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This is long but interesting. I'll break it up into a few different posts.
Megathread: Abortion in America
Late last night, the website Politico announced they had a draft copy of the ruling in the Thomas E. Dobbs, State Health Officer Of The Mississippi Department Of Health, Et Al, Petitioners V. Jackson Women's Health Organization. The draft is attributed to Justice Alito and court watchers, including SCOTUS Blog, have confirmed that it matches his writing style and appears to be authentic but likely reflects an early draft that hasn’t yet been tempered down or revised for clarity. (Update: Justice Roberts has confirmed that it is a legitimate draft ruling.an explanation of our rules). Please note that comments that are nothing more than a user’s opinion on abortion or people who seek out or provide them, will be removed. Users who break our rules around civility will be banned. Many thanks to u/ghostofherzl, u/PhiloSpo, u/HillSonghood, u/aquatermain, u/SarahAGilbert, and the other mods and flairs who gave their time and feedback to earlier drafts of this post.
It’s important to note that while it is accurate to say that overturning Roe simply returns abortion to the states - and the draft ruling makes that case - such a claim misrepresents the current landscape related to limitations on abortion and reproductive justice. 20 states have anti-abortion trigger bans (bans that take effect when Roe v. Wade is overturned) or zombie laws (anti-abortion laws that were never repealed following Roe, meaning when Roe is overturned, the state will revert to laws that were in place in 1973). Some of these laws would penalize the person performing the abortion, others would subject the person getting the abortion - regardless of the reason for the abortion or their health status - to criminal prosecution. (More on these laws here.) In anticipation of this ruling, in the same vein as networks in the 1960s, reproductive justice groups are working on educating people who can get pregnant about safe means of self-inducing an abortion early in the pregnancy or fundraising in order to provide people who want or need an abortion later in the pregnancy with the funds needed to travel out of state. There are a lot of takes about the document on social media today and while it's impossible to cover the full complexity of abortion in a single post - we've skimmed over religion, it’s our hope this thread provides some clarity.
If you’re interested in a history of abortion outside the United States, this post by u/Kelpie-cat provides a recounting of abortion in Ireland. This post by u/Sunagainstgold gets into abortion in Europe during the Middle and early modern Ages. Likewise, [this response] also gets into abortion in the Middle Ages. This question about Assyrians and abortion got several answers. Finally, this answer from u/ Georgy_K_Zhukov focuses on abortion in the Soviet Union.
Megathread: Abortion in America
Late last night, the website Politico announced they had a draft copy of the ruling in the Thomas E. Dobbs, State Health Officer Of The Mississippi Department Of Health, Et Al, Petitioners V. Jackson Women's Health Organization. The draft is attributed to Justice Alito and court watchers, including SCOTUS Blog, have confirmed that it matches his writing style and appears to be authentic but likely reflects an early draft that hasn’t yet been tempered down or revised for clarity. (Update: Justice Roberts has confirmed that it is a legitimate draft ruling.an explanation of our rules). Please note that comments that are nothing more than a user’s opinion on abortion or people who seek out or provide them, will be removed. Users who break our rules around civility will be banned. Many thanks to u/ghostofherzl, u/PhiloSpo, u/HillSonghood, u/aquatermain, u/SarahAGilbert, and the other mods and flairs who gave their time and feedback to earlier drafts of this post.
It’s important to note that while it is accurate to say that overturning Roe simply returns abortion to the states - and the draft ruling makes that case - such a claim misrepresents the current landscape related to limitations on abortion and reproductive justice. 20 states have anti-abortion trigger bans (bans that take effect when Roe v. Wade is overturned) or zombie laws (anti-abortion laws that were never repealed following Roe, meaning when Roe is overturned, the state will revert to laws that were in place in 1973). Some of these laws would penalize the person performing the abortion, others would subject the person getting the abortion - regardless of the reason for the abortion or their health status - to criminal prosecution. (More on these laws here.) In anticipation of this ruling, in the same vein as networks in the 1960s, reproductive justice groups are working on educating people who can get pregnant about safe means of self-inducing an abortion early in the pregnancy or fundraising in order to provide people who want or need an abortion later in the pregnancy with the funds needed to travel out of state. There are a lot of takes about the document on social media today and while it's impossible to cover the full complexity of abortion in a single post - we've skimmed over religion, it’s our hope this thread provides some clarity.
If you’re interested in a history of abortion outside the United States, this post by u/Kelpie-cat provides a recounting of abortion in Ireland. This post by u/Sunagainstgold gets into abortion in Europe during the Middle and early modern Ages. Likewise, [this response] also gets into abortion in the Middle Ages. This question about Assyrians and abortion got several answers. Finally, this answer from u/ Georgy_K_Zhukov focuses on abortion in the Soviet Union.