Todas Las Cosas Fultz

[Fez Hammersticks]

Browsing Twitter and a common theme amongst Philly beat writers is that Fultz needs two things:

*A team that can develop him slowly -- ie don't expect immediate results

*A "sensitive city" to their players

Portland was specifically mentioned as an ideal situation.

Ladies, yay or nay?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

They're going to want far too much for him.

But I totally expect Philly writers to say that they're positive that Portland would trade Lillard for him.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

They're going to want far too much for him.

But I totally expect Philly writers to say that they're positive that Portland would trade Lillard for him.

One verified account suggested Aminu/Sauce/1st rounder

 

[SlyPokerDog]

One verified account suggested Aminu/Sauce/1st rounder

Done! Have their people call our people.

 

[hoopsjock]

One verified account suggested Aminu/Sauce/1st rounder

It's still 3 weeks until Sauce is available to be traded, but why would the 76ers want him back? I was thinking about some sort of deal around Aminu for Fultz mainly because Philly will probably want an expiring vet. I was also trying to think of other teams that would be interested in a 3 way deal where they would get Fultz and we'd get something else. I wonder if any teams would give up any value for him?

 

[Sarni]

A first round pick should be enough for him at this point.

 

[theprunetang]

No thanks. Not a fan and don't think he will be productive in this league. I mean best case scenario, he gets his shot back and becomes a poor man's Devin Booker. We kind of already have enough tweener guards as it is.

 

[H.C.]

A city sensitive towards players?
They do realize Nards is on the roster right?

 

[ripcityboy]

A city sensitive towards players?
They do realize Nards is on the roster right?

Yeah but compared to Philly, Portland is Stuart Smalley.

 

[BonesJones]

One verified account suggested Aminu/Sauce/1st rounder

I'd do that in a heartbeat...

 

[Mediocre Man]

Horrible fit here

 

[SwissBlazer]

In his last pod, Wojnarowski said that Philly will have a hard time getting a 1st round pick for him. So yeah, I'd buy that low for a former player of the Huskies who already has a connection in NW.

 

[theprunetang]

Hard pass from me. At this point, I would rather take a chance on Simons. Fultz is like D'Angelo Russell with a broken jumpshot.

 

[BonesJones]

Hard pass from me. At this point, I would rather take a chance on Simons. Fultz is like D'Angelo Russell with a broken jumpshot.

Fultz is nothing like Russell. Why not take a chance on both? Fultz has a much better chance at panning out.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Some writer I read somewhere suggested Rozier for Fultz. I'd say that was perfect. Rozier's pissed that his minutes have been slashed and Kyrie's already said he's re-signing.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Sixers want shooting above all. That should be borne in mind. I suggested Evan Fournier a while back and was laughed at. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW (that Orlando is doing well and Fournier is a big part of it)? Of course, Philly no longer has our old pal Bayless to make salaries closer.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Hard pass from me. At this point, I would rather take a chance on Simons. Fultz is like D'Angelo Russell with a broken jumpshot.

Talking of whom: I think Fultz for Russell might make a lot of sense. Nets are better with Spencer Dinwiddie right now, but Russell is certainly a scorer. Philly might prefer someone who plays a lick of defense, but beggars can't be choosers.

 

[oldmangrouch]

No. I don't know if Fultz is physically broken or psychologically broken - but either way it makes no sense to give up anything of value for him.

 

[James lamphear]

I definitely wouldn't give up 1st for him. Right night the kid is physically and mentally broken. But it would olshey type of deal.

 

[julius]

Only if he was free.

 

[handiman]

Some writer I read somewhere suggested Rozier for Fultz. I'd say that was perfect. Rozier's pissed that his minutes have been slashed and Kyrie's already said he's re-signing.

That would effectively be Fultz and Tatum for Rozier. Even if Fultz never pans out, that's brutal.

 

[James lamphear]

We do have TPE that we can trade for him. I would waived Baldwin if they do that and the reason why Baldwin because last game when he turnover the ball all he did was jog back and I don't think he is that good.

 

[illmatic99]

For all this talk about process, Philly sure messed up a bunch of chances with the Fultz/Okafor/Noel picks. They fell ass backwards into Simmons and Embiid. Talk about fluke.

 

[Scalma]

I was just thinking we needed another guard.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think this trade would stand a chance of being agreeable to all parties:

Sixers get Rozier to replace two PGs, so they can give him plenty of minutes and he won't be there to kill them in the playoffs.
Suns get a shot at a backcourt mate for Booker, and can play uptempo which might help Fultz. And if not, no matter: they offloaded their own bust-like high lottery pick.
Celtics were going to lose Rozier anyway, get a very solid defensively-minded backup PG for now, and a potential multi-position player of just the kind that Stevens has shown a knack for developing.
However, granted that the Celtics are probably the most likely to balk.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Obviously I've got too much time on my hands because I can't help obsessing over the best place for Fultz (it's a sickness, I know).
Places that are great at developing players:
MIAMI: what would they trade? They wouldn't want to give up good players for a possible bust. Winslow maybe?
SAN ANTONIO: same question. Patty Mills would be a good fit for the Sixers (and a fellow Aussie for Simmons) but isn't he a bit old now?
UTAH: I feel like Dante Exum for Fultz might be a fair swap, and there's that Aussie connection again, but Exum can't shoot either. However, he can defend really well, and the Jazz might not be inclined to give him up for (again) a potential bust.
MAVS: they'd love to give up Wesley for Fultz, but although that would actually help Philly in the short term, I doubt they think that would be fair. Maybe Harrison Barnes? But who would Philly throw in to make up salaries?

Teams that need a PG:
INDY: who would they give up? Bodganovic is a very good shooter/scorer but he's also a very poor defender, so...?
SUNS: see above suggestion
KNICKS: talk about out of the frying pan into the fire (for a player who's "sensitive") But I think Ntilikina would work nicely in Philly because he's flexible but not necessarily a pure PG (and wouldn't need to be next to Simmons). However, he's not (yet) much of a shooter either.

(In case it's not obvious: I think Portland makes very little sense for Fultz. Unless maybe Philly wanted to swap ET for him, but I don't think they had a particularly happy experience with him last time round.)

 

[Rastapopoulos]

For all this talk about process, Philly sure messed up a bunch of chances with the Fultz/Okafor/Noel picks. They fell ass backwards into Simmons and Embiid. Talk about fluke.

Basically they took either superstars or duds. Whereas other teams usually pick very solid players. So it averages out the same. Let's compare them with, say, Sacramento or Phoenix, shall we?

 

[julius]

For all this talk about process, Philly sure messed up a bunch of chances with the Fultz/Okafor/Noel picks. They fell ass backwards into Simmons and Embiid. Talk about fluke.

Very true. Portland fell into 2 solid drafts in a row...that ended up netting them nothing in the long run (I guess LMA made them relevant, but nothing special).

They lucked into things. It doesn't always work out this way. I don't know if I'd be able to maintain being a fan if the Blazers went that route.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

That would effectively be Fultz and Tatum for Rozier. Even if Fultz never pans out, that's brutal.

I don't follow your reasoning. First of all (and people forget this all the time) PHILLY NEVER HAD A SHOT AT TATUM. Think about it: Boston always wanted Tatum and Boston had the #1 pick. If there was ANY CHANCE AT ALL that they wouldn't get Tatum, Ainge would never have traded the pick.
Also: you make it seem as if Philly could have had both. But they swapped the pick that became Tatum for Fultz. So if you like, you can (at best) pretend that Philly swapped Tatum for Rozier (assuming this goes through) but of course they wouldn't've got Tatum if they kept the #3 pick.

 

[Natebishop3]

I would take him on as a project.

He's only 20 years old. He could be the heir apparent for Dame and this team does remarkably well with scoring guards. I just wouldn't give up anything of real value for him.