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There would be a lot of people working for really shit wages. It's not that hard to predict. In places where the labor supply is larger than the demand, wages would be driven down below the current minimum.

barfo

Actually that's not how it works.

True buying power has plummeted ever since the minimum wage was created, creating our current worst ever wealth disparity.
 
without real estate agents making housing unaffordable a person could buy one on a wage ....greed hasn't made this possible...nothing to do with the labor force at all..more to do with snowballing profits and short term gains...at the expense of the working class...check out the homeless with the cardboard signs and you'll see very few are illegal aliens. The cost of living has not matched wages in a long, long time
You think RE agents are responsible for that? You're just fucking with Maris right?
 
Actually that's not how it works.

True buying power has plummeted ever since the minimum wage was created, creating our current worst ever wealth disparity.

You are a veritable geyser of misinformation.

barfo
 
I was a union rep. at Boeing. Yes, engineers and technicians have their own union at Boeing and the president, Frank Schrontz, when I was there was an ex member of that union and a big supporter. It is called SPEEA pronounced just the way it's spelled.

So, Washington state had a state law that said no matter what the status of an employee was, union or non union, he gets whatever benefits the union negotiates with the company. Kind of a shitty deal in my opinion. There's more.they wanted to fire this one engineer but needed a union rep to represent him before firing. They picked me so I had to argue for his remaining with the company even though he wasn't a member of our union, SPEEA, Society of Professional Engineering Employees in Aerospace. We were only at Boeing when I worked there, don't know about now.
I had to join SPEEA in 2006. I had to be let go in 2010 when they unilaterally decided to let go everyone with <5yrs of service because they didn't win the Tanker Contract (at that time). When my management said to the union "can we keep this guy? He's won national awards and is bringing in lots of business" they were told "we don't tell you how to run your management, don't ask us to change how we run our union."
Unions are great, if you're old and mediocre.
 
Don't sell yourself short, I think you're fabulous. And you have the gift for gab. Wit is an underrepresented entity nowadays.

Well, that's a nice thing to say. I think I'm going to have to go back and press 'like' on each of your 24,566 posts.

barfo
 
Well, that's a nice thing to say. I think I'm going to have to go back and press 'like' on each of your 24,566 posts.

barfo
Well, if you could get to at least half of them, @HCP might invite me to his next DND campaign. I have a 5th-level Mountain Dwarf Tempest Cleric I'm dying to put into melee. Channel Divinity and martial prowess? Wooo-wee.
 
Actually that's not how it works.

True buying power has plummeted ever since the minimum wage was created, creating our current worst ever wealth disparity.

You are correct. True buying power has gone down. The reason is that we no longer get the benefit of virtual slavery to produce our products and give us our services.

Of course, if those who live off the minimum wage had a little more to live on they might then be more mobile and the minimum wage in a locality would be truly competitive and fair. Oh yes, you'd also have to have a vesting that you could transfer from one employer to another.
 
Well, if you could get to at least half of them, @HCP might invite me to his next DND campaign. I have a 5th-level Mountain Dwarf Tempest Cleric I'm dying to put into melee. Channel Divinity and martial prowess? Wooo-wee.

Brian, what the heck does that mean in English?
 
I had to join SPEEA in 2006. I had to be let go in 2010 when they unilaterally decided to let go everyone with <5yrs of service because they didn't win the Tanker Contract (at that time). When my management said to the union "can we keep this guy? He's won national awards and is bringing in lots of business" they were told "we don't tell you how to run your management, don't ask us to change how we run our union."
Unions are great, if you're old and mediocre.

I guess Boeing had an old and mediocre president at that time.

Hey, I was at Boeing when they were vying for that contract. If memory serves me, I was up at Everett at that time. However, I started at the facility across from the old Boeing Field (King County Airport).

I saw AWACS before it was finalized and large drones which confused me a great deal. They also had the concrete cover to the Peacekeeper, aka MX, missile silo. I started out working on that silo. Yep, I'm the manufacturing engineer who built the box that shoots that missile. Ha, I am famous.

Let me go on, my right hand shook the right hands of both Nixon and Kennedy (JFK). I also had a conversation, albeit brief, with Nelson Rockefeller. Well, there it is. Wish I had more to brag about. Oh, I do have a cool flag pole with light and all weather flag right across the football field from Lakeridge High School.
 

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