Politics The DNC can't get out of its own way.

[bodyman5000 and 1]

See, this is what cracks me up. The guys that want it "Free" A) Have not earned it. B) Have no concept that free equals poor quality.

I blame Tom Peterson....."free is a very good price"

That's why Oregonians are commies

 

[dviss1]

I thought you had the VA?

 

[MarAzul]

I thought you had the VA?

That's right. That is what remains of what I had.

 

[dviss1]

That's right. That is what remains of what I had.

Why would you need anything but the VA? It's free for you.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Why would you need anything but the VA? It's free for you.

Gotta side with Marz on this. The VA sucks. What we were sold when we enlisted all those years ago and what we can expect now as veterans are two very different things. Just another fine example of our government at work....,,,

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I would.

But you kind a need to know which er to go to for what ails you. The don't cover all the bases in all places.

It is not run to care for people you know. It is run to for efficiencies. An then sometime not even that, they seem to have difficulty getting all types of Doctors.

I should be more clear. What you need to do is hit up Eugene VA and sit in their ER. I get that all services must be pre approved to be covered by the choice program.

 

[MarAzul]

Why would you need anything but the VA? It's free for you.

Did you read any of the posts on this subject?
Free and on a waiting list is government run healthcare you know.

But then it is not Free exactly.

Most Vets pay I think, depending on there classification. As a class 3 Vet, it is free for us and 1s and 2s.

 

[MarAzul]

I should be more clear. What you need to do is hit up Eugene VA and sit in their ER. I get that all services must be pre approved to be covered by the choice program.

I am not speaking of Veterans Choice. I mean the VA er in the hospitals are not all the same. For instanst, Roseburg does not have a Cardiologist available at this time. So you best know you have to go to Eugene's er. It changes from month to month, or day to day.

 

[MarAzul]

Gotta side with Marz on this. The VA sucks. What we were sold when we enlisted all those years ago and what we can expect now as veterans are two very different things. Just another fine example of our government at work....,,,

Thanks for jumping in on this. I do think everyone should get to know what the heck they are wanting and how it will work. Seems to me the track record is there to see. Wanting more of this is folly.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I am not speaking of Veterans Choice. I mean the VA er in the hospitals are not all the same. For instanst, Roseburg does not have a Cardiologist available at this time. So you best know you have to go to Eugene's er. It changes from month to month, or day to day.

Yeah, I agree. It is hard to keep up with the running changes. You may consider heading up to PDX. They have some of the best specialists in the country there. Being tied into the OHSU school, they maintain very high standards. Unlike most other facilities that can not retain Doctors.

 

[MarAzul]

Yeah, I agree. It is hard to keep up with the running changes. You may consider heading up to PDX. They have some of the best specialists in the country there. Being tied into the OHSU school, they maintain very high standards. Unlike most other facilities that can not retain Doctors.

Yes, I know. Years ago, both places were my accounts. Ha! I never anticipated being one of those old dudes you see sitting there waiting at the VA hospital.
I had no idea what it was really like.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Yes, I know. Years ago, both places were my accounts. Ha! I never anticipated being one of those old dudes you see sitting there waiting at the VA hospital.
I had no idea what it was really like.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Some countries are quite fond of their "single payer" system.

(Who invented that stupid term anyway?)