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Buzz Killington

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8 models of toyotas are being recalled, pretty historic for the auto industry. fuck! that's nuts. Not only recalled, they STOPPED selling the models.

2009-2010 Toyota Rav4, Corolla, Matrix, 2005-2010 Avalon, 2007-2010 Camry, 2010 Highlander, 2007-2010 Tundra and 2008-2010 Sequoia..

The Camry Hybrid is not included in the recall.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=7017760

Pretty fucking freaky....accelerator stuck, they all died. :sigh:

This issue was known a few months ago I believe...i wonder if they did the "Ford Pinto Cost/Benefit Analysis".
 
I'm glad my recall (207,000 vehicles was an easy one (fire risk).
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Wow, that was a fucked up 911 call.

I think if this ever happened to me, I'd try to put the car in neutral, blow the engine, and slam on the breaks.
 
My take on Toyota: they spent so much engineering on their hybrids that they missed the small things (i.e. accelerator recall).
 
So basically people with these vehicles sit around and wait for Toyota to find a fix?
 
Wow, that was a fucked up 911 call.

I think if this ever happened to me, I'd try to put the car in neutral, blow the engine, and slam on the breaks.

Sounded like an older guy. I'm an older guy, but I would have blown the motor before going through an intersection. Sounds like total panic.
 
Uh, simple question, but how do you blow an engine?

I have a Tundra and it is kind of freaky TBH.
 
Uh, simple question, but how do you blow an engine?

I have a Tundra and it is kind of freaky TBH.

If your rpm's are high and you shift into neutral it revs high and may blow the engine. I would turn the key off and shift to neutral.
 
Uh, simple question, but how do you blow an engine?

Just put your lips around the crankshaft and move your head up and down.

I have a Tundra and it is kind of freaky TBH.

Well, then maybe you'll need to try something more exotic than blowing it. What kind of freaky? Maybe it wants several guys in it at once? Lots of leather? Does it want you to go into the "outback"?

barfo
 
Please understand that Toyota killed this officer and his family.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/10/620000514/1

Also, these cars have actual shifters in the passenger compartment but they are almost all electronic now and many won't allow the car to go into neutral at high revs to save THE ENGINE from being killed. Tough shit for the passengers.

I will never buy a car with drive by wire bullshit.
 
8 models of toyotas are being recalled, pretty historic for the auto industry. fuck! that's nuts. Not only recalled, they STOPPED selling the models.



http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=7017760

Pretty fucking freaky....accelerator stuck, they all died. :sigh:

This issue was known a few months ago I believe...i wonder if they did the "Ford Pinto Cost/Benefit Analysis".

IIRC, the Audi 5000 had this same problem in the 1980s. It was possible for your foot to slip off the brake pedal and get wedged on the gas pedal. It was called "unintended acceleration", so people excoriated Audi for having a bad transmission, but in the end it was just wide feet. They widened the distance between the pedals, and voila, the problem was solved.
 
BTW, this is the Pinto shit I was referring to:

http://www.calbaptist.edu/dskubik/pinto.htm

The following figures are drawn from the 1968 memorandum written by and circulated amongst senior management
at the Ford Motor Company concerning cost-benefit analysis of retrofitting the Pinto before sending the car into the marketplace.



Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires



Expected Costs of producing the Pinto with fuel tank modifications:

* Expected unit sales: 11 million vehicles (includes utility vehicles built on same chassis)
* Modification costs per unit: $11.00
* Total Cost: $121 million
[= 11,000,000 vehicles x $11.00 per unit]



Expected Costs of producing the Pinto without fuel tank modifications:

* Expected accident results (assuming 2100 accidents):
180 burn deaths
180 serious burn injuries
2100 burned out vehicles
* Unit costs of accident results (assuming out of court settlements):
$200,000 per burn death*
$67,000 per serious injury
$700 per burned out vehicle
* Total Costs: $49.53 million
[= (180 deaths x $200k) + (180 injuries x $67k) + (2100 vehicles x $700 per vehicle)]

Thus, the costs for fixing the Pinto was $121 million, while settling cases where injuries occur was only $50 million. With such a difference in costs, Ford decided to manufacture and market the Pinto without fuel tank modifications.

What would you do? Why?

*By the way, the $200k and $67k figures for the average value of a lost or injured adult life is drawn from the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) calculation of the estimated costs to society of automobile accidents. It is not a low-ball figure fabricated by Ford. (For example, the $200k for death was calculated by adding estimated direct costs of $163k -- such as loss of future earnings, plus $37k of indirect costs -- such as hospital and insurance costs, legal and court costs, victim pain and suffering, funeral costs, and property damage.) This is the calculation typically used by the U.S. Federal government for performing cost-benefit analyses of highway construction projects (e.g. determining how safely we should build our roads and highways). Even today, such figures are commonly used by many state and local, as well as federal, government agencies to weigh costs of various tax-supported programs.
 
Just put your lips around the crankshaft and move your head up and down.



Well, then maybe you'll need to try something more exotic than blowing it. What kind of freaky? Maybe it wants several guys in it at once? Lots of leather? Does it want you to go into the "outback"?

barfo

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Just put your lips around the crankshaft and move your head up and down.



Well, then maybe you'll need to try something more exotic than blowing it. What kind of freaky? Maybe it wants several guys in it at once? Lots of leather? Does it want you to go into the "outback"?

barfo
Dude, you're amazing.
 
now the priuses are shit too. the hybrids are fucking up left and right...i think Ford hybrid has one too that is fucking up because of some brake feature that charges the car.

Figures, fucking hippie scum.
 
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