The elephant in the room....

[Ghost Pepper]

It may be just me but I feel the glaring problem with our team is ROY! He's the wrong player for this team and more important developing young talent which is all our team has been since ROY was drafted. Roy needs to be in a well executed slow half court offense like UTAH, LA or Boston. This team has a bunch of speed and a starting PG who knows how to find it. Roy is non of that! Don't get me wrong ROY is a great player but not for the Blazers... I think if we could package him for Melo we should do it in a heartbeat! Melo with this team could be lethal. I don't see ROY getting us there as the go to guy, not with this cast around him. Square in a circle! We've got a 45 record being played on 33 speed and it shows!

We should have the pieces now to take a run for Anthony, don't ya think?

 

[Wheels]

I personally disagree

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Would ya admit that our energy takes a dip when ROY is on the court! Our second string and Batum won that game yesterday, not Roy and that's concerning, be it that he's the go to guy!

 

[e_blazer]

We also have the wrong coach and the wrong two centers in Oden and Przybilla (when they get back) for the running game you're dreaming of. There's also the fact that Carmelo already told the Blazers to stick it when they asked Denver if he'd be interested in a deal where he ends up in Portland. I think that when we get Greg & Joel back, Nate's and Roy's game will work just fine.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I personally disagree

You're a mod now, you can professionally disagree too.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Would ya admit that our energy takes a dip when ROY is on the court! Our second string and Batum won that game yesterday, not Roy and that's concerning, be it that he's the go to guy!

You do realize that if Roy wasn't on the court Batum wouldn't have gotten those open looks.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

I think with ROY instigating the offense more, movement and spacing will be compromised!

 

[Wheels]

Would ya admit that our energy takes a dip when ROY is on the court! Our second string and Batum won that game yesterday, not Roy and that's concerning, be it that he's the go to guy!

I actually was pleasently surprised at the movement most the game.. especially the 1st and 4th quarters (which while I dont have the numbers handy, is when Roy plays most of the time) The team looked to run early off of turnovers also I noticed. And most importantly they didnt act like they never have run a fast break in their life, much like last year was.

Roy did his usal thing, 22+ and almost 5 and 5 to go with it. I think we are fine.

 

[MIXUM]

excellent observation....

 

[Wheels]

You're a mod now, you can professionally disagree too.

trying to not let the power go to my head

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think if we could package him for Melo we should do it in a heartbeat! Melo with this team could be lethal. I don't see ROY getting us there as the go to guy, not with this cast around him. We should have the pieces now to take a run for Anthony, don't ya think?

Have you not been following the Melo saga at all? The guy is not going sign a contract in Portland or any other small market.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Ya think that was because of ROY huh?

 

[Wheels]

Ya think that was because of ROY huh?

who are you replying to?

 

[Ghost Pepper]

I think Melo will go to whoever can pay him the most considering NEW YORK taxes and a 1/3 pay cut coming for the NBA might not be so attractive. Further if ODEN comes back healthy with Batum, Mathews, Andre and the second wealthiest owner in the NBA, Ptwon is an obvious place where a ring could be won.

 

[hasoos]

I think Roy is an excellent player. But I think that the facts are the one weak part of Roy's game, is fast breaks, and it's not because he isn't trying. I noticed several times last night that although Roy was giving it his all to head up the court with speed, that he just wasn't as fast as the other guys getting up the court. When you can't get up the court fast enough, defense gets a chance to react making it tougher to score.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

excellent observation....

Actually it wasn't.

 

[Wheels]

I think Melo will go to whoever can pay him the most considering NEW YORK taxes and a 1/3 pay cut coming for the NBA might not be so attractive. Further if ODEN comes back healthy with Batum, Mathews, Andre and the second wealthiest owner in the NBA, Ptwon is an obvious place where a ring could be won.

considering he wants the Glitz of NYC so badly.. I venture to guess that a ring isnt that important to him. (at this point in his career at least)

 

[SlyPokerDog]

trying to not let the power go to my head

I bet your wife wishes for once it did.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

SlyPokerDog was who I was responding to. I think the spacing created by our PG's caused Batum's open looks, not ROY being on the court!

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think Melo will go to whoever can pay him the most considering NEW YORK taxes and a 1/3 pay cut coming for the NBA might not be so attractive. Further if ODEN comes back healthy with Batum, Mathews, Andre and the second wealthiest owner in the NBA, Ptwon is an obvious place where a ring could be won.

Well if you are right, then you will be the only one in the world who called it that way. Denver offered him a huge extension. More MONEY than anyone else can. So why did he not consider it?

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Nice post Hasoos, I agree!

 

[Ghost Pepper]

I think he's not considering it because Chauncey is getting older and he's not winning a ring with the Birdman and Kenyon! Oden, LA, Wesly, Andre, Batum is a much different thought! Course maybe playing with Amare and his two great knees is what he wants, who knows!

 

[ABM]

You're a mod now, you can professionally disagree too.

Dang, mods are a profession? Where did I miss the boat?!!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

SlyPokerDog was who I was responding to. I think the spacing created by our PG's caused Batum's open looks, not ROY being on the court!

Miller had the ball. He did great finding the open Batum but the spacing was caused by the Suns focusing on Roy. Batum was just standing on the perimeter waiting for the ball. That 4th qrt was a great TEAM effort. To say otherwise means you weren't understanding what you were watching.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Didn't say it wasn't team, "YOU DID" said it wasn't just ROY! Perhaps comprehension is a two way street! HMMM?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Roy can be the trailer on the break (and he was a couple of times last night) so I'm not too worried about him "fitting in" with his teammates, the real question is whether or not we'll continue to see the kind of distribution or touches and movement we saw in the fourth quarter of last night's game or whether guys will stand around and stagnate while Roy works from the high pick and roll.

Much ado about nothing.

 

[XXPrimusXX]

Cool story, bro.

 

[OddEnormous]

I think Melo will go to whoever can pay him the most

It's too bad it only matters what Anthony thinks.

 

[Further]

Melo is out of the question. He is not turning down his 65mil extension to go to the Blazers, he is doing it to go to a super-market like NY or Chicago.

As far as Roy, he is an excellent player and brings a lot in his style that keeps the team together to pull out close victories. I am not completely against trading him, but it would have to be for a very select few players, and I don't even think Melo makes the grade in my eyes. Melo is excellent at what he does, but he really does not have a lot of layers to his game. Players I would trade Roy for are of course Bron, Howard and Durant, but that's completely unrealistic. Players that would be more realistic but still unlikely at the moment are Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Wade, and perhaps a couple others. If Deron Williams ever wants out of the Jazz, I hope the Blazers can snag him, and use Roy if needed.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think Roy is an excellent player. But I think that the facts are the one weak part of Roy's game, is fast breaks, and it's not because he isn't trying.

Play of the game at 1:28 here. Who throws the long outlet?