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Rick2583

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After seeing another non deep start by a Yankee starter I had to see what these guys were averaging per start.

Warren = 6 2/3rds
Tanaka = 6 1/3rd
Pineda = 6.0
Sabathia = 5 2/3rds
Nova = 5 2/3rds
Eovaldi = 5 1/3rd

Sorry but I just don't see this staff going very deep in the post season. There is absolutely no dominance here at all. Not by anyone.
 
...yeah, a 4.39 team ERA for starters puts them 12th in the AL (only Boston, Detroit, and Texas are worse)...and 23rd in all of MLB.

...the starters really need to pick up the pace.
 
Starters behind the Jays? And the O can't outscore the Jays either. Hmmmm.....
 
for what its worth, ......"its Vitalis Time"...!!!
(and I know I've left out a team, who wasn't worthy of being in a series). These Teams, who won Series, didn't have the best of W/L records, or Team ERA's.....

So far this years Yanx have scored 500 runs, while giving up 446...

the 2000 Yankees only won 87 games. The Yankees had the fifth-best record in the league. They would not even have finished second in either of the other divisions. They had trouble scoring runs (6th in the league) and trouble preventing runs (4.76 ERA). Scored 871 runs, gave up 814.....

1996 Yankees
The Yankees won 92 games. They were terrific in one-run games, going 25-16. The overall Pitching staff held a 4.65 ERA. Scored 871 runs, gave up 787 runs......

1987 Minnesota Twins
A 4.63 ERA......perhaps one if not the worst team to win a series, with 85 Wins.
789 Runs Scored, 806 runs allowed......
They were on pace to be a 104-loss team on the road — 29-52 for the season, if you can believe that — and a Metrodome official admitted that he adjusted the ventilation system to help the Twins hit better at home.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
Six of next twelve against the Blue Jays, may tell a story.
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This feisty bunch are brawl ready. Bitchin' that their players
are being thrown at...........so what else is new with Bautista
leading the way. This team may turn out to be my most
disliked AL East team...............right up there with my
perrienial hated team.....Bobo Sux.
 
I remember Nova dusting Bautista, got a huge chuckle out of that. Yep Yankee pitchers overall let people like Longoria, Big Sloppi, and Bautsita get to comfy in that box. Not to mention that the Yankees are 2-6 against that team thus far not exactly a prime indicator of excellence. At this time we will have to hope that Severino steps in there and has success akin to young pitchers we've seen with New York National.
 
Currently we have a 6 game lead over the Jays, So while we're kicking Boston's ass maybe the Twins can kick a little Blue Jay ass.
 
Rick2583 said:
After seeing another non deep start by a Yankee starter I had to see what these guys were averaging per start.

Warren = 6 2/3rds
Tanaka = 6 1/3rd
Pineda = 6.0
Sabathia = 5 2/3rds
Nova = 5 2/3rds
Eovaldi = 5 1/3rd

Sorry but I just don't see this staff going very deep in the post season. There is absolutely no dominance here at all. Not by anyone.
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yankeesince59 said:
...yeah, a 4.39 team ERA for starters puts them 12th in the AL (only Boston, Detroit, and Texas are worse)...and 23rd in all of MLB.

...the starters really need to pick up the pace.
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And yet Cashman wanted relievers... Hopefully Severino will help... but I would guarantee that he'll be on a pitch/IP count...
 
negativism ck2583, post: 3690932, member: 27857"]After seeing another non deep start by a Yankee starter I had to see what these guys were averaging per start.

Warren = 6 2/3rds
Tanaka = 6 1/3rd
Pineda = 6.0
Sabathia = 5 2/3rds
Nova = 5 2/3rds
Eovaldi = 5 1/3rd

Sorry but I just don't see this staff going very deep in the post season. There is absolutely no dominance here at all. Not by anyone.[/QUOTE]


So basically you're saying the Yanks can't beat Houston, Angels, KC, MInnesota, Baltimore or Toronto in a 5 or 7 game series?

Who said Tanaka and Pineda can't pitch very well in a big game?
And you won't be seeing CC in the ALDS and possibly not in the ALCS.
You know, the Yanks ARE expecting Pineda back.
Nova is pitching to the tune of a 3.10 ERA and should have his stamina and legs come playoff time....I can see 6+ good innings from him....not outrageous.
We'll see how things have shaped up by them.

Last year's WS had two teams with quite "mediocre" SP and PERFORMANCES with exception of one guy (Madbum) having an absolute all time great post season (like to see him do that again..lol).....
....But they both had a good bullpen. ◀Sound familiar?

Home field advantage could/probably play a big role in this playoff season as - imo - the Yank lineup is VERY capable of beating the sh!t out of those "other" SP rotations especially at Yankee Stadium.

Just for the heck of it➡ Yanks currently three games away from having the best record in the league and home field in playoffs....if they get there.



I'm beginning to wonder again.....jeez.
Where does this predictable foreboding hapless negativism come from?
 
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Everyone needs to stop worrying and start enjoying.
 
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Mattingly23NY said:
for what its worth, ......"its Vitalis Time"...!!!
(and I know I've left out a team, who wasn't worthy of being in a series). These Teams, who won Series, didn't have the best of W/L records, or Team ERA's.....

So far this years Yanx have scored 500 runs, while giving up 446...

the 2000 Yankees only won 87 games. The Yankees had the fifth-best record in the league. They would not even have finished second in either of the other divisions. They had trouble scoring runs (6th in the league) and trouble preventing runs (4.76 ERA). Scored 871 runs, gave up 814.....

1996 Yankees
The Yankees won 92 games. They were terrific in one-run games, going 25-16. The overall Pitching staff held a 4.65 ERA. Scored 871 runs, gave up 787 runs......

1987 Minnesota Twins
A 4.63 ERA......perhaps one if not the worst team to win a series, with 85 Wins.
789 Runs Scored, 806 runs allowed......
They were on pace to be a 104-loss team on the road — 29-52 for the season, if you can believe that — and a Metrodome official admitted that he adjusted the ventilation system to help the Twins hit better at home.
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Nice work- and those Twins have the distinction of being the VERY VERY rare team of winning or even appearing in a WS with a minus run differential for the reg season. Not impossible, almost like getting struck by lightning.
 
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blgridesagain said:
Nice work- and those Twins have the distinction of being the VERY VERY rare team of winning or even appearing in a WS with a minus run differential for the reg season. Not impossible, almost like getting struck by lightning.
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Wait a minute Rob, are you telling me that a team (Twins) who had a MINUS run differential actually won a world series? I didn't know that.
 
The Yankees will have to take care of business, Minnesota provided no help at all today, that trend will no doubt continue,
 
Yeah I saw that Michael, Price pitched an excellent game.
 
Rick2583 said:
Wait a minute Rob, are you telling me that a team (Twins) who had a MINUS run differential actually won a world series? I didn't know that.
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Yep, most definitely, those Twins, who only won their Series Home games, had a glaring -20** point differential.....

I could of sworn a 2nd team, since the 70s, who appeared in a W.S. also had as horrible an away record, yet, can't for the life of me, recall who........

** Rev. 1- "typo-correction, was: -17 S/B: -20
 
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Mattingly23NY said:
Yep, most definitely, those Twins, who only won their Series Home games, had a glaring -17 point differential.....

I could of sworn a 2nd team, since the 70s, who appeared in a W.S. also had as horrible an away record, yet, can't for the life of me, recall who........
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I didn't check by how about the Cardinals, didn't they win a WS a few years back with only 83 wins? What was there run differential?
 
Rick2583 said:
Wait a minute Rob, are you telling me that a team (Twins) who had a MINUS run differential actually won a world series? I didn't know that.
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blg here,.... (not Rob, lol) - but someone did expand on my negative run differential comment (post 19) concerning his fine post (#4).
Take a good look at those Twins - you won't find too many others. :smiley-no:
Maybe I'll find the time to take a deeper look...kinda curious to see how many times it HAS happened.

Maybe we can file it under teams who won the WS or pennant with the fewest seasonal wins or something like that.......1973 Mets?
82 wins and they took the great dynastic "Swingin' A's to 7 games in the WS before losing it.
This was the middle WS title of the three straight Oaklnad won in those years.
 
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Ok, here we go:

the 2007 Diamondbacks, held a -20 Run Differential, as the LAST team to Win their Division Pennant, while beating the Cubs in the ALDS, then losing to the Rockies in the 07 NLCS......

(more on the way- maybe)
 
Rick2583 said:
I didn't check by how about the Cardinals, didn't they win a WS a few years back with only 83 wins? What was there run differential?
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I'll check it out, in just a second or five......
 
Rick2583 said:
I didn't check by how about the Cardinals, didn't they win a WS a few years back with only 83 wins? What was there run differential?
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I'm gonna' keep on digging, cuz I do believe there were a few other teams, who won their Div Pennants with minus run differentials.....

I too was thinking the Cardinals, and possibly Astro's; and will keep looking at Run Differential stats, as well as the Astro's, ah hell for all teams.....

014 Cards, as of Sept 2. 2014, the Cards had a minus -6 Game Run Differential, yet in the last 3 weeks, and by close of the season, held a 90-72 Record, with a finale of +16 Run Diff......

The 2006 Cardinals, with only 83 Wins, had a -6 Run Diff as of Sept. 2nd, 2014.......In the last 3 weeks of 014, those Cards, made up a -6 Run Diff on Sept. 2nd, 2014; to +19 at Season's end....AND WON the World Series vs Detroit.

I can't seem to find anything to refute this statement noted below: {yet I believe the answer(s) or- "Teams who went to a Series, with a minus run diff, may just be in the decade of the 80s.......}

The 2007 Diamondbacks were the last team to win a division title with a negative run differential, getting outscored by 20 runs over the course of the season. That Arizona team was 32-20 in one-run games, accounting for a big chunk of a 90-72 final record, and explaining how the Diamondbacks could finish ahead of a Rockies team that outscored its opponents, 860-758, for the campaign (including a one-game playoff for the wild card against the Padres). Colorado was 19-19 in one-run games that year.

More or less the pattern I am seeing in Teams over History, who had minus Run Differentials and still made it into the Playoffs, basically won most of the 1 run decision games, but when they got beat, they were beaten soundly often in double digit beatings.......

I'm gonna' still keep on looking at this Run Differentials of Teams in Playoffs, or Pennant Winners, more importantly at W.S. Winners, which I don't think the 87 Twins can be topped......
 
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