The "Good" News Is, We're Finally Out Of Iraq, The "Bad" News Is..

[ABM]

BAGHDAD (AP) — A wave of 16 bombings ripped across Baghdad Thursday, killing at least 69 people in the worst violence in Iraq for months. The apparently coordinated attacks struck days after the last American forces left the country and in the midst of a major government crisis between Shiite and Sunni politicians that has sent sectarian tensions soaring.

The bombings may be linked more to the U.S. withdrawal than the political crisis, but all together, the developments heighten fears of a new round of Shiite-Sunni sectarian bloodshed like the one a few years back that pushed Iraq to the brink of civil war.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility. But the bombings bore all the hallmarks of al-Qaida's Sunni insurgents.

http://news.yahoo.com/wave-bombings-across-iraqi-capital-kills-69-174329546.html

Only time will tell.................

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

what, no "unexpected" in the article?

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm interested to hear how this is spun.

 

[PapaG]

I'm interested to hear how this is spun.

It will be largely ignored.

 

[huevonkiller]

Unfortunately we can't stay in Iraq 100 years, like some war mongers wanted.

 

[PapaG]

Unfortunately we can't stay in Iraq 100 years, like some war mongers wanted.

I thought keeping at least one permanent base there was smart. We're still in Germany, Korea, and Japan; no reason to just pull completely out of Iraq and leave our bases there to terrorists.

 

[huevonkiller]

I thought keeping at least one permanent base there was smart. We're still in Germany, Korea, and Japan; no reason to just pull completely out of Iraq and leave our bases there to terrorists.

Yeah you just made the argument against yourself.

In 20 years we won't even be having this discussion, and those tv pundits you watch on Fox News will also become irrelevant.

 

[BrianFromWA]

wait, what?

 

[huevonkiller]

50,000 in Germany.

30,000 in Japan, another 30,000 in Korea. The neocons are nuts.

 

[PapaG]

Yeah you just made the argument against yourself.

In 20 years we won't even be having this discussion, and those tv pundits you watch on Fox News will also become irrelevant.

What?

You're not making any sense.

 

[huevonkiller]

What?

You're not making any sense.

You're losing the 18-34 age group, that's what it means.

Give us another couple of decades and then your fake Republican candidates will fade away.

 

[PapaG]

You're losing the 18-34 age group, that's what it means.

Give us another couple of decades and then your fake Republican candidates will fade away.

What does having bases in Germany, Japan, Korea, and Iraq have to do with the 'fake' GOP candidates? Are you a Ron Paul fan? If so, that guy is a racist, legitimately.

 

[huevonkiller]

We don't like your foreign policy. By we I meant the 18-34 people I guess.

What does having bases in Germany, Japan, Korea, and Iraq have to do with the 'fake' GOP candidates? Are you a Ron Paul fan? If so, that guy is a racist, legitimately.

Well no you're wrong, and I think Denny Crane already adequately addressed this. You just threw some bullshit out there.

I also like Gary Johnson, so I don't need any one particular candidate to vote for. It is an ideology so you can't tear it down.

Your beliefs (you are alright though) are old and unwanted to us. Please let your views fade away into obscurity. Nothing personal.

 

[PapaG]

We don't like your foreign policy (nothing personal). By we I meant the 18-34 people I guess.



Well no you're wrong, and I think Denny Crane already adequately addressed this. You just threw some bullshit out there.

I also like Gary Johnson, I don't need any one particular candidate to vote for. It is an ideology so you can't tear it down. You're old and unwanted to us, please just fade away into obscurity.

I honestly don't know what the fuck you're babbling about in this thread. What ideology are you advocating? Ron Paul's kooky and unrealistic vision? Denny didn't address the MANY op/eds written by Paul himself in the '90s.

Ron Paul is a bigot. Congrats.

 

[huevonkiller]

Oh and by the way buddy, the newsletters have been around since the last election. You haven't surprised us or anything.

Some guy wrote them when Paul was a full time doctor.

 

[ABM]

I honestly don't know what the fuck you're babbling about in this thread. What ideology are you advocating?

Obviously, he's against huevons.

 

[huevonkiller]

I honestly don't know what the fuck you're babbling about in this thread. What ideology are you advocating?

I have a lot of fun when I'm vague.

Really, I have to spell it out for you?

"We" are very different from you and we don't like neocons. What the hell else ideology could I be talking about? Me and Denny are different than you.

It is nothing personal though, I swear.

 

[huevonkiller]

If Ron Paul did something let the media prove it, and whatever happens that's his problem.

In politics the movement is more important than the candidate.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm trying to figure out how you made the leap that overseas basing (or lack thereof) has anything to do with neocons. Who is one, and what did they have to do with 140,000 troops stationed worldwide?

 

[huevonkiller]

I'm trying to figure out how you made the leap that overseas basing (or lack thereof) has anything to do with neocons. Who is one, and what did they have to do with 140,000 troops stationed worldwide?

Man you are really out of touch then. Watch Fox News.

 

[PapaG]

Oh and by the way buddy, the newsletters have been around since the last election. You haven't surprised us or anything.

Some guy wrote them when Paul was a full time doctor.

To be fair, you edited your post at the exact same moment I copied it, and I was responding to something you edited in it!

Anyhow, I think we can both agree that both Ron Paul or whoever is the GOP candidate would be better than Barry Obama.

 

[ABM]

To be fair, you edited your post at the exact same moment I copied it, and I was responding to something you edited in it!

Anyhow, I think we can both agree that both Ron Paul or whoever is the GOP candidate would be better than Barry Obama.

This country is an obama-nation.

 

[huevonkiller]

To be fair, you edited your post at the exact same moment I copied it, and I was responding to something you edited in it!

Anyhow, I think we can both agree that both Ron Paul or whoever is the GOP candidate would be better than Barry Obama.

Alright well you're nicer then a lot of other Republicans at least.

You get unfairly blamed at S2 imo, and you're good for the board I think. :O Just letting you know.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Man you are really out of touch then. Watch Fox News.

again, which neocons were in power in 1945? 1951? Which neocons are stonewalling the budget calling for those troops to all come home?

 

[huevonkiller]

again, which neocons were in power in 1945? 1951? Which neocons are stonewalling the budget calling for those troops to all come home?

Truman, Woodrow Wilson, Lyndon Johnson, Obama, etc. are also to blame for our Militarism.

Also you are right that some key founders of conservatism have a different approach to foreign policy. But neocons are very socialist with their military interventionism.

 

[Denny Crane]

again, which neocons were in power in 1945? 1951? Which neocons are stonewalling the budget calling for those troops to all come home?

Granted all wars since the civil war and before Gulf War I were Democrats' wars, and troops in Germany and Japan and elsewhere are relics of the cold war and those other wars (Korea).

However, huevonkiller has a point that he's not making very well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

 

[huevonkiller]

Granted all wars since the civil war and before Gulf War I were Democrats' wars, and troops in Germany and Japan and elsewhere are relics of the cold war and those other wars (Korea).

However, huevonkiller has a point that he's not making very well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

I wouldn't say that, I just like to drag out the debate with short posts.

Nice link though, good job.

 

[santeesioux]

I have no idea what is going on in this thread.

 

[barfo]

I have a lot of fun when I'm vague.

What is it like to have fun all the time?

barfo

 

[huevonkiller]

What is it like to have fun all the time?

barfo

My bad for being lazy, next time I'll rip into your bad policies much more thoroughly barfo.

Really, what is it you need clarifying? This should be fun.

I have no idea what is going on in this thread.

The neocons and Dems want more war, the Libertarians don't.