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So... Jrue's injury report was bad enough that we withdrew two second rounders from the trade, and Scoot hasn't shown himself to be the most durable, so... do we need a third PG? Is Banton still around? Or are we going to let Deni pick up the running-the-team minutes that don't go to Jrue or Scoot?
 
I've been frustrated the past few years when they've had (backup) PG by committee. It's obviously not a big concern for them. I'd really like to see them acquire a young guy who can run the offense and is particularly strong on defense. Then, when Jrue is traded or retires, they won't have to go find someone.
And please, for the love of Jack Ramsay, don't tell me that Banton could do it. I don't get the appeal, other than his size. There's plenty of chuckers out there that can actually defend if that's the kind of guy they want.
 
The person I'd really love to see was Splitter's PG at Paris last season:



I think he just signed a new contract, though.
 
Other suggestions:
Markelle Fultz
Corey Joseph
Monte' Morris
Patty Mills (if Dame can finish his career here, why not Patty?)
 
I don't know if we need a third PG. I think Shaedon does a great job running our offense. I think he can do the same kinds of things that Anthony Edwards and SGA do as lead guards and he'll only have to do it when Scoot is sitting if Jrue is laid up.

I actually hope that we bring Jrue off the bench and try to limit his minutes so we preserve him for the playoffs.

I really like the lineup of: Shae, Tou, Jerami, Deni and Clingan... if Shae and Deni are seen as the first and second options on offense, if Jerami can't handle that then Shae, Tisse, Tou, Deni and Clingan works as well.
 
is this about having a 3rd PG who almost never plays or having a competent PG?
 
wizenheimer said:
is this about having a 3rd PG who almost never plays or having a competent PG?
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I know a PG that never plays... his name is Paul George.
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Natebishop3 said:
You guys are overstating this. The Celtics HAD to trade Jrue. If we back out they're screwed. This was Joe leveraging them.
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If you think he's playing 82 games then you must be either younger than 35 or have a very high pain threshold.
 
I see someone is back to being a Cronin fan --- unless he is paying you with tickets or something just makes you look foolish as fuck. You do know once the new owner takes over he will fire Cronin as fast as possible the only caveat is IF Yang turns into a star or a the Blazers make a deep playoff run.
 
what would bringing back brogdon on a 2 year deal look like? like jrue he could swing between the 1 and the 2 guard spots. players get hurt.
 
lawai'a said:
what would bringing back brogdon on a 2 year deal look like? like jrue he could swing between the 1 and the 2 guard spots. players get hurt.
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He’s the best pg available on the cheap right now. Not sure he’d want to return though
 
I think, from a statistical standpoint, as some have touched on, you don't need a great distributor to be your 3rd string PG. Not saying it's not great to have that, but it's not a necessity.

All you need in that role is someone that can effectively initiate offense. Someone that can get the ball up the floor and initiate an offense that gets a good shot most possessions.

Statistically, then, I think the most important metric is finding a guard who handles the ball quite a bit and has a low turnover/100 possessions number. If there was a stat that measured turnovers/100 possessions or shots/100 possessions with that player on the board, that also would be good.

This is why I think Rupert and Sidy might be adequate if Banton is gone. All they have to do is get the ball up the court and get us into the offense. Even if one of Scoot or Jrue (presuming Jrue's even here) are out for a game, Deni's going to be running a lot of PG, too. A poor-man's John Stockton isn't required for this roster spot. You don't even need to roster a spot specifically for it. All you need are a couple of other players that can get us into the offense. Therefore, being a better player should outweigh rostering for positional need.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think, from a statistical standpoint, as some have touched on, you don't need a great distributor to be your 3rd string PG. Not saying it's not great to have that, but it's not a necessity.

All you need in that role is someone that can effectively initiate offense. Someone that can get the ball up the floor and initiate an offense that gets a good shot most possessions.

Statistically, then, I think the most important metric is finding a guard who handles the ball quite a bit and has a low turnover/100 possessions number. If there was a stat that measured turnovers/100 possessions or shots/100 possessions with that player on the board, that also would be good.

This is why I think Rupert and Sidy might be adequate if Banton is gone. All they have to do is get the ball up the court and get us into the offense. Even if one of Scoot or Jrue (presuming Jrue's even here) are out for a game, Deni's going to be running a lot of PG, too. A poor-man's John Stockton isn't required for this roster spot. You don't even need to roster a spot specifically for it. All you need are a couple of other players that can get us into the offense. Therefore, being a better player should outweigh rostering for positional need.
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I agree with your post, but that player does need to have good enough handles to get the ball upcourt against some pressure.
As high as I am about the potential of Rupert and Sidy, I don't think they can do that. But I do think Love can,
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I agree with your post, but that player does need to have good enough handles to get the ball upcourt against some pressure.
As high as I am about the potential of Rupert and Sidy, I don't think they can do that. But I do think Love can,
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Apologies if it wasn't clear. I thought I addressed that by saying all you need is someone that can get the ball up court and get you into an offense without turning it over (consistently). I think Rupert and Sidy both can do this, but I think SL will give us an idea if they're being groomed for that role.

The other thing to keep in mind is a 3rd string PG on the Blazers this year probably is not going to be facing NBA all-defensive team members pressing in the final moments with a playoff spot on the line. This is not a high-usage role, and they might not be 1st-string PGs, but the also aren't going to be playing a lot against 1st-team defensive stoppers.
 
PCmor7 said:
Apologies if it wasn't clear. I thought I addressed that by saying all you need is someone that can get the ball up court and get you into an offense without turning it over (consistently). I think Rupert and Sidy both can do this, but I think SL will give us an idea if they're being groomed for that role.

The other thing to keep in mind is a 3rd string PG on the Blazers this year probably is not going to be facing NBA all-defensive team members pressing in the final moments with a playoff spot on the line. This is not a high-usage role, and they might not be 1st-string PGs, but the also aren't going to be playing a lot against 1st-team defensive stoppers.
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No, I understood. My point was that I didn't think those two players could. I can't remember exactly who, but a couple of years ago, we tried it with an SG in the 2nd quarter, and teams caught on and started to pressure him, and it was a disaster. (Maybe Keon Johnson?)
Bottom line is, teams will prepare for it.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
No, I understood. My point was that I didn't think those two players could. I can't remember exactly who, but a couple of years ago, we tried it with an SG in the 2nd quarter, and teams caught on and started to pressure him, and it was a disaster. (Maybe Keon Johnson?)
Bottom line is, teams will prepare for it.
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We'll agree to disagree then. I think at least one of those two will be effective at it, and I don't think we're going to be playing a third-string PG big minutes in the 2Q of important games (fourth-string PG if you figure in Deni) and other teams are going to alter its minutes and rotations just for a handful of possessions on the chance they can rattle these guys so much that they'll get a handful of turnovers out of it. I think you're overthinking it.

Not saying you are absolutely, 100% off-base. Just saying that I think the odds of your premise are infinitesimally small. Sure, it could happen. So could a lot of things. You don't prepare for something that will happen 1-5% of the time at the detriment of something that will happen 50-75% of the time.
 
Id get a two way guy as 3rd string. Need someone that's fine with DNP but can play a few minutes if there's extended injuries.

With Deni playmaking he is partially the 3rd string PG so it's really a 4th string we need. Also Sharpe can create offense, Grant can create on the 2nd unit, and our bigs are solid with the ball.
 
I would hope they find some kind of journeyman/vet PG for third string, but I have a feeling that would be the one spot they don’t fill.
 
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