That Silly Let-The-Ball-Roll-Up-The-Court-To-Save-Clock Maneuver Is Lame

[ABM]

I hope the NBA somehow changes to rule for next season.

 

[44Thrilla]

Wow, if you let something as dumb as that bother you.... just wow...

 

[ABM]

Wow, if you let something as dumb as that bother you.... just wow...

Yeah, I'm real bothered. I simply said it was lame. It's not basketball.

 

[julius]

I hope the NBA somehow changes to rule for next season.

Not sure how they can change a rule to outlaw that. It's not like they're traveling, or double dribbling or anything. It's not cheating, nor is it taking advantage of some kind of loop hole. It's perfectly legal and if anything, a smart play to do. Saves you time, and makes the defense work harder because they're defending the ball without it counting against the clock.

 

[julius]

Yeah, I'm real bothered. I simply said it was lame. It's not basketball.

How is that not basketball?

It's not like this is a new fad. I remember Barkley doing that against the Blazers once in the 80's. It's no different then being the in-bounder, and bouncing the ball off of a player inbound, and retrieving it yourself.

 

[ABM]

Not sure how they can change a rule to outlaw that.

Simply start the clock as soon as it leaves the inbounder's hands.

 

[julius]

Simply start the clock as soon as it leaves the inbounder's hands.

That's stupid. Then they'd have to change EVERY shot clock related rule. What if there is a limited amount of time left? How do you decide when the clock starts?

If they did this, why wouldn't they do it for end of game situations? So against Houston in the 2008-09 season, where Brandon hit the game winner, the clock should've started the second it left the inbound passers hands. End result?

We lose that game.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You can shorten that by simply calling it the Steve Blake

 

[ABM]

That's stupid.

Yeah, probably. That was an off-the-cuff response.

Perhaps they can't change the rule. It just looks goofy/lame to me.

/mini-rant

 

[julius]

You can shorten that by simply calling it the Steve Blake

So, it's confirmed..we're calling it the Blanky.

 

[J~Rush]

Out of all the things to complain about this is a rather odd choice.

 

[Ed O]

I don't know if they continue to count five seconds until the ball is caught/the game clock starts. I am 99% sure that's how it was in high school, and it makes sense.

If that's not how it is, though... no big whoop.

Ed O.

 

[TripTango]

There's nothing wrong with this maneuver in the slightest. If the defending team is interested in getting the clock started, all they have to do is apply token defense. If they aren't willing to do that, they don't deserve any time taken off the clock.

 

[julius]

I don't know if they continue to count five seconds until the ball is caught/the game clock starts. I am 99% sure that's how it was in high school, and it makes sense.

If that's not how it is, though... no big whoop.

Ed O.

I always thought the 5 second rule only applied to the guy passing the ball in. Once it leaves his hands, the 5 second count stops. Otherwise, if they went to a full 4 count and then threw a full court pass downcourt, it could get to 5 seconds before the player catches it. And, who is to know when the player caught it vs the ref counting, etc.

 

[KingSpeed]

The rule is that the clock doesn't start til someone touches the ball. CHANGING that rule is what would be lame.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Why start a thread where the title is longer than the post?

 

[ABM]

 

[Loyalty4Life]

Is there any video of this?

 

[Pinwheel1]

I would rather haver them eliminate the flop call on offensive fouls 30 feet from the ball.

 

[Minstrel]

They should also make a rule outlawing taking "the easy two" when the defense is only guarding the three point line.

I mean, that just ain't basketball.

 

[jlprk]

They should allow necklaces again. No one will be choked. Only Stern would be be such a clod, so I understand why he made it illegal. Same reason he made everyone wear floppy suits. They're the best clothes a fat guy like him can wear so he makes everyone else wear them too.

Also those shoes that twinkle should be allowed. Also skateboards should be allowed on the tarmac.

 

[MARIS61]

I love when a player does it, as it usually catches lazy defenses off guard and should embarrass them. It can't be done against an alert defense.

 

[Draco]

I think when doing subs you should be able to play with 6 men for one possession (either offense or defense) kind of like tag team in the WWF. So you'd get a 6v5 power play then the guy being subbed would come out. They'd have to have some sort of limit though maybe only 2 times per half.

Nate ran this play vs Boston last season and it was very effective even with the penalty.

 

[Minstrel]

I don't know about 6 vs 5 power plays, but I do like the dynamic subbing in hockey...where you can have someone come in and go out while play is in progress. While subbing you can have one extra person on the ice, but one of them has to be going to the bench, not involved in the play. That could be fun in basketball, doing subs on the fly.

 

[TripTango]

I totally think that basketball needs a powerplay penalty system. Losing one whole player would be too much of an imbalance in basketball, but I say a player committing a foul loses the use of one arm for 45 seconds or so.

 

[mrkorb]

Players that foul out should be put into stocks and publicly shamed in the town square the next day.

 

[jlprk]

Elbows to any part of the body above the waste should be allowed by the offensive player. It would free up McMillan's offense. Also one referee should be merely the tiebreaker for when the other two make the same call differently. To make himself useful on the floor the rest of the time, he will be restricted to enforcing the tails tucked in policy. Also a new rule to help McMillan, the cut warning rule. Whenever an offensive player plans to cut to the basket, he must give warning by shouting "Cut" and then break at least 90 degrees during his path to the basket. Also there must be at least 2 cutters involved, one cutting and then passing off to the other cutter, both of whom must have shouted the warning to the defense. Since we don't do this, it will help us. Also the new "quickflow line." This obviously pertains to a line shaped like a figure 8 painted crosswise in front of the baseline which must be followed by any dribbler attempting to drive to the basket. The quickflow line will terminate in a dotted line under the basket, where the driver has 2 seconds, as counted by the new 2-second clock on the other end of the court, which he must see while dribbling under the basket during his layup attempt. He is not allowed to shoot either before the 2 seconds begin or after they end; otherwise it's a turnover and 1 foul shot. I'm hoping McMillan's system will become the paradigm of the coming decade.

 

[hasoos]

Why in the hell would you complain about this? Teams use this all the time when trying to conserve time and get back in a game. I have seen teams start doing it partway through the 3rd quarter if they are behind by a lot. Every posessions counts in those games, and you have to try and eke out as many posessions as you can, and by rolling the ball up the floor when they are not defended, it is what I call smart.

Also please note, that by your account, most end of game buckets would be impossible. If they started the clock as soon as the ball was thrown in, most games would be over before a last shot was attempted. So much for end of game insantiy.

 

[TripTango]

Ok, now we are just piling on...

 

[ABM]

Why in the hell would you complain about this? Teams use this all the time when trying to conserve time and get back in a game. I have seen teams start doing it partway through the 3rd quarter if they are behind by a lot. Every posessions counts in those games, and you have to try and eke out as many posessions as you can, and by rolling the ball up the floor when they are not defended, it is what I call smart.

Also please note, that by your account, most end of game buckets would be impossible. If they started the clock as soon as the ball was thrown in, most games would be over before a last shot was attempted. So much for end of game insantiy.

Based upon your post, alone, I have now seen the light.