along.

 

[Eastoff]

Yes I can but I can't believe the morons our coaches are, fire all the fukkin idiots!

fixed

 

[Luther]

Bayless is playing great, Blake is playing bad....Yet blake plays is on the court twice as much as JB...It isn't rocket science...Give Bayless Blakes minutes. End of story.

 

[Denny Crane]

Curiously...

Blake shot 4-8 with 5 boards and 4 assists and 2 steals in 38 minutes. He was +/- = -2.
Bayless was 4-5 with 1 board and 2 assists and 1 steal in 17 minutes. He was -10.

 

[illmatic99]

Curiously...

Blake shot 4-8 with 5 boards and 4 assists and 2 steals in 38 minutes. He was +/- = -2.
Bayless was 4-5 with 1 board and 2 assists and 1 steal in 17 minutes. He was -10.

Absolutely meaningless. We watched the game.

Bayless was the only only one who cared.

 

[OneSport3]

Juwan Howard's +/- was +12...

 

[Denny Crane]

Absolutely meaningless. We watched the game.

Bayless was the only only one who cared.

You're right that I can't judge "who cared" but I do think the coaches know the +/- during the game.

 

[julius]

Curiously...

Blake shot 4-8 with 5 boards and 4 assists and 2 steals in 38 minutes. He was +/- = -2.
Bayless was 4-5 with 1 board and 2 assists and 1 steal in 17 minutes. He was -10.

How many free throws did Bayless shoot?

 

[Denny Crane]

How many free throws did Bayless shoot?

1-2 vs. 6-7 for Bayless.

Don't get me wrong, I have zero personal attachment to Blake or Nate, or Bayless for that matter. If you're going to lose by 10, you may as well play the young guy to get him experience.

 

[julius]

1-2 vs. 6-7 for Bayless.

Don't get me wrong, I have zero personal attachment to Blake or Nate, or Bayless for that matter. If you're going to lose by 10, you may as well play the young guy to get him experience.

Especially if the vet is part of the group that gets down by 24.

 

[Denny Crane]

Especially if the vet is part of the group that gets down by 24.

-2 (led the team).

Just sayin'

 

[julius]

-2 (led the team).

Just sayin'

and Juwan Howard was +12. Which proves the +- is a worthless stat.

But Steve is the record holder for most assists in 1 quarter, so obviously he has that going for him.

 

[RoyToy]

Steve Blake screwed up yet another fastbreak today, and it's beyond fucking old. The guy is a zero.

 

[Denny Crane]

and Juwan Howard was +12. Which proves the +- is a worthless stat.

But Steve is the record holder for most assists in 1 quarter, so obviously he has that going for him.

Is it really worthless? Maybe Howard should have played more, too. His 3 rebounds meant 3 stops.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Is it really worthless? Maybe Howard should have played more, too. His 3 rebounds meant 3 stops.

Howard has been playing pretty well as of late.

 

[julius]

Is it really worthless? Maybe Howard should have played more, too. His 3 rebounds meant 3 stops.

Yes it is really worthless.

Because was Juwan the best player on the court when he played? Nope. But he had the highest +- of the team.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes it is really worthless.

Because was Juwan the best player on the court when he played? Nope. But he had the highest +- of the team.

I don't think it makes him the best player on the court at all. It just measures that he contributed a lot when he was in. Whatever lineup he was with that went +12 should have played a lot more, be it with Blake and/or Bayless at the same time as him, or not.

Make sense?

 

[WillG]

Steve Blake screwed up yet another fastbreak today, and it's beyond fucking old. The guy is a zero.

But that's it. How can a professional team look so friggin bad at the basics?
I've seen HS teams that execute better and run the break better. It's like they don't practice 3-on1, 4-on2 breaks at all.
You can't tell me these guys who grew up playing the game can't run.
Yet, it seems like these coaches have a talent for making young players forget what they learnt (and enjoy) of BBall prior to joining the Blazers.

The Coaches have to be held responsible, and should be shown the door.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I don't think it makes him the best player on the court at all. It just measures that he contributed a lot when he was in. Whatever lineup he was with that went +12 should have played a lot more, be it with Blake and/or Bayless at the same time as him, or not.

Make sense?

I don't want to undermine anyone arguing with Julius, but +/- doesn't track casuation at all. Some +/- stats, especially with guys who are only in a few minutes, are total bunk, because they are heavily influenced by the flow of the game around them.

HOWEVER, 3 defensive rebounds does say that he prevented 3 offensive rebounds. Given the Knicks shot 41%, he prevented 2-3 points directly. Not bad. You could give him a personal +3.

The 3-guard rotation had the best "big time" +/-, and were all similar. This leads me to believe that the 3-guard lineup has some merit still.

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't want to undermine anyone arguing with Julius, but +/- doesn't track casuation at all. Some +/- stats, especially with guys who are only in a few minutes, are total bunk, because they are heavily influenced by the flow of the game around them.

HOWEVER, 3 defensive rebounds does say that he prevented 3 offensive rebounds. Given the Knicks shot 41%, he prevented 2-3 points directly. Not bad. You could give him a personal +3.

The 3-guard rotation had the best "big time" +/-, and were all similar. This leads me to believe that the 3-guard lineup has some merit still.

It speaks to chemistry. Your bigs put up nice stats (Aldridge 19 pts, 13 rebounds / Joel 8 boards), but didn't match up well with the Knicks who played small.

Knicks played 4 guards a total of about 110 minutes.

 

[Blazer_Hippie]

I don't think it makes him the best player on the court at all. It just measures that he contributed a lot when he was in. Whatever lineup he was with that went +12 should have played a lot more, be it with Blake and/or Bayless at the same time as him, or not.

Make sense?

I actually think it was because he was lucky enough to only play during the same time when Bayless led a scoring charge...it had very little to do with his own play and a lot more to do that he was substituted in when Bayless took over...