TB @ RANGERS

[Messiah717]

Kreider needs to start doing something besides showing great speed.

 

[Messiah717]

Down 2-0 already. This team needs to wake the hell up.

 

[chuckd3534]

This is one of those flat lifeless games for the Rangers. Happens way too often this season.

 

[Disturbed]

Unwatchable so far..........

 

[Stepupstepan]

AV has done a mediocre job coaching this team so far this season. This team looks flat half of the time especially on home-ice.

P.S...if i have to hear from AL and crew every goddamn minute how great the lightning is, I am gonna flip.

 

[Ranger71]

Bad job there. This guy never learns with putting Girardi on the pp.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Having Girardi on PP makes no sense. I never understood why he does it.

 

[Ranger71]

Turnovers galore. The team needs more power in the lineup, too many small finesse players.

 

[cagedlion]

...................and let's not forget, TB gets Rangers' first
round pick in 2015 draft. Lose-lose all around.

 

[Messiah717]

Down 4-1 in what has been a complete garbage effort.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Great effort by the team. Dan Boyle has been a great addition thus far. Looks like he needs to retire after this game.

 

[Stepupstepan]

They need to start looking to move Staal. He is a complete garbage now and will want lots of money.

 

[chuckd3534]

I know this is the MO of the board, and why it has almost become unreadable after a loss, but enough guys. It is getting really old now.

Boyle stinks. Staal is garbage. Why is Girardi on the PP. We gave up a 1st round pick (we also got a 2nd round pick back AND most importantly...MAKE THE SCF). AV is coaching mediocore this season.

It is crazy in here. Yeah it was a terrible flat performance tonight, but not every loss = the sky is falling. I don't love some things AV has done. I don't want Girardi anywhere near the PP. I also would let Staal go after the season. I happen to think Boyle will be good for this team and PP after he plays more than FOUR GAMES. So my issue isn't so much mentioning some of these things, it is the whining and bit*hing after every loss or bad game...it gets old.

It is what it is, and everyone has their right to type whatever they want, I have no interest in controlling what other people feel or write, all I am saying is can we stop with the negative sky is falling everyone stinks stuff after every bad game...come on now.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Staal has been playing like garbage, pretty much the whole year except for a couple of games. It cant be argued. He needs to be moved.

The sky is not falling but if this team cant get up for this kind of game, it is a huge concern. I don't know how you can accept these garbage efforts and be positive.

 

[Stepupstepan]

and dont give me that only four game excuse for Boyle. What hell was he doing in training camp?

 

[Ranger71]

Girardi shouldn't be on the pp much if possible, he just isn't meant for it. I know they're a little shorthanded and J.Moore sucks this year but still, you have other ways around it.

 

[Stepupstepan]

The top four (Mcd, Girardi, Staal, Boyle) have not performed to their capabilities this year so far. Mcd was not setting the world on fire either before his injury. Not worried about Mcd. Girardi is what it is. Just have to live with him. Lots of milage on that body, Torts ran him to the ground. Boyle's best days are behind him but he may still help once in a while. The concern is Staal. Move him and get a good return. Klein has been our best D this year.

 

[Ranger71]

Staal wouldn't even bring back much, maybe a 3rd liner and a 2nd rounder. Better off probably just keeping him and hope he can help them make the playoffs. They'll probably pull a sentimental thing like they did with Girardi and over-sign him.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

AV has done a mediocre job coaching this team so far this season. This team looks flat half of the time especially on home-ice.

P.S...if i have to hear from AL and crew every goddamn minute how great the lightning is, I am gonna flip.

Wtf?

 

[panzerporter]

No way in hell McIlrath shouldn't be in the lineup over the small soft bum Hunwick or the guy who's been handed a golden opportunity and is choking on it J. Moore. Miller should be playing on the 4th line as well.

 

[kreidertime]

As the team is getting healthier, amazingly they aren't improving. I have no idea at this point what they should do. What I do know is the team needs more than one deal to fix this mess. The third line has been total crap all season. The 4th line isn't much better. Tampa is this year what the Rangers were last year. A 4 line time. This is a two line team that can't always finish with it's top 2 lines.


I'm starting to warm to a Staal, Bodie, Glass and Fast deal to the Canes deal for a second, Sekera and Riley Nash in return. Helps out cap out a ton. Canes seem to love the Staal's.

 

[kreidertime]

Sekera and Riley Nash still do not carry close to the value of Staal. Staal to me would sign with the Canes if he did get traded there. It's a risk because neither Nash or Sekera has been a significant player other than brief time in their careers. However, the second makes it enticing.

 

[chuckd3534]

and dont give me that only four game excuse for Boyle. What hell was he doing in training camp?

You are right, he is awful also. 4 games have shown us that clearly I think. Can't argue with you on this. 4 games and training camp, after which he had 5 weeks off due to injury, make a clear case. Agree 100%.

 

[chuckd3534]

Our top 4 suck, our 3rd line sucks, our 4th line sucks, Girardi sucks, McD was bad when he played, Boyle sucks clearly after 4 games (he did have training camp 6 weeks ago though), Staal needs to be gone now, Glass is awful, AV has done a poor job this season, on and on. Considering all that, how the hell is this team right there tied for 3rd in the division after a whopping 22% of the season is over (which I agree is pretty much 98% of the season in reality and we might as well pack it in).

Now I agree it is done. We stink. Season is just about over. Let's all come on here and bi*ch and whine after EVERY SINGLE BAD PLAY...we agree...but it does confuse me how we are tied for 3rd despite all of the clear suckiness we are putting on the ice. Weird...but I agree guys.

 

[chuckd3534]

And BTW...no one is saying be positive after last night. They played like crap and simply didn't show up, which is sad and inexcusable, but perspective please people. We have some issues that need to be worked out. But after every bad play and every bad loss the board goes into meltdown and everyone stinks. Not saying we don't have issues and things we need to correct...but perspective....

 

[panzerporter]

With Stamkos back Tampa has a great team and they played the Rangers hard last year without him, shouldn't be surprising that they came to play last night. I still think the Rangers roster is better than last year's but for some reason the intensity is lacking recently. A trade shook things up last year and I still can't see them resigning Staal for what he's going to want so they might as well package him with a few prospects to bolster the lineup.

 

[chuckd3534]

Plus Bishop owns them for whatever reason.

This seems to me to be the typical SCF loser hangover. There have been too many games where we have lacked passion and intensity so far this season. When we have played with that passion we look real good, but it has been lacking way too often through 18 games. We need to get the fire burning and play much harder than we have been outside of the two Pen games.

My call is we come out with a big effort tomorrow night against the Flyers. That would be par for the course this season, so I expect a big game tomorrow night similar to the Pen game last week at MSG.

 

[Messiah717]

Nobody and that includes Hank has found any consistency to their game. Perhaps Nash who has been solid right out of the gate. Kreider is at the point where he needs to up his fame and finish. Or else he has Kovalev written all over him.

 

[NYR31]

We could only dream of Kreider becoming Kovalev, a 400+gl scorer in the NHL but really, i agree that he needs to step it up.

 

[Ranger71]

I would see if Edmonton will trade Perron and Petry for Hagelin J.Moore and Miller.