Thinking about buying a gun due to possible civil unrest?

[TradeNurkicNow]

Yeah, right. We should have just stuck with clubs, knives, and spears. Much more humane way of killing someone.

Killing someone isn't humane, no matter what you use.

Anyway, you would be MUCH less likely to kill someone if you had to beat them to death and be soaked in their blood and brains and teeth.

Guns are just Killing for Dummies with a basic point-and-click interface. It's rude.

 

[Master Shake]

There is only 1 way I'd kill people and that's on a giant T-Rex made of steel and malaysian house cat.

 

[crandc]

Well, here's an interesting side note:

Guns: No liberals need apply?

 

[mook]

Well, here's an interesting side note:

Guns: No liberals need apply?

Nicely handled by the organizer. Shame that a guy who'd done so much to help so many kids learn to hunt had to go and destroy his reputation like that.

Anyway, I'm a big fan of shotguns. They make a loud noise and if I were in a shootout defending my home, I like my odds.

I'll always remember years ago my new English wife heard something rustling downstairs. She woke me up and told me to go take a look. She says, "Take that coin jar in case you need a weapon." I look at her like she's nuts. My shotgun was leaning against the coin jar. "Oh, that's even better," she says. "You can really hit him over the head with that."

I love the woman, but sometimes we see things so differently...

 

[DaRizzle]

I'll always remember years ago my new English wife heard something rustling downstairs. She woke me up and told me to go take a look. She says, "Take that coin jar in case you need a weapon." I look at her like she's nuts. My shotgun was leaning against the coin jar. "Oh, that's even better," she says. "You can really hit him over the head with that."

I love the woman, but sometimes we see things so differently...

Oh my...that is freakin hilarious

 

[maxiep]

Make sure if you live in an apartment building that you put hollow points in your weapon. The last thing you want to do is fire at an intruder and hit your neighbor instead.

While I believe in the 2nd Amendment, I think you also have an obligation to educate yourself about guns.

 

[DaRizzle]

Make sure if you live in an apartment building that you put hollow points in your weapon. The last thing you want to do is fire at an intruder and hit your neighbor instead.

While I believe in the 2nd Amendment, I think you also have an obligation to educate yourself about guns.

Ah, learn something new all the time...Are hollow points allowed? I thought they were banned but I could be 100% wrong

 

[DaRizzle]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090330/ts_csm/ashooting

Atlanta – Four Oakland, Calif., police officers shot down. An Alabama man strolling a small town with a rifle, looking for victims. Seven elderly people shot dead at a North Carolina nursing home. And on Sunday, six people, including four kids, died in an apparent murder-suicide in an upscale neighborhood in Santa Clara, Calif.

The details in all these cases are still emerging. In most, the exact motive has yet to be determined – or may never be fully understood.

On a broader level, however, such incidents may be happening more often because an increasing number of Americans feel desperate pressure from job losses and other economic hardship, criminologists say.

"Most of these mass killings are precipitated by some catastrophic loss, and when the economy goes south, there are simply more of these losses," says Jack Levin, a noted criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston.

Direct correlation between economic cycles and homicides is difficult to prove, cautions Shawn Bushway, a criminologist at the University at Albany in New York. But an economic downturn of this breadth and depth hasn't been seen since data began to be collected after World War II, he also points out. "This is not the average situation," Mr. Bushway says.

 

[Sinobas]

If you kill someone who breaks in, you could still get into a lot of trouble. I really wouldn't want to do that. Keep some good pepper spray or bear mace handy. Mace them in the face, cut them on the arm with a knife, and tell em they try anything, it'll be their dick and nuts next. Then call the cops.

 

[MARIS61]

Most people that try and stop someone from breaking into their house with a gun, end up shooting themselves or a family member.

Ridiculous non-truth.

 

[MARIS61]

If you kill someone who breaks in, you could still get into a lot of trouble.

If you don't kill them, you'll likely be killed by them.

I prefer the scenario you suggest, where I am still alive to "get in trouble".

Someone breaks into my house, whether I shoot them or beat them to death with my cast-iron moose doorstop, they're dying.

It's not negotiable at that point.

 

[barfo]

You guys have a lot of people breaking into your houses?

barfo

 

[DaRizzle]

You guys have a lot of people breaking into your houses?

barfo

Its like "the big one"...It hasnt happened yet but its due

 

[barfo]

Its like "the big one"...It hasnt happened yet but its due

What are you doing to prepare for the big one?

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

Some things to find out:

Is there real evidence your community is significantly more dangerous than it was six months ago?

Immaterial.

He lives in Torrance.

 

[Paxil]

Personally... I think half of this is same panic like with Y2K... whatever. Only reason I notice ANYthing is different is my 401K... other than that it is just news stories. I am not saying there isn't issues... just that it isn't the end of the world. Go ahead... buy some guns though... it is good for the economy.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Paranoid yuppies.

Yeah, I said it!

 

[DaRizzle]

What are you doing to prepare for the big one?

barfo

actually about two weeks ago I put together a very good "survival/earthquake package"

 

[barfo]

actually about two weeks ago I put together a very good "survival/earthquake package"

Very good? We'll be the judge of that. Let's hear what's in your package. Yes, we are interested in your package. Show us your package.

barfo

 

[BlayZa]

i live in new zealand - its peaceful n awesome. y'all should move down here

(relocate the team too plz)

 

[crandc]

actually about two weeks ago I put together a very good "survival/earthquake package"

I have an earthquake kit, too. It has cash (ATM may not be available), water and food for a week for myself and my cats, spare glasses, aspirin, bandaids, flashlight & batteries, battery radio, candles & matches, wrench to turn off gas, blanket, change of underwear, few other things. I keep a blanket and water bottles in my car.

 

[Paxil]

As someone who has worn the same pair of underwear for weeks at a time in the Army... I'd say you can leave them off your list.

Other items are good. In Alaska we had to keep similar items in our vehicles at all times with emphasis on the cold weather gear. Running out of gas can be a life threatening situation.

Most homes have food for weeks and weeks... but stashing gallons of water is a very good idea.

 

[crandc]

I live in California, so really cold weather gear is rarely an issue, just a blanket. Where I work they have earthquake shelters, but if I'm on the road and have to stay in my car overnight, I figure water and blanket are bare necessities. With those two I can at least get by.

Oh yes, can opener, pocket knife also in my kit.

If you call the Red Cross, at least in California, they will give a neighborhood earthquake safety class and give everyone a kit. Free. I just added specialty items, like cat food, to mine.

 

[DaRizzle]

Very good? We'll be the judge of that. Let's hear what's in your package. Yes, we are interested in your package. Show us your package.

barfo

Emergency Blanket
Rain Poncho
4 footwarmers (like the ones you wear in your sock when skiing)
50 feet of rope
large tarp
Hand cranked flashlight/radio/cell phone charger combo
75 piece first aid kit
Work gloves
crow bar
Swiss Army knife
500 strike anywhere matches
lighter
jar of peanut butter
3 power bars
24 pack of water
long sleeve shirt
Pair of shoes and socks

I have a large package

 

[maxiep]

i live in new zealand - its peaceful n awesome. y'all should move down here

(relocate the team too plz)

I remember landing in Auckland and thinking to myself, "I travelled thousands of miles to end up back home?" NZ is as beautiful as Oregon.

 

[oldguy]

Talk about paranoia...

Paranoia my ass!

I live in Lane County. Last summer there was a family in Florence that came home to their ranch and heard someone shooting on their property. The owner confronted a 20 year old guy, told him it was private property, and asked him to go shoot somewhere else. The guy told him to FO, and ran off into the brush. When the owner was going back to his truck, the trespasser fired some rounds in his direction. The owner went to the house and called the sheriff's office. The cops said that, due to budget cuts, they didn't have anyone to send.

The owner, stupidly, went back to chase the guy off. More rounds fired at the owner. The owner made another call to the cops.

NO COPS EVER RESPONDED TO A GUY SHOOTING AT A PROPERTY OWNER ON HIS OWN PROPERTY.

The next day, the owner's wife saw the trespasser walking across the bridge into Florance. She followed him in her car, and then chased him on foot, until she found where he was going. She called the Florance police, and they arrested him, and turned him over to the sheriff. The trespasser was 'matrixed out' of the county jail within a few of hours of being booked....again due to budget cuts.

Have you heard of the Mongols motorcycle group? Supposed to be the most violent of all of them. The leader of the Springfield chapter was convicted of nine misdemeanor counts associated with trying to run a state worker off the road on I-5. He was matrixed out within 2 days, iirc. They put him on parole, which he immediately violated by leaving the state without tell his parole officer. When he returned, he waited a couple of days (probably to let the drugs clear out of his system), and turned himself in for parole violation. He didn't even spend the night in jail. (Parole violation is SUPPOSED to mean that you have to serve your entire sentence.)

Home invasion, where they come into your occupied house at night, doesn't get you a day in jail in Lane County. Those guys are released to do the same crime night after night.

If you don't think there is a need to be able to defend yourself, your loved ones and your possesions, you have head in the sand.

 

[barfo]

I remember landing in Auckland and thinking to myself, "I travelled thousands of miles to end up back home?" NZ is as beautiful as Oregon.

It is. I really have got to go back one of these years.

barfo

 

[oldguy]

Most people that try and stop someone from breaking into their house with a gun, end up shooting themselves or a family member. BTW you might want to stop driving, because you have a higher % chance of dying from that then from a riot.

Please. Show one shred of backup for that statement.

I respect anyone's decision to not own a gun. It would be nice if people would show a little more respect for other that choose to legally own one.

I do wish that those that don't own a gun could see that they benefit from their neighbors that own guns. Home invasion is a least partly held in check by the fact that the tweekers don't know which houses have owners that they can rob easily and which homes have owners that will punch their ticket.

 

[oldguy]

If I bought a gun, I know I would use it, probably kill someone. I have a short fuse and a "kill first, ask questions later" attitude.

How come you don't kill someone with your knives? I assume you have some. Golf clubs, baseball bat?

 

[MARIS61]

Just don't be this guy:

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