TheKnicksBlog: Rudy to Chicago by Monday?

[Fez Hammersticks]

Source says a deal with Rudy Fernandez and the Bulls could be done by monday. James Johnson to portland but blaz want a draft pick as well.

-TommyDeeTKB Twitter

Yes, we sure could use another SF.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

who?

 

[THE HCP]

Don't know ANYTHING about this guy! Bet he can't shoot the 3 as well as Rudy!

 

[Eastoff]

yeah, I'd rather just have an early first round draft pick from NY, if we're not going to get a star point guard.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'd almost rather have Rudy as a Blazers dancer than to trade him for nothing.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

James Johnson is like Travis Outlaw w/o a jumper. He's garbage.

 

[THE HCP]

NO THANKS!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

James Johnson is useless! They should pay us extra if we have to take him back!

He seems to have regressed. He only gets play in Summer League, and compare this year's with last year's.

He does have one important skill, though:

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(Also, isn't he the one who's a Black Belt is something, along with most of his family?)

 

[RR7]

I've yet to see Tommy Dee with an accurate rumor about us.

 

[BBert]

If Chicago offered this, they are dreaming. Damn right he comes with a draft pick.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Apparently, the Knicks are about to sign Roger Mason, and it's because they've just given up on Rudy (because they wouldn't give up a first rounder), which might be being taken as a sign he's going to Chicago.

 

[HailBlazers]

I'd almost rather have Rudy as a Blazers dancer than to trade him for nothing.

+1 for the female fans

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If Chicago offered this, they are dreaming. Damn right he comes with a draft pick.

I have a feeling this will be Zach Randolph (and to a lesser extent, Sergio) all over again: we will be shocked and chastened at how little we can get for a player we actually valued.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Look at the last 5 seconds of that break-dancing clip....is this HCP?

 

[Luther]

Great athlete but no thank you. If that is all we can get out of Rudy then I'd rather let him rot on the bench.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I also don't get the rush. I guess if we think it's the Knicks/Bulls/Celtics or nobody, and the Celts just signed Von Wafer, and the Knicks are about to sign Mason, we might want to jump at Chicago before we run out of options.

So maybe I DO get the rush....

But I agree - it would be better to let Rudy go back to Europe than to get James Johnson for him.

 

[RR7]

Also, Rudy for Johnson straight up doesn't work financially.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Look at the last 5 seconds of that break-dancing clip....is this HCP?

WAY too skinny.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I've been fiddling around with the ol' Trade Machine, and I've come to the conclusion that there isn't really a team that could REALLY USE Rudy. I still think Phoenix would be a match made in heaven, but they seem to think Childress is their backup SG, and they've just signed a guy from their summer league team (and/or Boston's) who is a lot like Rudy (Janning).

In fact, the team that could MOST use him is probably (shudder) the Lakers.

 

[hasoos]

I've been fiddling around with the ol' Trade Machine, and I've come to the conclusion that there isn't really a team that could REALLY USE Rudy. I still think Phoenix would be a match made in heaven, but they seem to think Childress is their backup SG, and they've just signed a guy from their summer league team (and/or Boston's) who is a lot like Rudy (Janning).

In fact, the team that could MOST use him is probably (shudder) the Lakers.

I disagree. I think Boston could use him, they have a huge need for more outside shooting. If Doc Rivers could make Nate Robinson useful, he sure as hell could make Rudy useful.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Having said that, thought of two more teams:
ORLANDO. If they had a trade exception, I'd settle for that and the rights to Fran Vasquez. One Spaniard who doesn't want to be here for a Spaniard who may never come over. (But at least is a very good defender. And certainly someone who breaks the "pretty boy" Spaniard mold.)
UTAH. Don't laugh: if Jerry Sloan can make defenders out of Jeff Hornacek and Memo Okur, he can work with anyone. And it would be kind of poetic to have Rudy replace Matthews...

(I think Boston probably thinks they've fulfilled their no-defense gunner quota with Von Wafer.)

 

[MickZagger]

I also don't get the rush. I guess if we think it's the Knicks/Bulls/Celtics or nobody, and the Celts just signed Von Wafer, and the Knicks are about to sign Mason, we might want to jump at Chicago before we run out of options.

So maybe I DO get the rush....

But I agree - it would be better to let Rudy go back to Europe than to get James Johnson for him.

There is no rush. Just because Rudy wants to play for those 3 teams, sure as hell doesn't mean we need to trade him to only those teams. He's a third year bench player and certainly doesn't have any kind of no trade clause in his contract. I see no reason why the organization owes him anything especially with the pouty attitude he had last year.

 

[blazerboy30]

I have a feeling this will be Zach Randolph (and to a lesser extent, Sergio) all over again: we will be shocked and chastened at how little we can get for a player we actually valued.

Wait..what? How does Sergio fit that description?

 

[BGrantFan]

I have a feeling this will be Zach Randolph (and to a lesser extent, Sergio) all over again: we will be shocked and chastened at how little we can get for a player we actually valued.

Well, unless Rudy is packaged with other players, his salary pretty much dictates what the Blazers will get in return (not much of value).

 

[Ed O]

There is no rush. Just because Rudy wants to play for those 3 teams, sure as hell doesn't mean we need to trade him to only those teams. He's a third year bench player and certainly doesn't have any kind of no trade clause in his contract. I see no reason why the organization owes him anything especially with the pouty attitude he had last year.

Agreed... and I don't really think he has enough clout to poison the team with a bad attitude.

Plus, there IS the chance that something will click and he figures it out as a Blazer.

The best reason to move him now is to keep a roster spot for Mills. I don't know if that's enough reason to give him away, though, for next to nothing.

Ed O.

 

[Nikolokolus]

What's worth more: giving Rudy what he wants (a new home) and sending a message to potential free agents and other players (and their agents) that Portland treats its players well and will do right by them, or holding on to him out of spite, devaluing him further all in the vain hope of getting some really sweet deal for him or potentially using him as a throw-in at the trade deadline?

In that context I think you have to move him and take what you can get. While holding on to him partly out of spite and to prove a point, seems like it will cause more harm than good to the organization in lost chemistry, bad PR, and potentially poisoning the well for future players who might have second thoughts about joining the organization ... particularly foreign players you might like to add to roster through the draft down the line.

 

[Denny Crane]

Also, Rudy for Johnson straight up doesn't work financially.

It works. Rudy's contract is $2.18M, Johnson's is $1.83M. The Bulls have cap space to take Rudy for a 2nd rounder. Portland is over the cap, but is NOT taking back more than 125% of $2.18M + $100K.

And Johnson was playing SG for the Bulls' summer league team.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Rudy makes 1.2 not 2.1 million.

 

[Denny Crane]

$1.25M. It doesn't work, unless portland sends out another contract. Like Cunningham or Pendergraph.

 

[mgb]

Agreed... and I don't really think he has enough clout to poison the team with a bad attitude.

Plus, there IS the chance that something will click and he figures it out as a Blazer.

The best reason to move him now is to keep a roster spot for Mills. I don't know if that's enough reason to give him away, though, for next to nothing.

Ed O.

I agree.