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Nico -- simply stunning in the first half shooting, made some really sweet passes that should have gone for assists if anybody could hit anything, played credible defense on Williams

Dante -- played pretty solid defense, got called for a lot of questionable calls, took it to the rim with some authority. Nice!

Nice effort in the last three frames ... at least they didn't fold like a cheap tent. :dunno:
 
Bayless played good defense on Williams as well. Not really a great offensive night, but who did besides Batum? He didn't turn the ball over which is nice too.

Batum, as you mentioned, was simple awesome. I think he and Bayless are the future starters at the 1 and 3.
 
Bayless played good defense on Williams as well. Not really a great offensive night, but who did besides Batum? He didn't turn the ball over which is nice too.

Batum, as you mentioned, was simple awesome. I think he and Bayless are the future starters at the 1 and 3.

He had three stupid fouls in the 4th quarter that killed the momentum of our comeback. However, I appreciate his effort.
 
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He had three stupid fouls in the 4th quarter that killed the momentum of our comeback. However, I appreciate his effort.

Yeah, but he also had nice defense. What killed our momentum was Aldridge throwing the ball right to the Jazz, that is what killed it. Plus, 2 of those fouls were pretty iffy as in, pretty bad calls.
 
Agreed on all 3. I mean, we have to look at this realistically. We're playing without our best player and both of our centers against teams that are ready to make a push for playoff seeding. Winning this game would've taken a miracle and we still almost pulled it off.

The GOOD news is that Brandon will eventually come back to join the returning Batum. By the playoffs, if we can get there, we may actually have everyone on our team healthy and on the court short of Joel. With Howard proving to be a respectable back up center, we should be okay.

The catch is... we have to win at least 2 of these next 3 games or we could fall all the way down to 11th in the West.

And if Brandon doesn't get back soon, it could hurt his All Star chances, not that that stuff should matter.
 
This is the first time I ever thought Batum has the potential to be as good as Brandon Roy. Not saying he'll get there, but man he looked so much better than anybody else on our team tonight.
 
I think Batum has huge upside. He looked so instinctively smooth as a raw rookie, he seemed to know what he was doing and was always under control. He just didn't look like a 19-20 year old to me last season.

I've always felt that a prime Tayshaun Prince was his median expectation and his upside was a star...on both ends of the court.

I'm not going to utter the name "Scottie Pippen" in connection with Batum, because it would be extremely premature and crazy...but I believe I just did. ;)
 
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I'm going to utter the name "Scottie Pippen" in connection with Batum, because it would be extremely premature and crazy...but I believe I just did. ;)

Whoa there. The rest of the team looked so god awful tonight, he might have as well been LeBron out there in comparison.
 
Whoa there. The rest of the team looked so god awful tonight, he might have as well been LeBron out there in comparison.

I know, I know. I'm willing to have irrational expectations tonight, because Batum was that good.

I don't honestly expect Batum to ever get near Pippen. But who knows? Pippen, in his second year, didn't project to have the career that he did.
 
I think Batum has huge upside. He looked so instinctively smooth as a raw rookie, he seemed to know what he was doing and was always under control. He just didn't look like a 19-20 year old to me last season.

I've always felt that a prime Tayshaun Prince was his median expectation and his upside was a star...on both ends of the court.

I'm going to utter the name "Scottie Pippen" in connection with Batum, because it would be extremely premature and crazy...but I believe I just did. ;)

I just watched some highlights of no tippin Pippen the other night. And I know it's too soon, but I swear to fucking god Batum could be that guy. So smooth, such great defensive instincts, I could go on...but I'm trying to be patient
 
I just watched some highlights of no tippin Pippen the other night. And I know it's too soon, but I swear to fucking god Batum could be that guy. So smooth, such great defensive instincts, I could go on...but I'm trying to be patient

Batum (like Pippen) also has great passing instincts; some of those passes he setup to Martell, LMA and Rudy were almost jaw dropping. I love him 'tres tant.'
 
I'm going to utter the name "Scottie Pippen" in connection with Batum, because it would be extremely premature and crazy...but I believe I just did. ;)

I said the same thing last year - he reminds me of a young, raw Scottie Pippen

(That's what she said!)
 
It is not beyond the stretch of the imagination that Batum could one day be better than Brandon Roy. Flame away.
 
Batum is similar to Pippen mentally, too. (Pippen was affected by Jordan.) They are both tough, competitive, and ambitious. Batum announced he would return in the last game, and no one in management or coaching could slow him down, despite McMillan saying, "Maybe." His blog from last year shows a ferocious attitude toward making it in this new league.

In contrast, Webster is milk toast. That's why I say that Batum is a thinker out there on the court, playing strategically, while Webster is just a helter-skelter energy bunny.
 
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I remember at one point, in the mock drafts on nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com, Batum was projected as the #2 pick behind D-Rose. Dude has skills and people always knew. It was that bogus heart thing and lackluster play in France that made him slip. All orchestrated by Kpee of course.
 
The similarities are nice but realistically he probably won't come close to Pippen. Hell it's arguable if Roy is even better than Pippen when it comes down to it, although Roy is still early in his career. Pippen was an amazing talent, though.
 
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He's a more athletic Bobby Jones

Bobby Jones was one of the most admired defenders ever to wear an NBA uniform, as well as being one of the most virtuous. While most other players depended on the occasional thrown elbow, hip-check, or grab of the uniform to gain an advantage, Jones relied on hustle and determination. It was Jones’ stellar defense along with his other specialties such as leadership, that made him a standout sixth man. His only peer during the 1980s was the Boston Celtics' Kevin McHale. Opposing teams could ill afford to relax on defense when Jones came off the bench, and they also had to work a lot harder on offense to get the ball in or even near the basket.
Jones’s coaches used to marvel that he was so good at the things they had trouble getting many other players to do at all, such as block shots, move without the ball, hustle back on defense, tip passes, dive after loose balls, give up an open outside shot so a teammate could hit from inside—all the things that rarely, if ever, show up in a box score
 
Bobby Jones didn't score at the pro level. He became a defensive specialist. I think Batum will be as good at offense as defense.
 
By the way, whenever you read about the 76ers under Billy Cunningham, give all credit to Asst. Coach Chuck Daly, especially for their defense (e.g. Bobby Jones). As soon as Daly left for Detroit, Cunningham retired while his coaching reputation was still good. Quit while you're ahead. Daly went on to become one of the 5 best NBA coaches of all time. He totally changed the game, negatively, from Wooden-style fast break of the 80s to Jordan-style iso's of the 90s.
 
Batum, Rudy, and Bayless are proving that they are quite talented relative to their age. If they continue improving as expected of young players, then that along with our core of Roy, Oden, and LMA, that is a very bright future, assuming they all stay relatively healthy. All are within about 4 years of age, ranging from 21 to 25.

Let's enjoy and appreciate that we have a chance to see young talented players develop into accomplished, skilled players. Although the results may not be pretty (Rudy shooting 2 of 8 tonight, etc) at least we are seeing these player improve and getting more well-rounded (Rudy driving more to the hoop instead of being just a spot up 3 point shooter, Batum with his slick passing and smooth slashes to the rim, etc).
 
trade Roy and Webster for Chris Paul. Paul, Rudy, Batum, Zach Randolph (i mean Aldridge), Oden.
With Bayless, Outlaw, Przy off the bench. Champs.
 
I remember at one point, in the mock drafts on nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com, Batum was projected as the #2 pick behind D-Rose. Dude has skills and people always knew. It was that bogus heart thing and lackluster play in France that made him slip. All orchestrated by Kpee of course.

Actually, the reports were that the Spurs orchestrated the heart-condition ordeal. Batum's father had died on a basketball court which was the result of a heart attack, said a Sports Illustrated article. This raised red flags throughout the NBA, which forced Batum to have some tests done on his heart in Toronto during the pre-draft workouts. However, the results were not conclusive. The results seemed to indicate that there might actually be some borderline problems if indeed Nicolas did have a family history of heart problems. However, Nic's father had actually died of an aneurysm, not a heart attack, according to his agent. All the while, Batum's draft stock was slowly slipping.

Since Batum wanted to prove that his heart was fine, Batum had to re-do the tests on his heart in Cleveland where he worked out for the Cavs. The Spurs, who was the next team to work out Batum got hold of the test results on Batum's heart and all signs were that Nic's heart was completely healthy. The Spurs obviously coveted Batum, especially since he would be the perfect fit as the perimeter defensive stopper to eventually replace an aging Bruce Bowen, and to add a French buddy for their franchise point guard, Tony Parker. So the Spurs held onto the medical results and said it got lost, thus scaring off many more teams, and I think this is where Batum's stock took a big hit because if there were no tests to confirm that Batum would be a healthy player, many GMs and organizations will not risk even a mid 1st round pick.

Somehow, KP found out that Batum was completely healthy and so he struck a deal with Houston for the 25th pick so that the Rockets could draft Batum, one pick before the Spurs' 26th pick, and trade Nic to us for our late 1st round pick Darrell Arthur and early 2nd round pick Joey Dorsey. It was another magnificent Pritchard draft day move, swindling and maneuvering his way to get the guy they targeted and swiping him away from teams that were waiting for him to drop to them.

Or at least that's how I remember it.
 
Actually, the reports were that the Spurs orchestrated the heart-condition ordeal. Batum's father had died on a basketball court which was the result of a heart attack, said a Sports Illustrated article. This raised red flags throughout the NBA, which forced Batum to have some tests done on his heart in Toronto during the pre-draft workouts. However, the results were not conclusive. The results seemed to indicate that there might actually be some borderline problems if indeed Nicolas did have a family history of heart problems. However, Nic's father had actually died of an aneurysm, not a heart attack, according to his agent. All the while, Batum's draft stock was slowly slipping.

Since Batum wanted to prove that his heart was fine, Batum had to re-do the tests on his heart in Cleveland where he worked out for the Cavs. The Spurs, who was the next team to work out Batum got hold of the test results on Batum's heart and all signs were that Nic's heart was completely healthy. The Spurs obviously coveted Batum, especially since he would be the perfect fit as the perimeter defensive stopper to eventually replace an aging Bruce Bowen, and to add a French buddy for their franchise point guard, Tony Parker. So the Spurs held onto the medical results and said it got lost, thus scaring off many more teams, and I think this is where Batum's stock took a big hit because if there were no tests to confirm that Batum would be a healthy player, many GMs and organizations will not risk even a mid 1st round pick.

Somehow, KP found out that Batum was completely healthy and so he struck a deal with Houston for the 25th pick so that the Rockets could draft Batum, one pick before the Spurs' 26th pick, and trade Nic to us for our late 1st round pick Darrell Arthur and early 2nd round pick Joey Dorsey. It was another magnificent Pritchard draft day move, swindling and maneuvering his way to get the guy they targeted and swiping him away from teams that were waiting for him to drop to them.

Or at least that's how I remember it.

Jesus, I was kidding dude. But seriously, thanks for the info. I wasn't exactly sure how all that stuff about his heart got started, or why it did. And I now remember hearing about his Dad, I had totally forgotten about that. Well I'm sure fucking glad that we got him, and not the Spurs. Dude has "it". Fuck ya, go Blazers! :cheers:
 
Batum was awesome tonight. I loved his hustle and his drive towards the basket.
 

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